5th Gen Stock Stereo Upgrade Options?

[Chillz]

I have updated my system over the weekend using the following:
4 JL C2 6x9 for front and rear doors powered by a JL XD400.4v2 amp.
2 Infinity reference REF-3032cfx 3.5 with the resistor it came with.
1 Pioneer TS-SWX2002 12 inch Shallow mount powered by Planet Audio AC1600.4 (Temporarily)
Audio Control LC7i - Powered using remote wire fuse tap.
Pac ANC- CH01. Harness

I ran into an issue where when everything is factory, If I shut the headunit off, disconnect from the ANC and connect to the harness everything works awesome. If I shut everything off, leave for 15 minutes or so, turn the headunit back on nothing works, Its like there is no signal coming from the headunit. If I put everything back to factory, wait a few minutes the system starts working fine again. At that point and can connect back to the harness and everything works.

Any thoughts on whats going on and how to fix this issue?

 

[RichInMN]

I have updated my system over the weekend using the following:
4 JL C2 6x9 for front and rear doors powered by a JL XD400.4v2 amp.
2 Infinity reference REF-3032cfx 3.5 with the resistor it came with.
1 Pioneer TS-SWX2002 12 inch Shallow mount powered by Planet Audio AC1600.4 (Temporarily)
Audio Control LC7i - Powered using remote wire fuse tap.
Pac ANC- CH01. Harness

I ran into an issue where when everything is factory, If I shut the headunit off, disconnect from the ANC and connect to the harness everything works awesome. If I shut everything off, leave for 15 minutes or so, turn the headunit back on nothing works, Its like there is no signal coming from the headunit. If I put everything back to factory, wait a few minutes the system starts working fine again. At that point and can connect back to the harness and everything works.

Any thoughts on whats going on and how to fix this issue?

If you are using high-level inputs to go from the Head Unit speaker outs into the amp or a line converter, the HU may shut off because it sees no load.

Some folks have added in-line resistors (if you search the stereo thread for resistor you'll find details), some folks have bought a specialty harness with resistors already soldered into it. In my case, my DSP presents a slight load which was convenient, and meant I didn't need resistors.

The information above assumes you have the Base 6 setup... Good luck!

 

[All_Black_Lone_Star]

I have updated my system over the weekend using the following:
4 JL C2 6x9 for front and rear doors powered by a JL XD400.4v2 amp.
2 Infinity reference REF-3032cfx 3.5 with the resistor it came with.
1 Pioneer TS-SWX2002 12 inch Shallow mount powered by Planet Audio AC1600.4 (Temporarily)
Audio Control LC7i - Powered using remote wire fuse tap.
Pac ANC- CH01. Harness

I ran into an issue where when everything is factory, If I shut the headunit off, disconnect from the ANC and connect to the harness everything works awesome. If I shut everything off, leave for 15 minutes or so, turn the headunit back on nothing works, Its like there is no signal coming from the headunit. If I put everything back to factory, wait a few minutes the system starts working fine again. At that point and can connect back to the harness and everything works.

Any thoughts on whats going on and how to fix this issue?

Two questions:
1. Do you have the base audio system or the premium (alpine or HK)?
The base system will not need resistors I currently have mine hooked up with an LC7i with no issues.
2. What do you mean when you say:
"Audio Control LC7i - Powered using remote wire fuse tap."
The LC7i needs to be connected to constant 12V and ground you can daisy chain it from your amps power and ground. You do not need to connect a remote wire as the unit has GTO technology that will automatically turn it on.

 

[Chillz]

Two questions:
1. Do you have the base audio system or the premium (alpine or HK)?
The base system will not need resistors I currently have mine hooked up with an LC7i with no issues.
2. What do you mean when you say:
"Audio Control LC7i - Powered using remote wire fuse tap."
The LC7i needs to be connected to constant 12V and ground you can daisy chain it from your amps power and ground. You do not need to connect a remote wire as the unit has GTO technology that will automatically turn it on.

I have the Base 6 speaker system. I bypass the GTO in the LC7i and use a remote trigger instead.
The setup works as is however, I think the problem might be when the system shuts down and powers back on, the headunit not seeing a speaker load.
I ordered some Audio Control AC-LGD 20 to see if that will help.

 

[traymo]

Hi Guys,
I have the base 6 speaker system with the 8.4 non-nav radio. I have ANC and would like to keep it. Those of you with the base speaker system, did replacing your speakers help with the radio volume stopping at 22-23? When listening to SAT radio, any volume over 22-23 doesn't get any louder. I just want to make sure if I upgrade the speakers, I won't end up with the same issue. I would like to replace all 6 speakers and keep ANC. I do not need an amp or sub. What would you recommend?
Thanks, Tom

 

[Scram1500]

Hi Guys,
I have the base 6 speaker system with the 8.4 non-nav radio. I have ANC and would like to keep it. Those of you with the base speaker system, did replacing your speakers help with the radio volume stopping at 22-23? When listening to SAT radio, any volume over 22-23 doesn't get any louder. I just want to make sure if I upgrade the speakers, I won't end up with the same issue. I would like to replace all 6 speakers and keep ANC. I do not need an amp or sub. What would you recommend?
Thanks, Tom

Fade the sound to the front a couple nothces, it's the only things that truly helps the poor volume. Replacing the speakers opens a can of worms and at that point you're better off adding an amplifier, but then you lose ANC

 

[brian42]

The only thing you can really do that's a drop in replacement is dash speakers. Anything else and you start getting into ANC, speaker polarities, etc.

Many speakers have been discussed and there have been success with most of them. Remember that the base 6 speaker audio has a physical crossover/bassblocker compared to the other two "premium" systems. If you do replace your dash speakers check to see if there's a capacitor on the (+) terminal. If not you will need to install bass blockers.

Here's a recent thread if you are interested:

For those with 6 speaker base stereo who have upgraded-What speaker did you use?

I literally spent over an hour trying to find this answer, so please don't come at me for not searching! I have BASE stereo (6 speakers) and want to do a simple speaker swap. The other threads out there got SOOO much input that finding this answer has become about impossible, too many people...

5thgenrams.com

 

[Moparian]

Hi Guys,
I have the base 6 speaker system with the 8.4 non-nav radio. I have ANC and would like to keep it. Those of you with the base speaker system, did replacing your speakers help with the radio volume stopping at 22-23? When listening to SAT radio, any volume over 22-23 doesn't get any louder. I just want to make sure if I upgrade the speakers, I won't end up with the same issue. I would like to replace all 6 speakers and keep ANC. I do not need an amp or sub. What would you recommend?
Thanks, Tom

Turn the speed adjusted volume up to 3 in the audio settings. Also replace your dash speakers with some Infinity 3032cfx which will help the highs.

 

[D_Chiz]

Hi all new to the forum.. Just picked up night package with 8 inch screen no nav and base system.. If I read this correctly, no ANC solution exist where I can keep this functionality? What about a pre amp solution? Maybe im alone, but I like the ANC..

PAC AmpPRO AP4-CH41 Aftermarket Amplifier Interface

Allows seamless addition of an amplifier in select 2014-up Chrysler-made vehicles

www.crutchfield.com

 

[traymo]

Turn the speed adjusted volume up to 3 in the audio settings. Also replace your dash speakers with some Infinity 3032cfx which will help the highs.

It's not the speed adjust. It is like the system is limiting the volume past 22-23. If I do the dash speakers, is it still going to clip out at 23?

 

[pmegason]

It's not the speed adjust. It is like the system is limiting the volume past 22-23. If I do the dash speakers, is it still going to clip out at 23?

I have the same system and i can go full volume with SAT, FM or Bluetooth. There has to be something wrong with your stereo or there's something in the settings somewhere.

 

[Moparian]

It's not the speed adjust. It is like the system is limiting the volume past 22-23. If I do the dash speakers, is it still going to clip out at 23?

Mine does the same thing....with the dash speakers and the speed adjust I never have to go past 20 even with the windows down. The volume limit only happens with CarPlay and Satellite for me.

 

[traymo]

I have the same system and i can go full volume with SAT, FM or Bluetooth. There has to be something wrong with your stereo or there's something in the settings somewhere.

The volume numbers keep going up past 23, it just doesn't make a difference. There are a number of others with the same issue that have the base 6 speaker system.

 

[traymo]

The only thing you can really do that's a drop in replacement is dash speakers. Anything else and you start getting into ANC, speaker polarities, etc.

Many speakers have been discussed and there have been success with most of them. Remember that the base 6 speaker audio has a physical crossover/bassblocker compared to the other two "premium" systems. If you do replace your dash speakers check to see if there's a capacitor on the (+) terminal. If not you will need to install bass blockers.

Here's a recent thread if you are interested:

For those with 6 speaker base stereo who have upgraded-What speaker did you use?

I literally spent over an hour trying to find this answer, so please don't come at me for not searching! I have BASE stereo (6 speakers) and want to do a simple speaker swap. The other threads out there got SOOO much input that finding this answer has become about impossible, too many people...

5thgenrams.com

Thanks for this link! Great information.

 

[Chillz]

If you are using high-level inputs to go from the Head Unit speaker outs into the amp or a line converter, the HU may shut off because it sees no load.

Some folks have added in-line resistors (if you search the stereo thread for resistor you'll find details), some folks have bought a specialty harness with resistors already soldered into it. In my case, my DSP presents a slight load which was convenient, and meant I didn't need resistors.

The information above assumes you have the Base 6 setup... Good luck!

I got the Audio Control AC-LGD 20 and it fixed the issue. Thanks for your help.

 

[GWillings]

I have updated my system over the weekend using the following:
4 JL C2 6x9 for front and rear doors powered by a JL XD400.4v2 amp.
2 Infinity reference REF-3032cfx 3.5 with the resistor it came with.
1 Pioneer TS-SWX2002 12 inch Shallow mount powered by Planet Audio AC1600.4 (Temporarily)
Audio Control LC7i - Powered using remote wire fuse tap.
Pac ANC- CH01. Harness

I ran into an issue where when everything is factory, If I shut the headunit off, disconnect from the ANC and connect to the harness everything works awesome. If I shut everything off, leave for 15 minutes or so, turn the headunit back on nothing works, Its like there is no signal coming from the headunit. If I put everything back to factory, wait a few minutes the system starts working fine again. At that point and can connect back to the harness and everything works.

Any thoughts on whats going on and how to fix this issue?

You need the harness that I got. I got mine from www.netaudio.com
I have zero complaints with this harness. It has the load resistors in-line so there is no worries. It also can come with 9 wire speed wire to loop back into the OEM wiring so you do not have to run speaker wires to your doors. You have the output side be terminated into RCA or ferrules.

 

[GWillings]

This is the exact harness you will need. I have already talked with the owner of NET AUDIO and this harness does in fact work with the 5th gen rams. You will need the ANC bypass harness as well though.

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netaudio.com

 

[sppb32]

Just to add some info I tested the 8" head unit with the AP4 CH1 and there's no clipping even at full volume, and it doesn't stop rising in any source.

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[traymo]

Just to add some info I tested the 8" head unit with the AP4 CH1 and there's no clipping even at full volume, and it doesn't stop rising in any source.

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Does this bypass the ANC? Can you hook up this unit without changing speakers?

 

[sppb32]

Not sure, I know it takes the signal straight from the head unit and the factory amplifier has to stay plugged in for it to work so you don't have to replace anything if you don't want to

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