Could be that you're only voicing half of what you're trying to say.
Nope, some of you are clearly and intentionally misreading this.
That makes sense, but in an earlier post you said half ton pickups are basically passenger cars. If that's true then, speaking as an F150 ecoboost owner, the Hurricane will be more than enough engine for it. I can respect your choice of not wanting your next half ton to have a 6 cylinder turbo. I share that choice as well. But the reasons you provided for not wanting it kind of conflict with your definition of a half ton pickup being basically a passenger car.
Not at all. You CAN still work a half ton. Towing is a great example. But clearly the designs and intended audience is sinking lower and lower into passenger car duty and this latest engine is just proof of that.
When I'm looking for my next truck (say I total mine tomorrow): the options are a good v8 vs a tiny turbo charged engine and I'm getting the v8.
Relevant or not, you're the one who brought it up.
And this is proof of you intentionally misreading my statement. I brought it up as proof that the 5.7 can handle heavy duty usage. That's not irrelevant, what's irrelevant is that its no longer in the lineup because the reason it isn't there has nothing to do with reliability but power demands (it's just not big enough anymore to match the competition even as a base engine).
Just when you seem to want to have a reasonable discussion you throw out triggering statements like the above. BTW, I never mentioned the 6.7 Cummins. You made the obviously inaccurate statement about Ford not putting engines with turbos in real trucks. Why not just own that and admit you made a mistake?
Again a "missreading". Obviously I'm well aware that all modern diesels in trucks these days are turbo charged so you could have used your head and figured out what I was saying: They don't put ecoboost turbo charged gassers in their trucks. I made the point several posts ago that they had the option of putting the ecoboost turbo in their super duty, but instead went way out of their way to design a large NA v8 instead. Even though the ecoboost could put out enough power, they refused to use it. That is the point here.
The turbo diesels used in heavy duty trucks are a completely different class of engine. And at a certain point forced induction is needed if you want to tow very massive loads.
But that's not the options here for less powerful needs. The options are a small turbo charged gasser vs a large NA gasser putting out similar power numbers and they chose the NA gasser for the duty cycle of a hard working truck.
It's funny when people do this. Make statement you fully know will trigger other members, then say you aren't going to talk about it anymore. So you're basically saying you're gonna take your ball and go home?
At a certain point talking further is futile and I'm just running out of patience. Nothing personal.
