Anyone getting a 2025 with the I6 Hurricane?

[HSKR R/T]

Apples to oranges, I thought were comparing Hemi to a Hurricane.

Didn't see the segue where you went from talking MB and BMW to Hurricane. Probably because there wasn't one, so hard to know.

As far as Hemi vs Hurricane and making modifications. Once you stop comparing stock to stock, it's also an apple to oranges comparison. And once aftermarket support for tuning the Hurricane happened the Hemi will still be second fiddle when it comes to performance. Just putting a supercharger on the Hemi and nothing else, it will still be slower than the HO Hurricane.

 

[HSKR R/T]

If we were, shouldn't we be throwing a turbo or supercharger on the 5.7 so the playing field is even and then see which preforms better with power and mpg?

No, because modifying away from stock isn't apples to apples.

 

[HSKR R/T]

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[SpeedyV]

For what it’s worth, I’m fairly certain very few HEMI drivers “need” its “weak” 395 HP very often…if ever. Some of us remember when most trucks had V8s in the 225-250 HP range, and somehow we all got by!

 

[PetePA]

Ohhhhh I found an article for my buddy @Darksteel165 !!!

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Thanks to the four-banger's relatively simple and small design, some 4-cylinder cars have been known to last quite a long time.

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These new engines are going to last longer than the Hemi!

 

[Darksteel165]

No, because modifying away from stock isn't apples to apples.

I wasn't saying to modify stock.
I'm saying Ram could release the engine as a stock.
Same thing as the I6 except with a v8 and then can compare it to the Hurricant.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I wasn't saying to modify stock.
I'm saying Ram could release the engine as a stock.
Same thing as the I6 except with a v8 and then can compare it to the Hurricant.

That doesn't help the emissions or fuel economy issues the Hemi has.

And they already have, it's called the TRX

 

[Darksteel165]

That doesn't help the emissions or fuel economy issues the Hemi has.

And they already have, it's called the TRX

Never does the hurricane, and the TRX's base price was as much as a fully loaded Limited and designed for offroad not street play.

 

[RVTRKN]

Didn't see the segue where you went from talking MB and BMW to Hurricane. Probably because there wasn't one, so hard to know.

As far as Hemi vs Hurricane and making modifications. Once you stop comparing stock to stock, it's also an apple to oranges comparison. And once aftermarket support for tuning the Hurricane happened the Hemi will still be second fiddle when it comes to performance. Just putting a supercharger on the Hemi and nothing else, it will still be slower than the HO Hurricane.

No, because modifying away from stock isn't apples to apples.

No naturally aspirated 3.0 I6 will beat the Hemi, so Ram upgraded the I6 with twin turbos and overhead cams to beat the Hemi, they had to up the HP over the Hemi to get buyers to like it. So if you put a Paxton Supercharger to have the same boost as the 3.0, the Hemi will walk all over it. Because it has stock turbo's, it makes it a higher performance engine.

For what it’s worth, I’m fairly certain very few HEMI drivers “need” its “weak” 395 HP very often…if ever. Some of us remember when most trucks had V8s in the 225-250 HP range, and somehow we all got by!

I really miss my 360 Magnum, and my EFI 318

 

[HSKR R/T]

No naturally aspirated 3.0 I6 will beat the Hemi, so Ram upgraded the I6 with twin turbos and overhead cams to beat the Hemi, they had to up the HP over the Hemi to get buyers to like it. So if you put a Paxton Supercharger to have the same boost as the 3.0, the Hemi will walk all over it. Because it has stock turbo's, it makes it a higher performance engine.

The Hurricane was designed to be a turbo engine. And once again, say if I do X to my car, it will be the Y car that is stock, is a Jr high level argument. And to build the 5.7 enough to handle the boost levels the Hurricane runs would be well over $10k, plus the cost of the Paxton.

I really miss my 360 Magnum, and my EFI 318

I don't miss mine, I still have it. It's getting rebuilt at this time into a 410 stroker.

 

[RVTRKN]

Didn't see the segue where you went from talking MB and BMW to Hurricane. Probably because there wasn't one, so hard to know.

I was comparing the complicated overhead cams with the Euro stuff vrs the 3.0 I6, as far as the Hurricane are concerned. My intention was never to compare Euro engines to the Hemi. The Stock performance Euro engines are stronger than ours, but working on them will blow your budget.

 

[PetePA]

The Hurricane was designed to be a turbo engine. And once again, say if I do X to my car, it will be the Y car that is stock, is a Jr high level argument. And to build the 5.7 enough to handle the boost levels the Hurricane runs would be well over $10k, plus the cost of the Paxton.


I don't miss mine, I still have it. It's getting rebuilt at this time into a 410 stroker.
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What is the engine part called in the attachment?

 

[HSKR R/T]

What is the engine part called in the attachment?

That's the can of lube for the assembler.

 

[Dewey]

For what it’s worth, I’m fairly certain very few HEMI drivers “need” its “weak” 395 HP very often…if ever. Some of us remember when most trucks had V8s in the 225-250 HP range, and somehow we all got by!

Yup. Not to mention many also had lifts and big tires as well. I had a 360 in 1999 that was pretty pathetic compared to the current Hemi. Funny thing is it got better gas mileage than now.

 

[Idahoktm]

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Yeah, but we know what BMW stands for now.

 

[SpeedyV]

I really miss my 360 Magnum, and my EFI 318

I was thinking more along the lines of the various Chevy small blocks I had over the years…not so much the 5.0, which wasn’t so special, but the 5.7, 6.0, and 8.1 I had in various vehicles were all solid in the right application.

 

[RVTRKN]

Yeah, but we know what BMW stands for now.

Well let me further educate you then, BMW was not a car manufacturer until after the end of WWII. BMW manufactured aircraft engines, which were also used in the military in the war. Maybe its the reason the rings, in their engines never last as long as the competitors. In aircraft engines, there are required mandatory rebuilds for safety, which IMHO is probably the reason.



Their logo represents a propeller blade spinning.

 

[RVTRKN]

I was thinking more along the lines of the various Chevy small blocks I had over the years…not so much the 5.0, which wasn’t so special, but the 5.7, 6.0, and 8.1 I had in various vehicles were all solid in the right application.

Only the early GM motors in the 60's and 70's are the ones I like, my favorite is the 327, but I've always been a Mopar guy. It was a sad day, the day the 318 hit the scrap heap, I hope the 5.7 Hemi stays alive.

 

[Scram1500]

What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?

Pricks are on the outside of a porcupine

 

[Idahoktm]

Well let me further educate you then, BMW was not a car manufacturer until after the end of WWII. BMW manufactured aircraft engines, which were also used in the military in the war. Maybe its the reason the rings, in their engines never last as long as the competitors. In aircraft engines, there are required mandatory rebuilds for safety, which IMHO is probably the reason.

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Their logo represents a propeller blade spinning.

This thread just keeps getting better. Now we're getting incorrect information on aircraft engine TBO's.