Anyone getting a 2025 with the I6 Hurricane?

[BowDown]

That's backwards. Turbos put out gobs of torque down low, some put out 90+% peak before 2000 rpms. NA engines take a long time to rev and reach peak power numbers.


These are not meant for towing.


If all I needed was to make small deliveries, carry my kids and equipment back and forth to school or get back and forth to a job site, sure. This is basically passenger car duty.

A turbo diesel does it off idle, like 1200 RPM vs a turbo gas engine. 90+% peak before 2000 rpm? No, maybe 2500-3000 but not 2000 rpm.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/jeep-ram-dodge-hurricane-inline-six-engine-deep-dive/

Diesels can spool a turbo up that low because their compression is much higher than a gas engine at 14-25:1 static compression before boost. That compression (its subsequent exhaust) is what spools the turbos up so fast making them suitable for towing. Again, this isn't in dispute

 

[ram813ltd]

I am most likely going to work with Mark Dodge. What do you think about the white leather on the Tungsten? Are you nervous it will stain like crazy?

leather doesn't stain just more visible when it gets dirty.

 

[BowDown]

NA need to rev to make power, doesn't mean its struggling anymore than a cummins which hits 2800 rpms with a redline of 3200 or whatever it is.

Perhaps towing a loaded trailer and timing it 0 to 60 is a better indication than "listen to it struggle". Nothing wrong the performance of gas engines pulling 10 to 15k. Far better than the diesels 20 years ago towing the same loads.

Needing to rev to 4500 rpm before any appreciable acceleration is achieved is wheezing and underpowered to me. For example, my 5.7 towed a 5k trailer with my car on it and got the job done. If I were doing that everyday, I'd say the 5.7 was a poor decision and that a 25/3500 turbo diesel was the better choice.

The hurricane in the 2025 1500 isn't going to be a poor performer; will everyone like and embrace it? No, that's clear but will it be a poor performing pairing in the 1500, probably not.
There's things I don't like and potential deal killers for me about the 2025, the hurricane engine isn't one

 

[BowDown]

leather doesn't stain just more visible when it gets dirty.

I hear you and people say that but the indigo frost leather in my truck looks brand new.
I think it depends on what you do with the truck and how often you clean the interior

 

[silver billet]

A turbo diesel does it off idle, like 1200 RPM vs a turbo gas engine. 90+% peak before 2000 rpm? No, maybe 2500-3000 but not 2000 rpm.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/jeep-ram-dodge-hurricane-inline-six-engine-deep-dive/

Diesels can spool a turbo up that low because their compression is much higher than a gas engine at 14-25:1 static compression before boost. That compression (its subsequent exhaust) is what spools the turbos up so fast making them suitable for towing. Again, this isn't in dispute

The first gen chevy 2.7 makes 90% peak at 1500.

The reason turbos aren't used in heavy dutys has nothing to do with any of this. It's duty cycle and probably MPG to a lesser extent, they suck back fuel worse than a drunken sailor when towing.

 

[tyresmoker]

leather doesn't stain just more visible when it gets dirty.

I am 50k in on my Limited with the ivory/blue interior...And it looks brand new...The secret: Don't drag your azz across the outboard bolster when getting in and out of the seat, use the running board.

 

[dcchris311]

Well someone from the Facebook groups has movement on their custom ordered 5.5th Gen Ram.

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[jonusko]

Well someone from the Facebook groups has movement on their custom ordered 5.5th Gen Ram.

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On Friday, I was notified that my custom order has been scheduled and is in the production queue. It’s a Laramie with a lot of packages.

 

[HSKR R/T]

We've gone through this. The 1500's are not "trucks", they are basically large cars and are designed for passenger car duty and light/infrequent recreational towing.

And yet you are complaining about engine options in a vehicle you say is just a passenger car, and not a real truck

 

[silver billet]

And yet you are complaining about engine options in a vehicle you say is just a passenger car, and not a real truck

Yes. Have you not read a thing?

Anyone getting a 2025 with the I6 Hurricane?

No manufacturer puts small turbo engines in their HD trucks. Not sure what point you are trying to make be repeating that over and over againz or even singleing out Ford specifically It's like your so close with the obseravation that "No manufacturer puts small turbo engines in their HD...

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[HSKR R/T]

Yes. Have you not read a thing?

Anyone getting a 2025 with the I6 Hurricane?

No manufacturer puts small turbo engines in their HD trucks. Not sure what point you are trying to make be repeating that over and over againz or even singleing out Ford specifically It's like your so close with the obseravation that "No manufacturer puts small turbo engines in their HD...

5thgenrams.com

Oh, Ive been reading you get beat up by many different people over your comments and talking around the issue, saying one thing, then contradicting yourself later in, then getting upset when you are called out on it, but never actually addressing the thing you were called out on

 

[vdrsnk04]

What?

I used to drag my 6k 24' enclosed trailer around with the 3.6L gas Jeep pickup. A Ram with a 6.4L Hemi would have made light work of it. I see guys all the time praising the new gas HD trucks and talking about how amazed they are at the pulling power.

The Ford 7.3 gas gets within 2 MPG of the diesel when towing 15k loads, and does so without DEF, 3 gallons of engine oil, fifteen coolers mounted all over the chassis, or $100 worth of fuel filters. It also runs on fuel that's less expensive and easier to find.

It's not 1994 anymore. These new high powered gas engines mated to 8 and 10 speed transmissions are no joke. I would go as far as to argue that they are a better option for 95% of HD truck owners. I'm currently driving a 6.7 Powerstroke, the most powerful engine you can possibly buy in any pickup truck and honestly if I buy another truck in a couple years it WILL be a gasoline truck.

That mpg statement is a large stretch lol. Must be the same logic used if you would have said that’s why all of todays semi’s are getting gas engines put in them

 

[PetePA]

Oh, Ive been reading you get beat up by many different people over your comments and talking around the issue, saying one thing, then contradicting yourself later in, then getting upset when you are called out on it, but never actually addressing the thing you were called out on

After reading everything, he either has trouble with logic or is a very successful Internet troll

 

[silver billet]

Oh, Ive been reading you get beat up by many different people over your comments and talking around the issue, saying one thing, then contradicting yourself later in, then getting upset when you are called out on it, but never actually addressing the thing you were called out on

I regret cleaning out my blocked users list the other day. Welp, back in the box you go.

 

[silver billet]

After reading everything, he either has trouble with logic or is a very successful Internet troll

The logic is simple: the reason Ford doesn't put small turbo gas engines in their super duty trucks, is the same reason I won't buy a small turbo gasser in a half ton truck. That's the smallest amount of words I can use.

 

[PetePA]

The logic is simple: the reason Ford doesn't put small turbo gas engines in their super duty trucks, is the same reason I won't buy a small turbo gasser in a half ton truck. That's the smallest amount of words I can use.

Do you know someone that works at Ford?

 

[CalvinC]

The logic is simple: the reason Ford doesn't put small turbo gas engines in their super duty trucks, is the same reason I won't buy a small turbo gasser in a half ton truck. That's the smallest amount of words I can use.

I suspect phobia like this gives them fear of tanking sales.

Plus fleet managers eye repair costs - which is inevitably higher with turbos.
Though again I must make the distinction between reliability and repairability.

However a Powerbost Super Duty (with HD cooling stack) would be a job site dominator. 7.2kw for the crew, and all day AC without the motor running for the superintendent who never leaves the cab.

I suspect this is exactly what the F200 name was trademarked for - so as to not sully the Super Duty name.

 

[silver billet]

Do you know someone that works at Ford?

There is a good interview with the Ford 7.3 engineering manager here:

You can also google all this stuff, it's not exactly rocket science nor am I saying anything that hasn't been said a million times by as many people but some of y'all just got hard heads.

But I am going to move on now as clearly we're not going to change each others minds.

 

[PetePA]

There is a good interview with the Ford 7.3 engineering manager here:

You can also google all this stuff, it's not exactly rocket science nor am I saying anything that hasn't been said a million times by as many people but some of y'all just got hard heads.

But I am going to move on now as clearly we're not going to change each others minds.

There are always tradeoffs.

https://www.way.com/blog/ford-7-3-gas-problems-you-can-solve/#:~:text=City%20and%20Highway%20driving%20get,reduce%20emissions%20or%20save%20gas.

If you're looking for power, Hurricane comes out on top.

If you're looking for fuel efficiency, hurricane comes out on top.

Not sure on reliability.

 

[dcchris311]

RAM is already giving incentives!! An offer popped up while I browsed their website for the 100th time today. Unfortunately it'll probably expire before I even get the truck.....