2025 Rebel Taillights

[QuantumRebelX]

LED tail lights are the only ones capable of having the animated feature for sure. I’m almost positive that the projector headlights found on limiteds and tungsten’s are the only ones capable of the animated feature.
For both the rebel and the laramie, incandescent tail lights are standard. Level 2 package for the rebel, and night edition package for the Laramie are the packages that list exterior front and rear light animation, but there is no package at all that specifically lists LED tail lights as included. So, as far as tails on a rebel or Laramie, if it’s not possible to equip them with LED tails at all, then it’s not possible to have the animated rear lighting feature.

As far as the headlamps, they are all the same reflector led headlamps from tradesman to rebel. Can anyone with these reflector headlamps tell me if they have signature lighting (what some refer to as “halos”)? The sure way to check this in any ambient lighting situation is to go into the radio settings a turn off the daytime running lights. Turn the headlight switch to the off position, and start the truck. Is there any type of lighting that is on in the headlamps?

Also, @AnthonyRI, can you post up the current rebel and Laramie order guide pdf’s please?

I can verify for sure that the reflector LED headlights do NOT have any type of LED halo. Will send pics when i can. (not to say they don't look cool, the lighting is actually pretty good, would just like that halo signature)

Also, I need to verify, but i'm pretty sure the turn signal marker lights (yellow) are incandescent as well.

 

[f_martinek]

Also, I need to verify, but i'm pretty sure the turn signal marker lights (yellow) are incandescent as well.

Yep, the front marker and turn signal are incandescent, and they are a royal PITA to change. I had a bulb fall out of the holder and into the headlight housing which then it takes about an hour to get the headlight out since you have to take off trim on the bumper and remove the grill to get the screws for the housing exposed.

 

[QuantumRebelX]

Yep, the front marker and turn signal are incandescent, and they are a royal PITA to change. I had a bulb fall out of the holder and into the headlight housing which then it takes about an hour to get the headlight out since you have to take off trim on the bumper and remove the grill to get the screws for the housing exposed.

I guess thats the plus side of bulbs, though, you CAN change them. Had an LED go out in my wife's traverse tailight, had to replace the whole taillight assembly. Not cheap.

 

[Bearsworld]

Hi,

I wanted to see what options are out there to replace the taillights and third brake light to LED and not just the bulbs. Is the wiring harness the same as 2024? Thank you for your input.

Good Morning Gatorafan
I leave in the upper portion of New York State about 1-1/2 hours northeast of Syracuse,NY
I wanted to pass along some information and advice for anyone considering changing from incandescent light bulbs to LED bulbs or light housings with LED’s installed.
LED bulb's ( Taillight, Brake light and marker lights ) do not generate any or very little Heat when they are on.
As you drive the snow blowup from the road will coat the back of your truck and very soon if you do not stop often to clean your lights off will be invisible to other drivers behind you.
As we get at times 3-4 inches of snow an hour or more no one behind you would be able to see your lights at all and possibly drive right into the back of your truck because of the LED bulbs lack of heat generated.
Incandescent bulbs do generate some heat and will keep a small portion of the snow from completely covering your tail lights.
Also ALWAYS during heavy snow ( especially during Lake Effect Snow Storms ) drive with your 4-way flashers on to also give you a better chance of being seen by other drivers.
I wanted to pass along this information for everyone to consider as almost every vehicle made now has LED lights and this is something the manufacturer’s never think about.

 

[cdemer]

Test driving a 25' rebel Level 2 now. Incandescent lighting front and rear, the only thing they do have is the "RAM" lights that shine down on the ground from the mirrors. Definitely lists front and rear animation but the lights just blink when locked just like every other vehicle.

 

[AnthonyRI]

LED tail lights are the only ones capable of having the animated feature for sure. I’m almost positive that the projector headlights found on limiteds and tungsten’s are the only ones capable of the animated feature.
For both the rebel and the laramie, incandescent tail lights are standard. Level 2 package for the rebel, and night edition package for the Laramie are the packages that list exterior front and rear light animation, but there is no package at all that specifically lists LED tail lights as included. So, as far as tails on a rebel or Laramie, if it’s not possible to equip them with LED tails at all, then it’s not possible to have the animated rear lighting feature.

As far as the headlamps, they are all the same reflector led headlamps from tradesman to rebel. Can anyone with these reflector headlamps tell me if they have signature lighting (what some refer to as “halos”)? The sure way to check this in any ambient lighting situation is to go into the radio settings a turn off the daytime running lights. Turn the headlight switch to the off position, and start the truck. Is there any type of lighting that is on in the headlamps?

Also, @AnthonyRI, can you post up the current rebel and Laramie order guide pdf’s please?

Code guides ahoy!

 

[QuantumRebelX]

Good Morning Gatorafan
I leave in the upper portion of New York State about 1-1/2 hours northeast of Syracuse,NY
I wanted to pass along some information and advice for anyone considering changing from incandescent light bulbs to LED bulbs or light housings with LED’s installed.
LED bulb's ( Taillight, Brake light and marker lights ) do not generate any or very little Heat when they are on.
As you drive the snow blowup from the road will coat the back of your truck and very soon if you do not stop often to clean your lights off will be invisible to other drivers behind you.
As we get at times 3-4 inches of snow an hour or more no one behind you would be able to see your lights at all and possibly drive right into the back of your truck because of the LED bulbs lack of heat generated.
Incandescent bulbs do generate some heat and will keep a small portion of the snow from completely covering your tail lights.
Also ALWAYS during heavy snow ( especially during Lake Effect Snow Storms ) drive with your 4-way flashers on to also give you a better chance of being seen by other drivers.
I wanted to pass along this information for everyone to consider as almost every vehicle made now has LED lights and this is something the manufacturer’s never think about.

This was a huge problem when I switched my wrangler headlights to LEDs. Since they are so big and flat, they caught all the snow/sleet and would never thaw.

 

[Biga]

It depends on the temperatures. Incandescents do create heat but also can cause the snow to melt and then freeze again causing ice build up on the lights which is even harder to remove then the snow.

 

[Biga]

Nice, let us know when you get them installed. I'm excited.

Well I have good news but mostly bad news.

The good news one tail light showed up yesterday. Now the really bad news is that after plugging in the new LED light absolutely nothing, no tail light, no blinker, nothing. Unplugged and plugged in three times then said f it and reinstalled the old light. I don't see any visible damage to the light, I'm guessing just not compatible with the electrical of the Laramie and below trucks. Going to send back for return.

 

[Whoa_Ram]

Damn that does suck. We won’t be able to do anything until we find out how to change settings then. Thanks for trying it out

 

[Biga]

yup no problem. Hopefully won't be to long for programming.

 

[Jimmy07]

Well I have good news but mostly bad news.

The good news one tail light showed up yesterday. Now the really bad news is that after plugging in the new LED light absolutely nothing, no tail light, no blinker, nothing. Unplugged and plugged in three times then said f it and reinstalled the old light. I don't see any visible damage to the light, I'm guessing just not compatible with the electrical of the Laramie and below trucks. Going to send back for return.

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Do you have a spare 12v battery and some leads that you can do some testing on the light? Otherwise, instead of sending it back, I’ll buy it off you for testing.
Been talking to alexey all week, and he’s going to be adding 2025 Ram to alfaobd.

 

[Jimmy07]

@Biga, @Whoa_Ram, does the red wire on your tail light connectors have 12v when probed with a meter? It should be constant even with engine off. The LED tails need that power to function, and if not getting 12v on that connector, need to find where that wire stops being populated on the way to the interior fuse box.

 

[Whoa_Ram]

@Biga, @Whoa_Ram, does the red wire on your tail light connectors have 12v when probed with a meter? It should be constant even with engine off. The LED tails need that power to function, and if not getting 12v on that connector, need to find where that wire stops being populated on the way to the interior fuse box.
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I'll go give a try a bit later today.

 

[Biga]

Do you have a spare 12v battery and some leads that you can do some testing on the light? Otherwise, instead of sending it back, I’ll buy it off you for testing.
Been talking to alexey all week, and he’s going to be adding 2025 Ram to alfaobd.

Sorry, I had just dropped this back off to Fedex after I saw this message. I do not have a 12v batter sitting around. I find the lights are readily after doing some further checking to get the second light faster. If someone else figures it out I will be happy to repurchase them but I didn't want $750 tied up on something that was not working for me.

 

[f_martinek]

Mine just showed up at the dealer today, I'm going to pick them up this afternoon. I think my volt meter got left at a friend's house so I won't be able to probe the connector if I have time before @Whoa_Ram, I'll give them a swap and see what happens on a 2025 Laramie.

 

[f_martinek]

Well I'm not surprised but I got the same result, I even started the truck and tried again. It gives a right rear turn signal out error message.

I only know because I was planning on installing a dash cam with a hardwire connection and went over the diagram for the interior fusebox, but each light animation function has a fuse and since I needed to get into there to install the dash cam I took the knee bolster off to check for a fuse. Both the left and right rear animation fuses are installed so we will have to figure out where we lose voltage to the electrical connector at the tail light.

 

[Whoa_Ram]

Well I'm not surprised but I got the same result, I even started the truck and tried again. It gives a right rear turn signal out error message.

I only know because I was planning on installing a dash cam with a hardwire connection and went over the diagram for the interior fusebox, but each light animation function has a fuse and since I needed to get into there to install the dash cam I took the knee bolster off to check for a fuse. Both the left and right rear animation fuses are installed so we will have to figure out where we lose voltage to the electrical connector at the tail light.

You able to check if that wire had constant power? I'm stuck at work and won't be available until this evening.

 

[f_martinek]

You able to check if that wire had constant power? I'm stuck at work and won't be available until this evening.

Unfortunately I was not able to check, my multimeter is at a buddy's house and I looked to see if I had a test light or something and I can't find one.

 

[Whoa_Ram]

@Biga, @Whoa_Ram, does the red wire on your tail light connectors have 12v when probed with a meter? It should be constant even with engine off. The LED tails need that power to function, and if not getting 12v on that connector, need to find where that wire stops being populated on the way to the interior fuse box.
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Was able to check it this morning. The red wire does not have constant power.