Thoughts on Cold Air Intakes?

[Rick3478]

I actually read another thread on here somewhere. Somebody installed the Mopar CIA like they put on the GTs, and said he picked up 1 1/2 mpg. It had a low restriction filter, and like one commenter on that thread said " they don't put it on the GTs for nothing.

Maybe he installed it in the Spring and got improvement as warmer weather thinned oil and air, softened grease and rubber, and increased tire pressure.

 

[Darksteel165]

Maybe he installed it in the Spring and got improvement as warmer weather thinned oil and air, softened grease and rubber, and increased tire pressure.

More likely he disconnected the battery like it says on the install instructions and the truck just relearned his driving style. Disconnecting your battery gives you more performance then an aftermarket CAI on these trucks as stock as they are.

 

[mikeru82]

I actually read another thread on here somewhere. Somebody installed the Mopar CIA like they put on the GTs, and said he picked up 1 1/2 mpg. It had a low restriction filter, and like one commenter on that thread said " they don't put it on the GTs for nothing.

Don't believe everything you read in forums. I installed that intake (Mopar Ram Airflow) and saw no noticeable increase in either mpg or performance. If he did actually see any increase in mpg it was for the reason @Darksteel165 talked about. Which wouldn't have lasted for long.

 

[Switch22]

Made my own. Plus I had too anyway when I swapped to the 6.4 intake manifold View attachment 150926

Looks awesome! Too bad it doesn't come from the factory like that.

 

[jmt8706]

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[Choate]

They look better. If you’re thinking about it and want it just do it but yeah it won’t make much if any of a difference. I’ve got one one my cobra but it is a much larger diameter tube and has 20lbs of boost so it needs to suck a lot harder (insert girlfriend joke here)

 

[HSKR R/T]

I actually read another thread on here somewhere. Somebody installed the Mopar CIA like they put on the GTs, and said he picked up 1 1/2 mpg. It had a low restriction filter, and like one commenter on that thread said " they don't put it on the GTs for nothing.

They put it on the GTs to make it different so people will buy it. They don't market the GTs as having any additional performance over the regular Hemi 1500s. If there was, you can be damn sure they would be using that in the advertising

 

[Ohsobad]

I found these videos that I found interesting and appear to be pretty honest. You can FF through them and get to the good parts.
Hope these help to possible answer some questions.

 

[6of36]

I found these videos that I found interesting and appear to be pretty honest. You can FF through them and get to the good parts.
Hope these help to possible answer some questions.

There we go, dyno proof they do work. I don't really care about the sound, or HP, but if it does increase HP, it's working more efficiently, meaning more MPG. Thank you for finding and posting.

 

[BackCountryinNJ]

I found these videos that I found interesting and appear to be pretty honest. You can FF through them and get to the good parts.
Hope these help to possible answer some questions.

Thanks for sharing. I'm installing my Ram Airflow this weekend...hoping for some mid-range gains in power. If nothing else, it will look cool. That's worth something too.

 

[crusher]

There we go, dyno proof they do work. I don't really care about the sound, or HP, but if it does increase HP, it's working more efficiently, meaning more MPG. Thank you for finding and posting.

well more hp dosent always means more mpg... add a supercharger, everyone knows you will get more hp, and its more efficient but even if you baby it, it will take more gas, therefore losing mpg.

for cai, there is no proof you can gain or lose mpg, so still not sure you could actually gain mpg, for sure it will be minimal if any gain,

 

[crusher]

Thanks for sharing. I'm installing my Ram Airflow this weekend...hoping for some mid-range gains in power. If nothing else, it will look cool. That's worth something too.

for me just the look is worth it

 

[BackCountryinNJ]

for me just the look is worth it

Me too.

 

[6of36]

well more hp dosent always means more mpg... add a supercharger, everyone knows you will get more hp, and its more efficient but even if you baby it, it will take more gas, therefore losing mpg.

for cai, there is no proof you can gain or lose mpg, so still not sure you could actually gain mpg, for sure it will be minimal if any gain,

It may be minimal, but if I gain 2% it still helps. Freer breathing sure isn't going to hurt.

 

[Choate]

This argument has been going on since I can remember on the 05 GTO forums. Some say they’re hot air intakes and the box keeps the heat away.

 

[Darksteel165]

This argument has been going on since I can remember on the 05 GTO forums. Some say they’re hot air intakes and the box keeps the heat away.

Much longer then 05 lol.

 

[HSKR R/T]

This argument has been going on since I can remember on the 05 GTO forums. Some say they’re hot air intakes and the box keeps the heat away.

Nice thing about Vararam and RamAir is they are sealed and pull in air from in front of radiator, so no under hood air

 

[mikeru82]

I found these videos that I found interesting and appear to be pretty honest. You can FF through them and get to the good parts.
Hope these help to possible answer some questions.

Color me skeptical. How accurate can those dyno runs really be if they have to manipulate the throttle to keep the trans from down shifting during the test? I'd have been able to feel a 10hp and 10lb/ft torque increase when I installed the Ram AirFlow intake, and it just wasn't there.

I also have a problem with people who say foot/pounds instead of the correct pound/feet when discussing engine torque. But that's another story LOL

 

[HSKR R/T]

Color me skeptical. How accurate can those dyno runs really be if they have to manipulate the throttle to keep the trans from down shifting during the test? I'd have been able to feel a 10hp and 10lb/ft torque increase when I installed the Ram AirFlow intake, and it just wasn't there.

I also have a problem with people who say foot/pounds instead of the correct pound/feet when discussing engine torque. But that's another story LOL

You'd have to have a pretty sensitive butt dyno to feel 10hp in the mid range

 

[Darksteel165]

Color me skeptical. How accurate can those dyno runs really be if they have to manipulate the throttle to keep the trans from down shifting during the test? I'd have been able to feel a 10hp and 10lb/ft torque increase when I installed the Ram AirFlow intake, and it just wasn't there.

I also have a problem with people who say foot/pounds instead of the correct pound/feet when discussing engine torque. But that's another story LOL

He also admins he doesn't get a tune. You can't just increase airflow by a boat load and not adjust the engine to do anything with that air.

You'd have to have a pretty sensitive butt dyno to feel 10hp in the mid range

I mean that theoretical 10hp is an entire 2% increase over stock LOL.
Not sure what you can notice a 2% change on.

I'm still going with removing your battery cable (which is part of the install of the intake) will make a bigger difference.

I did notice an improvement with my last updated tune after my Vararam intake. More of a difference then getting the tune on the stock truck with just the exhaust changed. But to be clear not really a difference the matters, just a smoothness is the engine at wot during hard shifts, not going to make my truck very much faster, but not slower.