lower end , crankshaft bearingsWhat failed?
If you used the correct oil, what was the cause of the bearing failures?lower end , crankshaft bearings
engeneering failIf you used the correct oil, what was the cause of the bearing failures?
Wow. Glad to hear they got this corrected. Good dealer.So the dealer contacted me today, said they heard from FCA and they’ll be swapping my oil out for the MOPAR MS-12991. I knew my dealer would make it right, I just wonder how many other Ecodiesels are out there with Rotella because neither the owner nor the dealer has a clue that the oil specs changed.
Yes, they are! I took it in this morning and they drained the T6 and put in Pennzoil Platinum Euro. They said trying to get a straight answer from FCA on what oil to use was extremely painful and that they had to talk with multiple people. Not sure why FCA had such a hard time when it was right there in the newest version of the owner’s manual.Wow. Glad to hear they got this corrected. Good dealer.
Yes, they are! I took it in this morning and they drained the T6 and put in Pennzoil Platinum Euro. They said trying to get a straight answer from FCA on what oil to use was extremely painful and that they had to talk with multiple people. Not sure why FCA had such a hard time when it was right there in the newest version of the owner’s manual.
I saw on another forum that Amsoil is recommending a couple different oils. Started with the european oil, but now recommending a heavy duty diesel oil.
I'm getting close to needing my first oil change. Just not sure which way I want to go and who to listen to.
That would nice to know what the difference is actually.You’d have thought this would have been figured out before the first production gen 3 rolled off the assembly line with the aftermarket catching up later. But were all guinea pigs at the moment.
It would be interested to see what the difference is in the testing for ms-10902 vs ms-12991 certifications.
Its the SAP. One is mid SAPS, one is High SAPS.That would nice to know what the difference is actually.
Rotella T6 is a better oil in practically every way than the oil they are recomending.
Their recomended oil is a High SAPS ( Sulphated Ash, Phosphate Sulphur ) oil that will ruin a DPF and emission equipment. Rotella isn't, it's low ash. Cleaning a turbo is a hell of a lot easier than a DPF replacement.
Special BMW approval for fully synthetic long-life oil. Viscosities are SAE 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30 and 5W-40. Usually required for BMWs equipped with a diesel particulate filter (DPF). Can also be used where a BMW Longlife-98 or BMW Longlife-01 oil is recommended.
mrfreon said:
I was informed the owners manual that came with my 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel specified the incorrect oil type. Where can I find (in writing) the correct oil type to use so I do not void my warranty? Another member on this forum mentioned Pennzoil Platinum Euro is the correct oil, but I would prefer to see an official document from FCA. Thank you!
LL 01 much better than LL 04 , more thick , more lubrication , less ecology sh*t .Here is a thread on a Fiat forum, where they list the Valvoline 5W-40 Euro (ms-12991) as a low-SAPS formulation: https://www.124spider.org/threads/oil-filter-master-thread.15041/. I've read other sites claiming it is a low-to-mid SAPS formulation. In any event, it's probably better for the DPF than the Penzoil formulation. Maybe this is the best choice to both comply with the Chrysler standard and protect the DPF. WXman posted a link to Walmart for the oil, here is a link to Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZCR1LNG
Edited to add: This Valvoline oil complies with the BMW LL-04 specification. Here is a lay description of the spec:
Note that Penzoil Platinum Euro does not comply with the LL-04 spec.t is LL-01.
Edit 2: Found the Valvoline spec sheet (attached) on their Australian web site. Confirms it's low SAPS.
in Canada 5L 20$ usIt's on sale this month..... https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/PZR...MI84f--cmH6gIVDg8YCh3y8g7sEAQYASABEgIucvD_BwE