2022 Toyota Tundra

[SpeedyV]

I'm on the fence, mainly because of logistics. I live in a townhouse with street parking, so charging at home isn't possible. No chargers at work, either, so my only local charging option would be public charger...which doesn't appeal to me at all as a regular charging routine.

Otherwise I'd be quite interested.

Totally makes sense. I’ve barely hit 19K in three years, and I do have a garage…

 

[Idahoktm]

All the videos I've seen of people handling interior pieces it already sounds like the interior will (again) be plastic rattle trap hell, like every other Toyota.

That's exactly what I was thinking. My Tundra was 100% hard, brittle plastic...very cheap look and feel. The open trays on top of the console are stupid too.

 

[AmericanRebelution]

That front end just doesn't do it for me. It looks like a large mouth bass with it's mouth open!

 

[Hydroblueguy]

Have you seen the new TRD Pro ?

That’s what I want next with the dark leather and the bright orange. Loaded like a dirty diaper

 

[Fatherof3]

That’s what I want next with the dark leather and the bright orange. Loaded like a dirty diaper

From what I've been reading the Pro only comes with the camo interior . I'm just not a big fan of the camo on the outside .

 

[Hydroblueguy]

From what I've been reading the Pro only comes with the camo interior . I'm just not a big fan of the camo on the outside .

Maybe get a limited or whatever the higher trim levels are with the off road and sport package if that’s a option! I don’t like camo either and I hate the chrome bumpers!

 

[traveller09]

The New 2022 Tundra is North America’s New Land Cruiser - Expedition Portal

Editor’s Note: We have received a specification update from Toyota indicating that the payload of the TRD PRO variant will be 1,600 pounds, not the 1455 indicated on the door sticker shown below. This is exciting news, seeing this significant increase in the available capacity of such a capable...

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[Fatherof3]

Maybe get a limited or whatever the higher trim levels are with the off road and sport package if that’s a option! I don’t like camo either and I hate the chrome bumpers!

The SR5 looks pretty good but I'm not sure if you can get the 14" screen in that .

 

[Ninety-9 SE-L]

Since I'm a member on here, this would be the place to discuss. I'm still driving my Frontier, but I've outgrown it, particularly with a family. While the Ram is on the Short list, I wanted to see what the Tundra was going to offer before I made my choice. I really didn't expect that they were going to do a full ground-up build. To me, that means it could be one of the best 1/2-ton platforms, at the moment. For me, I just don't like Ford, I'm not impressed by GM. Nissan Titan makes a good work truck, but it's just plain old and not great for daily use. For an all-rounder, the Ram is the truck to beat, IMO.

Reasons I would want the Ram 1500.
EcoDiesel fuel economy and longer range fuel tank.
Better looks
Front Tow hooks/anchor points
Better storage
I don't yet trust the long-term reliability of a new V6 twin-turbo engine.

Reasons I would want the Tundra:
CrewMax + 6.5' bed + RWD (don't want 4x4), is my ideal setup for a family and towing.
TSS 2.5 is pretty damn good. I'm not the biggest fan of nanny features, but I do want driver assists, nowadays, especially in a big truck.
Pretty well laid-out center console.
I don't really care for multi-use tailgates, but I think the easy access button is pretty dope.
Since I've already convinced myself to pay $50k+ for a mid-level Ram, $50k seems to get me more with the Tundra.

 

[djevox]

Since I'm a member on here, this would be the place to discuss. I'm still driving my Frontier, but I've outgrown it, particularly with a family. While the Ram is on the Short list, I wanted to see what the Tundra was going to offer before I made my choice. I really didn't expect that they were going to do a full ground-up build. To me, that means it could be one of the best 1/2-ton platforms, at the moment. For me, I just don't like Ford, I'm not impressed by GM. Nissan Titan makes a good work truck, but it's just plain old and not great for daily use. For an all-rounder, the Ram is the truck to beat, IMO.

Reasons I would want the Ram 1500.
EcoDiesel fuel economy and longer range fuel tank.
Better looks
Front Tow hooks/anchor points
Better storage
I don't yet trust the long-term reliability of a new V6 twin-turbo engine.

Reasons I would want the Tundra:
CrewMax + 6.5' bed + RWD (don't want 4x4), is my ideal setup for a family and towing.
TSS 2.5 is pretty damn good. I'm not the biggest fan of nanny features, but I do want driver assists, nowadays, especially in a big truck.
Pretty well laid-out center console.
I don't really care for multi-use tailgates, but I think the easy access button is pretty dope.
Since I've already convinced myself to pay $50k+ for a mid-level Ram, $50k seems to get me more with the Tundra.

If it makes you feel any better about the twin turbo engine, Toyotas never had a problem developing good turbo engines. The big question to that though, is whether or not BMW stuck their dirty fingers into the tundra‘s new V6 engine.

 

[AlbertaClipper]

If it makes you feel any better about the twin turbo engine, Toyotas never had a problem developing good turbo engines. The big question to that though, is whether or not BMW stuck their dirty fingers into the tundra‘s new V6 engine.

I wouldn't think so... it's the 3.5L platform they've had for years now, not the Supra engine, right?

 

[djevox]

I wouldn't think so... it's the 3.5L platform they've had for years now, not the Supra engine, right?

I thought so, but I’m not sure. I’ll have to research it

 

[Ninety-9 SE-L]

I wouldn't think so... it's the 3.5L platform they've had for years now, not the Supra engine, right?

The Supra engine is an inline 6 designed by BMW. Personally, they should've used the V6 TT, since it's supposedly really good, but they had to go out and make it an I-6 or it just wouldn't hold tradition.

The Tundra's new engine is derived from the V35A engine series (<--link), It's been out for about 5 years, currently in the LS500 and (maybe?) Land Cruiser starting this year or next.... Turbos never scream long-term reliability, but mostly because I'm old skool. Consumer reports is saying the V35A engine is the most reliable Turbo Engine on the market, so that might dispel some of my fears:

 

[djevox]

The Supra engine is an inline 6 designed by BMW. Personally, they should've used the V6 TT, since it's supposedly really good, but they had to go out and make it an I-6 or it just wouldn't hold tradition.

The Tundra's new engine is derived from the V35A engine series (<--link), It's been out for about 5 years, currently in the LS500 and (maybe?) Land Cruiser starting this year or next.... Turbos never scream long-term reliability, but mostly because I'm old skool. Consumer reports is saying the V35A engine is the most reliable Turbo Engine on the market, so that might dispel some of my fears:

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I think what kills turbo engines reliability-wise for the consumer market are all the extra controls that are added. If you take a look at heavy equipment and fleet service vehicles like tractor trailers, they have a pretty good lifespan compared to gas versions. However, emissions controls are starting to mess with that. They are just way behind the standards of light duty automobiles.

 

[Fatherof3]

The Supra engine is an inline 6 designed by BMW. Personally, they should've used the V6 TT, since it's supposedly really good, but they had to go out and make it an I-6 or it just wouldn't hold tradition.

The Tundra's new engine is derived from the V35A engine series (<--link), It's been out for about 5 years, currently in the LS500 and (maybe?) Land Cruiser starting this year or next.... Turbos never scream long-term reliability, but mostly because I'm old skool. Consumer reports is saying the V35A engine is the most reliable Turbo Engine on the market, so that might dispel some of my fears:

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The only thing that would "worry" me is that engine has been used in a car but never a truck that does a lot of hauling and/or towing . We'll know for sure in a few years though . I've also heard that the new TTV6 in the tundra requires it to idle for a minute or two before shutting it off .

 

[djevox]

The only thing that would "worry" me is that engine has been used in a car but never a truck that does a lot of hauling and/or towing . We'll know for sure in a few years though . I've also heard that the new TTV6 in the tundra requires it to idle for a minute or two before shutting it off .

If that is the case, then I’m hoping Toyota built in a turbo timer. I used them a lot in the past and it’s pretty nice to set a countdown timer, lock the doors, and walk away knowing the vehicle will shut off in a few minutes.

 

[Ninety-9 SE-L]

If that is the case, then I’m hoping Toyota built in a turbo timer. I used them a lot in the past and it’s pretty nice to set a countdown timer, lock the doors, and walk away knowing the vehicle will shut off in a few minutes.

I highly doubt.

• Top reason is here: https://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=192
  "Intercoolers and turbochargers use a separate cooling system with an additional radiator and electric pump."
  So basically, the turbos have the ability to continue cooling after the engine has been shut off. My guess is the Tundra's independent Intercooler/Turbo cooler will probably be a lot beefier than in the Lexus due to the increased load.
  
  
• Also, Turbo Timers are somewhat unnecessary for factory turbos. Older Turbos and aftermarket turbos can have a tendency to lock up if they are starved of oil flow when hot. Ball bearing turbos don't have this issue as much, especially when using synthetic oil. Also, most car companies, like Subaru have figured out ways to siphon liquids through the turbos, even after the engine has been shut down. Only 5-10 seconds is really needed.
  
  
• Lastly, I'd imagine the Tundra would be extra motivated NOT to include a factory turbo timer. Main reason: The V8 crowd. I can already hear people complaining "My V8 never had to idle for 2 minutes with my garage door open, this V6 is garbage."
  

BTW check out that article, I'm impressed with all the features:
Cast-iron sleeved aluminum block
Dual Under-piston oil squirters,
Water-cooled intake mani
Sodium Valves, independent valve timing
Dual injection (less concern of carbon buildup)
Independent air-to-water intercoolers for each turbo/bank
10:5 compression F.I.

 

[djevox]

I highly doubt.

• Top reason is here: https://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=192
  "Intercoolers and turbochargers use a separate cooling system with an additional radiator and electric pump."
  So basically, the turbos have the ability to continue cooling after the engine has been shut off. My guess is the Tundra's independent Intercooler/Turbo cooler will probably be a lot beefier than in the Lexus due to the increased load.
  
  
• Also, Turbo Timers are somewhat unnecessary for factory turbos. Older Turbos and aftermarket turbos can have a tendency to lock up if they are starved of oil flow when hot. Ball bearing turbos don't have this issue as much, especially when using synthetic oil. Also, most car companies, like Subaru have figured out ways to siphon liquids through the turbos, even after the engine has been shut down. Only 5-10 seconds is really needed.
  
  
• Lastly, I'd imagine the Tundra would be extra motivated NOT to include a factory turbo timer. Main reason: The V8 crowd. I can already hear people complaining "My V8 never had to idle for 2 minutes with my garage door open, this V6 is garbage."

BTW check out that article, I'm impressed with all the features:
Cast-iron sleeved aluminum block
Dual Under-piston oil squirters,
Water-cooled intake mani
Sodium Valves, independent valve timing
Dual injection (less concern of carbon buildup)
Independent air-to-water intercoolers for each turbo/bank
10:5 compression F.I.

That’s pretty cool, and you nailed the use case on the head- I’ve only installed them on my and customers’ vehicles that have had journal bearing turbos. I would have been pretty surprised if any new light duty passenger vehicles were actually using that style turbo, although, journal bearing turbos are regarded as more reliable. I’ll look at that article, thanks.

 

[IvoryHemi]

Toyota dropped the ball with the new coil suspension. Rear GAWR is only 3,670 lbs?! Why so weak?

 

[djevox]

Toyota dropped the ball with the new coil suspension. Rear GAWR is only 3,670 lbs?! Why so weak?

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Because they want you to buy the T̶U̶R̶D̶ TRD Pro edition