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The turbo lag is what I am afraid of. It won't be the smooth Hemi power delivery. Probably when the turbo kicks in, the gas mileage is worse than the Hemi.
I didn't experience any on the Wagoneer SO I drove, or barely noticeable.
my wife's CT4 blackwing has zero, zero, zero, like the pedal is connected to the road. Reminds me of my long gone GTO Judge Ram air III.
I am only comparing to show what modern turbo's are doing relative.
Now the HO has a lot more boost, so maybe?
 

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You can get the Rebel without them, but yeah, people have whined about that already :p

Just messing around. I'm all about getting the rambox and MFT combination, but I realize not everyone likes one or the other. It's only going to hurt Ram to not offer those trim levels without ramboxes. There doesn't seem to be many people who don't care if they have them or not. Most either love them or hate them.
Honestly, I have two reasons I disliked my one truck that had them.
1. The never aligned perfectly and my OCD couldn’t handle the look of them lol.
2. They make the bed too narrow. I haul dirtbikes with the supporting gear for me and my son most weekends. Not enough space with Rambox.
 

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I test drove a GW with the HO for craps and laughs and didn't notice any appreciable lag.

I remember test driving a 2010 BMW 5 series that had so much lag it felt like a full second of a dead pedal every time you tried to go from a stop.
 

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I test drove a GW with the HO for craps and laughs and didn't notice any appreciable lag.

I remember test driving a 2010 BMW 5 series that had so much lag it felt like a full second of a dead pedal every time you tried to go from a stop.
Not the same level but I rented a Ford Escort that had about a 3 second lag when you hit the gas. The best part is after you let off it would continue to accelerate for the 3 seconds it missed at the beginning. It was toasted and probably shouldn’t have been on the road. I didn’t do it any favors pumping the gas pedal as much as I could for the 5 days I had it.

Now back to the can of worms. So 0w40 or 0w20 which is better for my truck….also anyone like chrome bumpers……what about premium vs regular gas.

I think Ram needs to start releasing some of the new trucks for our sanity. @RamCares - We need some new trucks to look at or we’re all gonna lose our marbles.
 

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The ivory tri-coat makes a huge difference. No matter how loaded a truck is, plain white looks like a work truck.
My 2019 Ltd was an Ivory tri-coat with the light interior. That was one good looking truck. Hated to sell it but needed money to buy a house. Got rid of the depreciating asset for an appreciatng one. Still wish I had it though.
 

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Now back to the can of worms. So 0w40 or 0w20 which is better for my truck….also anyone like chrome bumpers……what about premium vs regular gas.



I don’t have a problem with the oil weight recommendations and follow it in my Hemi Ram as well as my other vehicles. Pick your favorite weight/ brand and use it.

I do have a problem with the oil life minder that they recommend following for oil change frequency. It’s a sure way to engine failure before its time but after standard warranty period expires imho. I change oil every 50% oil minder usage or 5000 miles, whichever comes first. For me towing 7k# often at highway speeds that 50% occurs at 4200 – 4400 miles. I’ve never went 5000 miles on an oil change in this 2022 Hemi I now have. And I sure as heck wouldn’t drive 8500+ miles between oil changes following the oil minder the way I use this truck.

The 3.0 Hurricane overhead cams eliminating the roller lifters of the Hemi, but those turbos are working on the oil longevity as well. Listen to what the engineer of the 3.0TT had to say about cokeing. I believe the HO get premium as well.
 

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I don’t have a problem with the oil weight recommendations and follow it in my Hemi Ram as well as my other vehicles. Pick your favorite weight/ brand and use it.

I do have a problem with the oil life minder that they recommend following for oil change frequency. It’s a sure way to engine failure before its time but after standard warranty period expires imho. I change oil every 50% oil minder usage or 5000 miles, whichever comes first. For me towing 7k# often at highway speeds that 50% occurs at 4200 – 4400 miles. I’ve never went 5000 miles on an oil change in this 2022 Hemi I now have. And I sure as heck wouldn’t drive 8500+ miles between oil changes following the oil minder the way I use this truck.

The 3.0 Hurricane overhead cams eliminating the roller lifters of the Hemi, but those turbos are working on the oil longevity as well. Listen to what the engineer of the 3.0TT had to say about cokeing. I believe the HO get premium as well.
Yep. Premium fuel only.
 

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The lag isn't like it lags, and doesn't go at all. It just takes off, like a normal 6, then about 25 MPH, it sets you in the seat. I prefer instant horsepower.
 

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Maybe it was mentioned previously in this thread, idk. But I noticed that the Rambox is standard on everything above Laramie. I normally buy a limited, but I can’t stand Rambox. So that sucks you can’t deselect it!
you can get the 2025 limited with a 6'4 bed and no ram boxes. makes the truck 9 inches longer., that's what I did. now the 2025 tungsten currently is unavailable with that bed option, and you have to get the ram boxes. I think it's stupid of ram not to keep those as a buyer option on all models. a lot of people don't like them.
 

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"When we last tested the 2023 Grand Wagoneer L fitted with the 510-hp version of the 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged six, it managed to get to 60 mph in 5.0 seconds and ran through the quarter mile in 13.5 seconds. Seeing that a crew-cab four-wheel-drive Ram truck is nearly 900 pounds lighter than a Grand Wagoneer L and the truck's engine is more powerful, a low-four-second 0-60 time isn't out of the question. That's a blistering pace for a full-size pickup (the 702-hp TRX only ran a 3.9-second 0-60)."

There are videos available on YouTube with 0-60 times as well.

Source: https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2025-ram-1500-first-drive-review/

For comparison, this website lists a 0-60 of 6.4s for a 2022 Limited: https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/1500-2024
 

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The lag isn't like it lags, and doesn't go at all. It just takes off, like a normal 6, then about 25 MPH, it sets you in the seat. I prefer instant horsepower.
Everyone has their preference, I get that.
 

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Official EPA gas mileage numbers: ZERO gain over the Hemi in the S.O. version, less than the Hemi in the H.O. version, plus you need mid-grade on the S.O. version. So essentially, you're paying more to drive the new engine than you did the Hemi. Just brilliant.

If you have a Hemi truck, never let it go!
 

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you can get the 2025 limited with a 6'4 bed and no ram boxes. makes the truck 9 inches longer., that's what I did. now the 2025 tungsten currently is unavailable with that bed option, and you have to get the ram boxes. I think it's stupid of ram not to keep those as a buyer option on all models. a lot of people don't like them.
Now we just need homebuilders to learn how to use a measuring tape and make garages long enough to park a longer bed crew cab in. My garage is 7” too short for one. It’s not like peeps dont have trucks these days…
 

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Official EPA gas mileage numbers: ZERO gain over the Hemi in the S.O. version, less than the Hemi in the H.O. version, plus you need mid-grade on the S.O. version. So essentially, you're paying more to drive the new engine than you did the Hemi. Just brilliant.

If you have a Hemi truck, never let it go!

You can't have more power without the use of more fuel..... I'm sure if you detune the SO to the power level of a Hemi, then you'd probably get more mpg. The Hemi had its run, time for the SST.
 

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Official EPA gas mileage numbers: ZERO gain over the Hemi in the S.O. version, less than the Hemi in the H.O. version, plus you need mid-grade on the S.O. version. So essentially, you're paying more to drive the new engine than you did the Hemi. Just brilliant.

If you have a Hemi truck, never let it go!
This is still a massive improvement - similar mileage with a LOT more power? Yeah, this is a win.
 

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In an earlier test 0-60 for the HO with brake torque was 4.7; for the SO brake torque 5.2 and no brake torque 5.7. The HO without brake torque was not listed - that would have been insightful.
 

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Now we just need homebuilders to learn how to use a measuring tape and make garages long enough to park a longer bed crew cab in. My garage is 7” too short for one. It’s not like peeps dont have trucks these days…
agree it's going to take me moving some stuff against the wall to get it to fit comfortably so you can move around it when its parked in the garage. it will still be tight though.
I almost gave up on a ram order and was seriously considering another brand before I realized the longer bed was available on the limited. I really wanted that truck I loved everything about the 24 that I drove except the night edition package. and we couldn't find one with all the packages I wanted anywhere close. and then the 24-order window closed. so, It was a 2025 or something else.
 

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You can't have more power without the use of more fuel..... I'm sure if you detune the SO to the power level of a Hemi, then you'd probably get more mpg. The Hemi had its run, time for the SST.

This is still a massive improvement - similar mileage with a LOT more power? Yeah, this is a win.

25 horses?

That's not going to be noticeable in a 5,600 lb. vehicle.
 

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