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Will not be getting a 12 inch on anything I am looking at.

I got a 21 Built to Serve Edition with a couple of the reasons being the LED light package a must for me after two with the Halogens and me living in MT deer central... I don't need after market spots for the first time. Another reason was that they had the cosmetic black out like package as...

TMI....TMI

Privacy? We don't need no steeenking privacy... And in this day and age, I've pretty much given up on it. Ain't happening...

I just linked the first one that popped up. might be better sources. https://www.moparonlineparts.com/part-make/ram-bed-step.html

It sucks everywhere... I distinctly have noted the change and not a good one here in MT when they change over in winter and the opposite in summer.

Oh, I'm not arguing with you. I like the step overall and once when having to get in and out to load it like a chinese puzzle carrying weight, I loved being able to do two short steps getting in so, I'm certainly not trashing it. And, as you note in certain circumstances I don't have, it can be...

I have the BTS and the seats are noticably tough compared to my 15 and those were pretty good even after six years and it's tough to tell the difference between leather and the vinyl. We have the leather in a Cherokee. Oh, the BTS seats look good also...

For those of you getting Ramboxes and MFT. The Ramboxes and MFT were on the built to serve edition ON THE LOT that check all my other boxes. I was ambivalent at best when I purchased. NOW, I will ALWAYS get them if I get another RAM or more probably WHEN.

What you said AND, city driving always sucks. Getting 3 tons of steel up to speed and then doing it all over again every minute or three isn't going to facilitate mileage. I get my best mileage on a couple hundred mile trip at speed in on the highway and have hit between 22 and 23 with a 5.7 and...

As noted, the 3.92 ups the overall towing capacity by quite a lot over the 3.21, and is the biggest factor but every bell and whistle that is on there takes away from your capacity. Ramboxes, barn door, panoramic sunroof, keep adding stuff and down goes your rating AND your payload the more...

Yep, the American Society of Automotive Engineers standard for towing does NOT calculate anything after market into the determination of towing numbers. And gas is 6 lbs per gallon and the metal (I assume) in an "aux" tank.

Yeah, I'd be looking for on the lot trucks on like cargurus and this was a surprisingly consistent issue. Towing tech packages, mirrors...the works...and 3.21 rear end and 23 or 26 gallon tanks. WTF??? I actually found a dealer who ordered trucks to tow but he was too far away... So, Peterson...

OK, my turn to spit coffee...

Yeah, but you drive downhill with a tailwind both ways... My 2015 was right at 13 for mixed daily driving maybe a bit more with summer gas. That was with the 3.92, Half my drive home/town is about six miles on an 80 mph highway (Montana) and the rest stop and go in town. So, I do 25 miles maybe...

Me neither...Oh well, there goes the quality...eventually once the bean counters get hold of the books.

I think that on many lots whomever orders trucks does NOT tow and you end up with the 3.21's and small gas tanks with the tow package on them. They probably think that if you order the tow package it has everything you need, not realizing that the 3.21 rear end sucks for towing and the 8 miles...

ETorque with its very limited impact on mileage is called a mild hybrid. It is REALLY mild but it also another bit of high tech stuff that in my opinion is not worth the cost in relation to what you get. And what's it gonna do in five years? Multi-function tailgate is NOT something I...

Actually, you do lose payload, BUT not off what your payload says on your label. Fuel is calculated to figure what your payload rating is. Some people try to calculate for towing and add a full fuel load to their calculations. You do NOT need to worry about fuel anymore since the companies...