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What? The only thing you got over me was the tri-fold tonneau? That can't weigh that much?
Mine is 1,068 lb. That tonneau doesn't weigh 73 lb. Maybe it's the barn wood :) Or are the body-colored bumpers on yours made of plastic?
 

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Mine is 1,068 lb. That tonneau doesn't weigh 73 lb. Maybe it's the barn wood :) Or are the body-colored bumpers on yours made of plastic?

I did make the mistake of pushing on the side of one of the rear bumpers and was surprised at how far it flexed. Seems like every 10 years or so bumpers get thinner.
Still don't see how there is that much weight difference between our trucks though? I imagine early in production they weight the trucks to determine payload. I hate to think there is that much variation in the manufacturing.
 

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What? The only thing you got over me was the tri-fold tonneau? That can't weigh that much?
Mine is 1,068 lb. That tonneau doesn't weigh 73 lb. Maybe it's the barn wood :) Or are the body-colored bumpers on yours made of plastic?

It is the belt buckles
 

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I did make the mistake of pushing on the side of one of the rear bumpers and was surprised at how far it flexed. Seems like every 10 years or so bumpers get thinner.
Still don't see how there is that much weight difference between our trucks though? I imagine early in production they weight the trucks to determine payload. I hate to think there is that much variation in the manufacturing.
They might just be weighing the base configuration for each trim and conservatively estimating the weight of options. This would result in a Limited (which comes with more standard features than a Longhorn) receiving a higher payload rating than a Longhorn even if identically equipped.
 

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Heres the one for my Rebel. Man, it kinda sucks, but Im sure there is an engineering control/safety factor in there somewhere:sneaky:
 

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They might just be weighing the base configuration for each trim and conservatively estimating the weight of options. This would result in a Limited (which comes with more standard features than a Longhorn) receiving a higher payload rating than a Longhorn even if identically equipped.
This needs to be accurate to within 1 percent of an auto’s actual weight, under Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 110 S10.
Manufacturers submit certified weight figures for every accessory and trim combination.
 

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This needs to be accurate to within 1 percent of an auto’s actual weight, under Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 110 S10.
Manufacturers submit certified weight figures for every accessory and trim combination.
Then for @Edwards and me, the mystery continues...
 

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Then for @Edwards and me, the mystery continues...
Errors have happened. A couple of years ago, Toyota had a recall over errant load labels. Consider getting your truck weighed on a certified scale as a first step, taking into consideration your weight and the weight of anything added.

It would be helpful and interesting to know the official trim and option weights. I wonder where this would be available?
 

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On the 2013 Gen IV Rams, weights for the QC/CC models ranged from 4976 to 5942, a whooping 1000# range. Weight within a single platform (i.e., CC 4x4 5.7) could vary nearly 500# depending on options. I’m sure similar, or even greater. Ranges exist today, given new options such as the heavyweight off road package.
 

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1127 lbs ...
Limited, ramboxes, ORP, pano roof, 3.92, AND 20" wheels. Ugh Screenshot_20181003-071651.png
 
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Here's the weight of the most common options (as near as I can tell till we get more data):

Limited trim - 166lbs
Bed utility group - 25
Level 1 - 86
Advanced safety group - 50
Sunroof - 70
Anti spin - 16
eLocker - 16
3.92 Axle ratio - 0
eTorque - 80
Brake controller - 0 (not full tow package)
Body colored bumpers - 0
22" wheels - 0 (vs 20" standard wheels)
33 gallon fuel tank - 73
Offroad Group - 119 (minus eLocker)
Ramboxes - 163

To test this, start with the payload listed in the towing chart for the 4x4/Crew Cab/Hemi/5'7" bed configuration (1800lbs). Then subtract the weight of each option to get to the number on your payload sticker.
Hey @Zeronet this is just plain awesome. With the added Laramie and Bighorn data, is there any chance you’ve had time to isolate Laramie trim/Lvl 1/Lvl 2/Sport, and BigHorn trim/Lvl 1/Lvl 2/Sport? I grabbed some more info today, including:

1305 Laramie Lvl 1 CC 5’7” Hemi (Starts at 1840)
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFJT1KN552761

1579 BigHorn Lvl 1 CC 5’7” eT Hemi (Starts at 1780)
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFFT2KN619523

1698 BigHorn Lvl 1 QC 6’4” Hemi (Starts at 1970)
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFBT9KN620710

A CT Dealer here claims to have this 1575 Laramie Sport Lvl 2 CC 5’7” (starts at 1840) but I’ll believe it when I see it... the door sticker that is!
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFJT5KN586301
 
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Hey @Zeronet this is just plain awesome. With the added Laramie and Bighorn data, is there any chance you’ve had time to isolate Laramie trim/Lvl 1/Lvl 2/Sport, and BigHorn trim/Lvl 1/Lvl 2/Sport? I grabbed some more info today, including:

1305 Laramie Lvl 1 CC 5’7” Hemi (Starts at 1840)
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFJT1KN552761

1579 BigHorn Lvl 1 CC 5’7” eT Hemi (Starts at 1780)
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFFT2KN619523

1698 BigHorn Lvl 1 QC 6’4” Hemi (Starts at 1970)
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFBT9KN620710

A CT Dealer here claims to have this 1575 Laramie Sport Lvl 2 CC 5’7” (starts at 1840) but I’ll believe it when I see it... the door sticker that is!
https://www.chrysler.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6SRFJT5KN586301
It was fairly complicated to get the weights on the Limited, and the Limited has WAY fewer options than the other trims. If I get some time I will try to put something together. There’s a lot of data out there so maybe not as hard now. When I did the Limited there wasn’t much data at that time.
 
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I know it always seems like we are always telling people to do something. Post your specs in your signature, post pictures and a story of your truck in member truck section, take our polls, post your payload sticker.

Well, if anyone has the chance, at either a stone and mulch dealer, at a certified scale, or anywhere else, please get a weight of one of these trucks.

The fleet guide tries to give this info, but it is so vague it is hard to base anything off of.

I am very glad to see all the people that have helped with this info, and glad some people learned something, and some got good use out of the information.

Thanks to all.
 

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just Curious if any one has ordered a Build sheet for your truck from FCA customer service? I ordered my truck then ordered a build sheet after I pick up my truck. It will tell you every thing about the truck.
 

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Well, if anyone has the chance, at either a stone and mulch dealer, at a certified scale, or anywhere else, please get a weight of one of these trucks.
Great minds DD... I am planning to do that with the Laramie I ordered today to confirm my actual vs posted payload.

@Zeronet if you want to, let me know your method and I can try some of the leg work. With a few door and window stickers, and some time ;), should be solvable. Any math whizzes out there who like to do matrix solutions?
 

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Great minds DD... I am planning to do that with the Laramie I ordered today to confirm my actual vs posted payload.

@Zeronet if you want to, let me know your method and I can try some of the leg work. With a few door and window stickers, and some time ;), should be solvable. Any math whizzes out there who like to do matrix solutions?
If I were to try and calculate the Laramie trim for example I would do the following:
- consider only trucks where you can view the payload sticker and window sticker since not everyone lists ALL their options in their signature.
-consider only trucks with the same cab/engine/bed length/drivetrain (ie 4x4)
-build a spreadsheet with each truck on a separate row and each option in a separate column
-get the base payload from the payload chart for the cab/engine/bed configuration selected (I would use the one on the ram website, not the one posted on this site)
-insert the payload number from the payload sticker for each truck
-look for trucks that are similarly optioned except for one or two options, the difference in the payload stickers will give you the weight of that option
-enter the weight of the determined option for each truck that has that option
-then create a formula that subtracts the weight of each option from the base payload from the payload chart
-once you have determined the weight of each option you can deduce the weight of the actual Trim level itself

Simple huh?
 

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