Oil Preference?

[Finn5033]

So I did my first oil change myself on my EcoD. Thought Shell Rotella T6 was the way to go at the time. Not long after I did it I come on this forum and see that it is no longer approved by Fiat Chrysler. I’ve been doing so much reading on this I’m just confused now. From what I gather there is nothing wrong with the Rotella and there is no way it should cause any harm to our engines right?

 

[SD Rebel]

So I did my first oil change myself on my EcoD. Thought Shell Rotella T6 was the way to go at the time. Not long after I did it I come on this forum and see that it is no longer approved by Fiat Chrysler. I’ve been doing so much reading on this I’m just confused now. From what I gather there is nothing wrong with the Rotella and there is no way it should cause any harm to our engines right?

No approval on the bottle doesn't mean it won't meet requirements, it just wasn't certified against it. I have been using Shell Rotella T6 on my motorcycles long before it was finally JASO certified to be used on motorcycles.

However, it does leave a loophole they can use against you should you have engine issues. I highly recommend you buy some FCA certified oil as proof on a receipt should they want proof you did an oil change on time, assuming you did this recently enough? This way they cannot get you on a technicality. Not like they will analyze the oil you have in there, but they could dispute it on a receipt you didn't use approved oils.

If it worries you enough, change it again with that oil, its only a few bucks in the scheme of things.

 

[Finn5033]

No approval on the bottle doesn't mean it won't meet requirements, it just was certified against it. I have been using Shell Rotella T6 on my motorcycles long before it was finally JASO certified.

I guess what I should say, is if you have an engine issue and they find out you’ve been using Rotella T6 are you screwed? I’ve seen people on here say that their dealers are using it

 

[silver64]

What many of us have learned here is that in most cases the reason a particular oil isn't approved is that they did not go through the official certification process with FCA. As long as the oil you are using meets or exceeds the manufacturers recommended parameters you will be ok to use what you want. The FCA stamp on an oil is apparently a costly process for the oil makers and not all of them want to go through it. The cost outweighs the benefits.

 

[SD Rebel]

I guess what I should say, is if you have an engine issue and they find out you’ve been using Rotella T6 are you screwed? I’ve seen people on here say that their dealers are using it

Sorry, I edited my comment, I cover that there.....

"However, it does leave a loophole they can use against you should you have engine issues. I highly recommend you buy some FCA certified oil as proof on a receipt should they want proof you did an oil change on time, assuming you did this recently enough? This way they cannot get you on a technicality. Not like they will analyze the oil you have in there, but they could dispute it on a receipt you didn't use approved oils.

If it worries you enough, change it again with that oil, its only a few bucks in the scheme of things."

 

[Finn5033]

Sorry, I edited my comment, I cover that there.....

"However, it does leave a loophole they can use against you should you have engine issues. I highly recommend you buy some FCA certified oil as proof on a receipt should they want proof you did an oil change on time, assuming you did this recently enough? This way they cannot get you on a technicality. Not like they will analyze the oil you have in there, but they could dispute it on a receipt you didn't use approved oils.

If it worries you enough, change it again with that oil, its only a few bucks in the scheme of things."

Yeah I saw that afterwards thanks. It’s frustrating, cause I’ve also found that T6 used to be approved by Chrysler. What a bunch of nonsense

 

[PowerJrod]

I guess what I should say, is if you have an engine issue and they find out you’ve been using Rotella T6 are you screwed? I’ve seen people on here say that their dealers are using it

If it meets requirements you'll have nothing to worry about...hell..even our Hemi's don't even recommend full synthetic per the manual but I use it anyway of course.

 

[arptsprt]

If it meets requirements you'll have nothing to worry about...hell..even our Hemi's don't even recommend full synthetic per the manual but I use it anyway of course.

At 5000 miles, I’m going to switch over to synthetic. What are you using? My dealership confirmed they’re using Pennzoil synthetic 5w-20 and they have a three synthetic oil changes, filter and tire rotation special for $159 for the 5.7.


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[PowerJrod]

At 5000 miles, I’m going to switch over to synthetic. What are you using? My dealership confirmed they’re using Pennzoil synthetic 5w-20 and they have a three synthetic oil changes, filter and tire rotation special for $159 for the 5.7.


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Check the Mopar website...they've been having way better deals than that recently.
But I used Pennzoil Platinum last change, now I'm using Mobil 1 to kind of compare the two. When I drained the Pennzoil; I was missing 1 quart. I want to see if the same thing happens with Mobil 1.

 

[UnloosedChewtoy]

Stumbled upon this today, had no idea they sold an oil under their name. Any idea who actually makes it for them?

https://smile.amazon.com/Motor-Oil-Synthetic-Premium-Protection/dp/B08MVG9VF2/

 

[PowerJrod]

Stumbled upon this today, had no idea they sold an oil under their name. Any idea who actually makes it for them?

https://smile.amazon.com/Motor-Oil-Synthetic-Premium-Protection/dp/B08MVG9VF2/

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Interesting, must be very new. Isn't SynthaMax made by Valvoline..?

 

[Nails]

I’ve seen kn stuff out too.

 

[securityguy]

Stumbled upon this today, had no idea they sold an oil under their name. Any idea who actually makes it for them?

https://smile.amazon.com/Motor-Oil-Synthetic-Premium-Protection/dp/B08MVG9VF2/

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Who ever it is, I'm sure it's way over priced. All I ever use is Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra based on sales going on at Walmart or Amazon. $22 for a 5 qt. jug...can't complain about that!

 

[PowerJrod]

Who ever it is, I'm sure it's way over priced. All I ever use is Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra based on sales going on at Walmart or Amazon. $22 for a 5 qt. jug...can't complain about that!

Agreed.
The K&N stuff is like $10 per quart.

 

[Bwsteg]

I have a 2020 with 5k miles. Dealer says oil changes should be done every 10k miles. I prefer to just have the oil changes done on my own. Is the pennzoil ultra platinum the preferred choice (if price isn’t an issue)? Also what filter should I purchase, mopar or is the m1/k&n filter ok?

last thing, how many quarts does the ram take? Thanks in advance

 

[securityguy]

I have a 2020 with 5k miles. Dealer says oil changes should be done every 10k miles. I prefer to just have the oil changes done on my own. Is the pennzoil ultra platinum the preferred choice (if price isn’t an issue)? Also what filter should I purchase, mopar or is the m1/k&n filter ok?

last thing, how many quarts does the ram take? Thanks in advance

MOPAR is just fine. Mobil 1 filters an be found at Walmart for $10 and I use WIX-XP I buy off Rockauto for $7/each in a pack of 4. The 5.7L takes 7 quarts.

 

[Bwsteg]

MOPAR is just fine. Mobil 1 filters an be found at Walmart for $10 and I use WIX-XP I buy off Rockauto for $7/each in a pack of 4. The 5.7L takes 7 quarts.

Thank you for reply. What would you recommend as far as oil change interval goes? Dealer says 10k. Is doing it every 5k overkill? Or perhaps 7500

 

[securityguy]

Thank you for reply. What would you recommend as far as oil change interval goes? Dealer says 10k. Is doing it every 5k overkill? Or perhaps 7500

I always do 5K...for me, 10K is too long to wait. Oil changes are cheap!

 

[SD Rebel]

Thank you for reply. What would you recommend as far as oil change interval goes? Dealer says 10k. Is doing it every 5k overkill? Or perhaps 7500

You can follow the monitor, it isn't simply count down, it varies depending on how you drive. If you do mostly highway with low idling, it will go to 10,000 miles. If you drive in severe conditions, lots of idling, it will go as low as 3,500 miles..

As Securityguy mentions, I prefer to do it at 5,000 miles.

 

[jdefoe0424]

Thank you for reply. What would you recommend as far as oil change interval goes? Dealer says 10k. Is doing it every 5k overkill? Or perhaps 7500

So far mine has gotten to about 7500 using the "monitor".
My next change I will be using AMSOIL XL and will be going to 10k, take a sample and see how it looks. If all is good then I will go all the way to 12k which the oil is rated for.

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