Bigtone
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Correct, but I was talking bigger street bikes.You can definitely haul motorcycles in a 5'7" bed. You can't close the tailgate, but I don't care about that.
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Correct, but I was talking bigger street bikes.You can definitely haul motorcycles in a 5'7" bed. You can't close the tailgate, but I don't care about that.
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I don't see a problem there either. I've seen plenty of street bikes in the back of 5'7" beds, unless you're talking about a bike with an abnormally long wheelbase.Correct, but I was talking bigger street bikes.
Sorry to veer off-topic a little here, but why do we need to have a reason for driving a truck? Luckily for me we still live in a free (for now at least) country. Where we're free to choose what we want to drive. There are no rules that say you can't have a truck unless you want or need to do "truck things". My lady and I both drive trucks. We each have our own Ram 1500 Limited. Neither of us tows anything. And we almost never need to haul anything. I don't go off-road anymore, although I like to have the capability to do so. My reasons for driving what I drive are my own. I can afford to drive pretty much what I want, and what I want to drive at this point in my life is a truck.
Agreed, there are two sides (at least) to every discussion. I don't mind discussing why I choose to drive a truck. I just don't appreciate the implied judgement from some people (not point fingers at anyone), for not using a truck as a truck. Or people feeling the need to justify why they drive a truck to a forum full of complete strangers LOL. I think it's great that so many people choose to drive trucks, no matter why they chose to.Playing devil's advocate here but, there is something to be said for the excesses of western culture. There's people out there that would be happy for a decent pair of shoes, never mind anything with a motor, never mind a $70K truck that is being used for things that pretty much anything with a motor could do, and spend less resources (i.e. gas) while doing it.
Could maybe think of it like ordering a 40 oz porterhouse steak that you know you're gonna eat less than half of, but because of the cut of the meat, it tastes better. Rest goes in the garbage. That's wasteful, and the idea of taking something perfectly useable (i.e. the bed and/or towing capability of the truck) and rendering it useless is counterintuitive; it's more of an emotional standpoint to purposefully render something useless that has a use.
Could you get around in a Toyota Celica and take the $40-$50k you didn't spend on the truck, and buy a couple of cars for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to get a vehicle at all? Probably. Would that be an objectively better and more morally "correct" thing to do? Obviously I don't believe that, or that's what I would have done.
So don't get me wrong, I pretty much agree with you, this is our life, our time, our hard work, our money, our resources, our choice to do with these things what we will. But I can see the other side of the argument too.
I agree with everything you said except the dishwasher lol those things save you a LOT of time over the course of years of just standing there scrubbing (unless you like doing that for some reason), and time is the one thing you can never get more of.since this is America, I can decide to live in excess or live within my needs and I didn't need a truck until recently and even then, it's my my primary vehicle because it doesn't have to be. People can do what they want and I choose to own, drive, wear, do what I need to do and little more. I certainly (in my head) **** on people for driving big rigs without anything being pulled behind it. I'm in that camp now but at least once a month, I'm using it as designed. every month, there's 1-2 bikes in the back so I'm using it for how it was intended. but again, this being America, I don't tell someone or write laws that would prohibit someone without a commercial need to own a truck. It's none of my business. I do the same for guy who by dirt bikes and don't ride them off road so I think it is necessary for you to have two trucks but just like it's a waste for me to have 60" of screen real estate for my computer monitors for work. It's excessive but I like it. We all make decisions like that every single day. We all don't need dishwashers but most of us have them.
100% man, I'm with you. Especially about the justification part like, if you're that insecure about it, probably means your reason for getting a truck is something actually completely stupid (you want to look tough, fit in with other truck dudes, intimidate people on the road, etc.). You know, the vastly overblown but still occasionally true stereotype of overcompensation .Agreed, there are two sides (at least) to every discussion. I don't mind discussing why I choose to drive a truck. I just don't appreciate the implied judgement from some people (not point fingers at anyone), for not using a truck as a truck. Or people feeling the need to justify why they drive a truck to a forum full of complete strangers LOL. I think it's great that so many people choose to drive trucks, no matter why they chose to.
Playing devil's advocate here but, there is something to be said for the excesses of western culture. There's people out there that would be happy for a decent pair of shoes, never mind anything with a motor, never mind a $70K truck that is being used for things that pretty much anything with a motor could do, and spend less resources (i.e. gas) while doing it.
Could maybe think of it like ordering a 40 oz porterhouse steak that you know you're gonna eat less than half of, but because of the cut of the meat, it tastes better. Rest goes in the garbage. That's wasteful, and the idea of taking something perfectly useable (i.e. the bed and/or towing capability of the truck) and rendering it useless is counterintuitive; it's more of an emotional standpoint to purposefully render something useless that has a use.
Could you get around in a Toyota Celica and take the $40-$50k you didn't spend on the truck, and buy a couple of cars for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to get a vehicle at all? Probably. Would that be an objectively better and more morally "correct" thing to do? Obviously I don't believe that, or that's what I would have done.
So don't get me wrong, I pretty much agree with you, this is our life, our time, our hard work, our money, our resources, our choice to do with these things what we will. But I can see the other side of the argument too.
No not at all. But, you could theoretically buy Y vehicle for less than half the price of X vehicle, and use the money you didn't spend to buy two other people Z vehicles (who are currently taking the bus to work) cause that would be a very nice and generous thing to do.Wait so we're not supposed to buy X vehicle because someone else can't afford X vehicle?
Dude has an entire playground in his bed5'7 beds...ugh
People not using trucks for work...ugh
6'4 bed looking ungainly...ugh
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Sorry. You guys were making me chuckle with the banter.
Carry on.
The hammer drop.Hmmm.....want or need....Boolean logic applies in my decision making here: 1 or 0 = 1
Thus it really doesn't matter what I want or need.....I am getting a truck. Logic dictates it
100% man, I'm with you. Especially about the justification part like, if you're that insecure about it, probably means your reason for getting a truck is something actually completely stupid (you want to look tough, fit in with other truck dudes, intimidate people on the road, etc.). You know, the vastly overblown but still occasionally true stereotype of overcompensation .
Bro, stop posting pics of me…
I don't see a problem there either. I've seen plenty of street bikes in the back of 5'7" beds, unless you're talking about a bike with an abnormally long wheelbase.
Any Harley Touring bike won't fit in a 5'7" bed without the rear wheel riding on the tailgate. I take my bike (Street Gilde) to Arizona in the winter. Here's a picture of it in my F150 with 6 1/2 foot bed. Haven't taken it with my 1500 yet thanks to the Pandemic. That's the reason I got the 6" 4" bed.I don't see a problem there either. I've seen plenty of street bikes in the back of 5'7" beds, unless you're talking about a bike with an abnormally long wheelbase.