That's a pretty good deal.To all my Canadian forum friends.
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w40 is on sale at Canadian Tire for 50% off. 5L for $29.99
Cheers!
That's a pretty good deal.To all my Canadian forum friends.
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w40 is on sale at Canadian Tire for 50% off. 5L for $29.99
Cheers!
I ordered the Valvoline and they sent me the "new euro version", they don't make the MST any longer. The problem is the euro doesn't say it meets the ms-12991 requirement. So I guess I'll be sending it back. Valvoline wasn't any help when I called them.Here is a thread on a Fiat forum, where they list the Valvoline 5W-40 Euro (ms-12991) as a low-SAPS formulation: https://www.124spider.org/threads/oil-filter-master-thread.15041/. I've read other sites claiming it is a low-to-mid SAPS formulation. In any event, it's probably better for the DPF than the Penzoil formulation. Maybe this is the best choice to both comply with the Chrysler standard and protect the DPF. WXman posted a link to Walmart for the oil, here is a link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZCR1LNG
Edited to add: This Valvoline oil complies with the BMW LL-04 specification. Here is a lay description of the spec:
Note that Penzoil Platinum Euro does not comply with the LL-04 spec. It is LL-01.
Edit 2: Found the Valvoline spec sheet (attached) on their Australian web site. Confirms it's low SAPS.
Hi all,
I do apologize for the delay in my response, as I was awaiting a follow up from our engineering team on this matter. I have been advised that diesel oils like Shell Rotella should not be used as they will cause turbo coking and associated concerns as this engine has lower engine pressure than previous generation engines. Please know that the Pennzoil Platinum Euro has moved to SN+ with new formulation and it has not been validated. There are plans to test the Pennzoil Platinum Euro SP grade oil as soon as the virus situation progresses. Please do not hesitate to reach back out down the road, as I am happy to provide any additional updates I can.
Mark
RamCares
No kidding. I'm having a difficult time finding oil that I can use. What up Ram@RamCares Have any updates on this new Pennzoil formula and validation?
Does anybody know what the factory fill oil is? Do they really use Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 at the factory?
That's what I was wondering. That's a pretty significant piece of information and would like to know if they're using the "right" oil.
I got confirmation this morning that the Valvoline European Vehicle 5W40 does meet MS-12991 and is safe to use in Gen 3 EcoDiesel. They are working to add the FCA cert. to the product information sheets for that oil at this time.
Apparently this oil is replacing the Valvoline MST 5W40 that was sold up until recently.
They couldn't provide me with any documentation when I called. If you get some let me know.
Same thing happened to me. They are using the same product number, VV966, for both full-SAPS and mid-SAPS products, apparently. It's very confusing.I ordered the Valvoline and they sent me the "new euro version", they don't make the MST any longer. The problem is the euro doesn't say it meets the ms-12991 requirement. So I guess I'll be sending it back. Valvoline wasn't any help when I called them.
...suggests that the MS-12991 is a recommendation but API SN is a requirement.We recommend you use 5W-40 synthetic engine oil such as Mopar or Pennzoil Platinum Euro that meets FCA Material Standard MS-12991 and the API SN engine oil category is required
Someone in another forum pointed out that the way the oil recommendation in the owner's manual is phrased...
...suggests that the MS-12991 is a recommendation but API SN is a requirement.
You could buy the Amazon oil for $35, the filter online for $44, and an oil analysis for $40. That's only $119, and you not only have the data on oil quality to cover your butt in the event of a warranty claim, but you might also get an early warning of serious engine issues.If that were the case, then we could simply use Amazon Basics Full Synthetic Euro 5W40, which sells for roughly $4 per quart. That would cover an oil change for $35 (for the oil alone).
So I had the dealer (Lithia Dodge in Portland) perform the first service as I had a radio SW update recall and a tailgate question also. Made an appt 2 weeks in advance for my ecodiesel. Got there and was told an hour. 4 hours later, I'm still waiting as they had run out of oil filters. Anyway, ignoring all that, the invoice shows 9 qts of 68357422AA 5W40 Turbo Diesel oil. Vowing to revert back to doing all my own services and avoid the bs at the dealer, I wanted to stock up for the next one and stumbled upon this thread when figuring out what to buy. When I Google that PN, I get a discontinued product and can't find the specs for it. Anyone know what they put in and whether I should do anything about it before the next service interval?