Demand For Electric Pickup Trucks Continue To Decline

[Rammit]

Yikes. Someone’s gonna say it’s the same amount of water for ICE vehicles too.

My Dad is a retired firefighter and worked for a city that had a ton of fires including car fires. Said it takes about 2000 gallons for an average car fire. There are also reports that these cars have ignited again even after they used 36k gallons of water on them. You still can’t mail lithium batteries at the post office, who wants this in their garage

 

[Snofire]

Yeah, Samsung did something, but there have been multiple iphones that have had battery issues, and Apple really hasnt done anything other than release new phones.

How would a firefighter get close enough to a burning car to attach a fire hose to the battery box? And not even sure submerging it is a good idea because the batteries will still keep burning. They are going to need to figure out some chemical firefighting material to stop the chain reaction. It will come in time. As long as people keep buying EVs, they are going to keep selling them. And the number of fires is fairly low percentage wise. It's just tht when it happens the media blows it up

Use a water curtain and then a 2nd hose for a piercing nozzle. Kind of the same technique to turn of gas valves.

 

[HSKR R/T]

My Dad is a retired firefighter and worked for a city that had a ton of fires including car fires. Said it takes about 2000 gallons for an average car fire. There are also reports that these cars have ignited again even after they used 36k gallons of water on them. You still can’t mail lithium batteries at the post office, who wants this in their garage

The same people that still buy KIA and Hyundai

Consumer Alert: Kia and Hyundai Issue Recalls for 3.3M Vehicles, Advise Owners to Park Outside | NHTSA

Recall for 3.3 million Kia and Hyundai vehicles issued to park outside for fire risk due to an electrical short from a brake fluid leak.

www.nhtsa.gov

Kias and Hyundais continue to burn after 5.8 million cars and SUVs recalled

As more car and SUV drivers report narrow escapes after the recalls of 5.8 million vehicles, a national auto safety watchdog tells I-Team investigator Jackie Callaway about plans to issue a consumer alert.

www.abcactionnews.com

 

[HSKR R/T]

Use a water curtain and then a 2nd hose for a piercing nozzle. Kind of the same technique to turn of gas valves.

If they are using a piercing nozzle then they aren't attaching a hose to a fitting in the battery box as was suggested in the comment i replied to

 

[Snofire]

We have not seen any battery boxes with fittings for a hose. Fire Departments are having to play catch-up with EV's and trying to find an effective way to put them out without putting tons of water on them.

I know someone said before using a "Fire Blanket" to put it out. Just to clarify that those are best for regular car fires, not EV. You need to cool down the batteries as fast as possible to prevent an explosion. Putting out a car fire is 1 thing but keeping the batteries cool is the big concern with EV's.

I'll link 2 videos, this one is what a fire a fire blanket does (Suppress a fire, not extinguish it) and is just a "Tool" in the arsenal. For as much time as it takes to do everything they did, a trained department could put that out in as much time. Again, the issue is keeping the batteries cool. Blanket Video -

This is 1 way to keep things cool but isn't always feasible for small rural departments but again is like using a piercing nozzle to keep the batteries cool.

 

[HSKR R/T]

We have not seen any battery boxes with fittings for a hose. Fire Departments are having to play catch-up with EV's and trying to find an effective way to put them out without putting tons of water on them.

That's because a fitting on the battery box isn't anything that is being done, because it's not a viable option. it would be a huge liability thing for a firefighter to try and get that close to the car(would have to climb underneath) to attach the hose. Or would have to have some sort of a camera system and something similar to the piercing tool to line up the nozzle and get it attached to a fitting.

 

[Willwork4truck]

My Dad is a retired firefighter and worked for a city that had a ton of fires including car fires. Said it takes about 2000 gallons for an average car fire. There are also reports that these cars have ignited again even after they used 36k gallons of water on them. You still can’t mail lithium batteries at the post office, who wants this in their garage

Here's a today news story from msn.com, this is a partial quote only:
"A car accident on Christmas Day caused a fire that required four tankers, over 10 rescue organizations and 36,000 of gallons of water to put out.

The catch? Not a single drop of gasoline was involved.

According to WIAT-TV, authorities in Pine Level, Alabama had such trouble putting out a fire caused by a Tesla accident on Interstate 65.

The department said in a statement that they were dispatched to the single-vehicle accident at 11:14 p.m. on Dec. 25.

"911 advised our units that an electric vehicle was involved. Assistance was immediately requested from Marbury, Booth, Independence, White City, Old Kingston, and Verbena Fire Departments, along with Haynes Ambulance, ALEA, Autauga Co EMA, ALDOT, and Autauga Co Sheriff’s Office," the statement read.

"When the first engine arrived, they found a Tesla Model Y automobile fully involved in fire," the statement continued."
End of copied portion.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Here's a today news story from msn.com, this is a partial quote only:
"A car accident on Christmas Day caused a fire that required four tankers, over 10 rescue organizations and 36,000 of gallons of water to put out.

The catch? Not a single drop of gasoline was involved.

According to WIAT-TV, authorities in Pine Level, Alabama had such trouble putting out a fire caused by a Tesla accident on Interstate 65.

The department said in a statement that they were dispatched to the single-vehicle accident at 11:14 p.m. on Dec. 25.

"911 advised our units that an electric vehicle was involved. Assistance was immediately requested from Marbury, Booth, Independence, White City, Old Kingston, and Verbena Fire Departments, along with Haynes Ambulance, ALEA, Autauga Co EMA, ALDOT, and Autauga Co Sheriff’s Office," the statement read.

"When the first engine arrived, they found a Tesla Model Y automobile fully involved in fire," the statement continued."
End of copied portion.

You mean the article already linked in post 61 in this very thread?

Demand For Electric Pickup Trucks Continue To Decline

https://www.the-express.com/lifestyle/cars/122681/firefighters-gallons-water-flaming-tesla

5thgenrams.com

 

[kdoublep]

The same people that still buy KIA and Hyundai

Consumer Alert: Kia and Hyundai Issue Recalls for 3.3M Vehicles, Advise Owners to Park Outside | NHTSA

Recall for 3.3 million Kia and Hyundai vehicles issued to park outside for fire risk due to an electrical short from a brake fluid leak.

www.nhtsa.gov

Kias and Hyundais continue to burn after 5.8 million cars and SUVs recalled

As more car and SUV drivers report narrow escapes after the recalls of 5.8 million vehicles, a national auto safety watchdog tells I-Team investigator Jackie Callaway about plans to issue a consumer alert.

www.abcactionnews.com

I didn't see Tellurides listed. Wife drives a 2022.

 

[Willwork4truck]

You mean the article already linked in post 61 in this very thread?

Demand For Electric Pickup Trucks Continue To Decline

https://www.the-express.com/lifestyle/cars/122681/firefighters-gallons-water-flaming-tesla

5thgenrams.com

Could be, I just saw it today. Typical news organizations publishing old news.

 

[Attaboy]

I wonder if folks with electric cars listen to AC,DC or something more current? I’ll drive a HEMI as long as they make ‘em.

 

[Willwork4truck]

I wonder if folks with electric cars listen to AC,DC or something more current? I’ll drive a HEMI as long as they make ‘em.

Watt did you say? You must be amp’d up.

 

[Attaboy]

High voltage wasn’t a band was it?

 

[theblet]

Maybe they listen to Metallica fight fire with fire

 

[jimothy]

High voltage wasn’t a band was it?

No, but it is a way to get a dirty deed done dirt cheap.

 

[Dewey]

Need more water

 

[theblet]

Need more water

Throw a blanket on it!

 

[Dewey]

No worries………just a tiny lithium battery. Cars are perfectly safe.

 

[Darksteel165]

Half of Ford's dealers still don't want to sell electric cars and trucks

Not all Ford dealerships are thrilled about the changes they have to make to sell electric vehicles.

www.businessinsider.com

"Just over half of Ford's nearly 3,000 dealerships in the US have opted out of the investments necessary to sell electric vehicles like the F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-e, Ford says. "

 

[Dewey]

Green energy at it’s finest……