2" level, 35x12.50 tires rub

[kliffy77]

Mopar themselves say "not for Rebel or Air Suspension"on the kit.

Shame I guess ill return back

 

[kliffy77]

Just an update: Mopar Lift returned, Readylift ordered.

 

[PorBoy]

^^^. Good deal, did they give you a hard way about returning the Mopar one ?

 

[19Jake]

Every aftermarket wheel is lugcentric.

hubcentric options are available

 

[YoAdrian]

Briefly off topic: I appreciate how this thread has continued without escalating the personal attacks (which are not acceptable). Good work folks, I hope we can continue to disagree without being disagreeable.

Now back to regularly scheduled programming...

 

[rsonedecker]

Just an update: Mopar Lift returned, Readylift ordered.

Cool, probably smart move - but dang it...I was secretly hoping to prove why the mopar kit doesn't work on the rebel! (haha, jk)

 

[kliffy77]

^^^. Good deal, did they give you a hard way about returning the Mopar one ?

No they just asked me why.

 

[Tac747]

No they just asked me why.

At least they sold it to you in the first place. They wouldn't sell me, or install the factory Mopar 2" lift because mine is a quad cab and the product description says "crew cab". They even called Mopar and they confirmed it will not fit a quad cab, although no one at FCA from dealer parts to corporate can tell me why it won't work. I sure will be happy when Bilstein or FOX starts selling their ride height adjustable strut replacements for the 19

 

[E_dawg]

Could one install leveling spacers to the front, in addition to the mopar 2 inch suspension lift?

 

[ksn240]

Could one install leveling spacers to the front, in addition to the mopar 2 inch suspension lift?

Yes, but your cv angles will be terrible and more prone to failure.

 

[MacDuff]

FWIW, just installed the Mopar beadlock 18 inch wheels and I'm running 295/70/18 tires with no rub.
I have the offroad package with no lift. TIres work out to 34.3" and so far so good.

I'll add a level to the front end to get the right look. Still undecided on the best way to level the offroad package.
I was thinking about using the Zone Offroad kit that includes their control arms.

 

[Kinger124]

FWIW, just installed the Mopar beadlock 18 inch wheels and I'm running 295/70/18 tires with no rub.
I have the offroad package with no lift. TIres work out to 34.3" and so far so good.

I'll add a level to the front end to get the right look. Still undecided on the best way to level the offroad package.
I was thinking about using the Zone Offroad kit that includes their control arms.

Pics!

 

[BJG]

Did anyone end up putting 12.5" wide tires?

I am planning a 2" Mopar lift on my Big Horn, stock night edition wheels with 1.5" spacers to run 35 x 12.5.

Lots of talk about this and no one ended up posting results!?

-B

 

[kliffy77]

Did anyone end up putting 12.5" wide tires?

I am planning a 2" Mopar lift on my Big Horn, stock night edition wheels with 1.5" spacers to run 35 x 12.5.

Lots of talk about this and no one ended up posting results!?

-B

35 will fit Max width is 12 if you go more than that the tire will rub and you need a small mod.

 

[BJG]

35 will fit Max width is 12 if you go more than that the tire will rub and you need a small mod.

Do you mean with stock wheels or even with a spacer? I was planning to measure my wheels and lugs in order to get the smallest spacer possible. I think my wheels might have pockets in between the lug locations to help with using thinner spacers so the stud can pass the mounting surface of the wheel slightly.

 

[kliffy77]

Do you mean with stock wheels or even with a spacer? I was planning to measure my wheels and lugs in order to get the smallest spacer possible. I think my wheels might have pockets in between the lug locations to help with using thinner spacers so the stud can pass the mounting surface of the wheel slightly.

stock wheel, any wheel with or without a spacer 12/5 tire will rub.

 

[LaxDfns15]

Do you mean with stock wheels or even with a spacer? I was planning to measure my wheels and lugs in order to get the smallest spacer possible. I think my wheels might have pockets in between the lug locations to help with using thinner spacers so the stud can pass the mounting surface of the wheel slightly.

The more negative offset you have on a wheel (bigger spacer basically), the worse it's going to rub on the fenders. Bigger spacer = wider turn arc of the wheel.

 

[Ram1500rsm]

You should be able to fit 35x12.5x17 with 2" level front but but check your caster values to see where they fall if you're using factory UCA's. I run Zone UCA's and i'm running higher than stock caster to move my wheels forward and away from the back of the front fender wells.
I've found 315/70/17 will rub the back of the front fender wells when turning with 2" front lift and factory caster. (+3* +3.5*), and 17x9 -12offset wheels, but if you go +4.5 +5.0* caster the gap between the tire and the seam open up nicely as + caster is literally pushing your wheels forward and away from that spot. Good to have an aftermarket UCA that offset the BJ so you can have both high caster and camber in the proper specs. (i run my camber at -0.2* to +0*)
prob not the best pic here but i didn't have any rubbing turning with with Rancho QL struts, which is basically setting me up for 2" front. These are 17x9 -12 offset wheels
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Later on i went Kings, prerunnner style bumper and BFG KO2's in 37x12.5x17, setup for 2.5" then cranked the CO's couple of turns up for 2.75" lift. Ran those 37's hard for 12-13k miles in the dirt, i had cosmetic rub, didn't cut any metal

This is how much i rubbed offroading on 37's with a small front lift
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as you can see it's just cosmetic rub and i didn't have to remove the front fender wells at all. (i cut a portion in the front because to match the lines of the bumper)
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For the rear i removed the fender wells, and i'm also running 1" rear bumpstops
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2020-01-04_03-39-10 by RAM RSM, on Flickr

i can turn even if the wheel is tucked in because of a rut

no rubbing runnning washes either, it helps Kings are extended travel so they're bumped 1" higher than stock in the front. Pardon i don't have a video going faster, i ran this wash multiple times that day at 60-65mph, but this is the only video that took. (my kid was filming for me )

Back to 315's cause even with 3.92's the 6 speed trans do suck with 37's So currently running Patagonia MT's in 315/70/17 , so i'm back to having almost 2 fingers of space at the back of that seam
by RAM RSM, on Flickr

And nothing rubs at all
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2020-08-08_06-36-28 by RAM RSM, on Flickr

 

[LaxDfns15]

@Ram1500rsm pretty sure the suspensions and fenders are different between 4th and 5th gens. Not to mention that I don't think any 17's will fit on the 5th gens although that's not that important. A 17x9 +0 offset wheel will perform the same as an 18x9 +0 in terms of rubbing with the same tire.

 

[Ram1500rsm]

@Ram1500rsm pretty sure the suspensions and fenders are different between 4th and 5th gens. Not to mention that I don't think any 17's will fit on the 5th gens although that's not that important. A 17x9 +0 offset wheel will perform the same as an 18x9 +0 in terms of rubbing with the same tire.

My bad, i keep thinking not a lot had changed down there other than wheel choices but the more i read about the new gen truck the more i realize most of that stuff have changed.