What did you do to your Ram today???

[Dogpatch]

I got them from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HFBLNRY?ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details&th=1

I have +0 offset wheels, too, just so you know.

Husky Mud Guards are the bomb! I have the same set on my Limited.

 

[J-barcarp]

Tow hook bezel

Yup

im doing the bezel for the sensors too,
but no pics till i know i approve of my work.

 

[Mister 4x4]

Admired it sitting in the driveway. Oh, and redrew a new avatar since it's been raining all day.

 

[Chopperbobby]

Took to dealer. Engine light fought running shimmering while idle. Code 0300 misfire. Just over a year old

 

[ferraiolo1]

“I’ll have a 12 pack and drive. It’ll be fine, I’ve been doing it for 20 years.“ It doesn’t make it right.

Have you personally ran spacers and had issues? Or are you just regurgitation crap you read online?

Because in the real work there are very few issues with people running them correctly..

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[BowDown]

It’s no worse than having wheels with a more negative offset. As long as you get hubcentric good quality spacers you’re fine. Dually Rams run spacers (adapters) from the factory and are rated to tow 35000lbs. He’ll be fine. However I would suggest getting 1/2” longer wheel studs to make up for the 1/2” of threads you’ll be sacrificing.

Wheels with negative offsets isn't the same, those Wheels are not moving the bearing load further away from the bearing, spacers do.

There's failed spacer posts everywhere

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Installation 1.25" Thick Hub Centric Wheel Spacer 1994 LC with FF axles

I am surprised I still have these on my computer from 2004. The space stayed with the wheel. Not trying to derail thread but like others stated its all about knowing your adding more maintenance with spacers. Know plenty of guys running them without any issues for years.

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[lkjk]

Wheels with negative offsets isn't the same, those Wheels are not moving the bearing load further away from the bearing, spacers do.

I think you would get more leverage on the bearing since you are moving the load 2", or whatever your spacer width is, further out. So true they are not the same as messing with the offet on rims.

Wheel spacers obviously are "less safe" than just a rim because you're adding in another failure point (wheel studs, bolts) this is just a fact.

That said, I run wheel spacers on my ram, and have on previous vehicles with no issues, and don't believe the hype about them being dangerous. Use loctite, torque to spec, and not really a worry. In theory, true about the wheel bearings, but no way to actually measure the impact, but i would assume its immaterial, especially if your truck only sees pavement, which are 99% of them on here, including mine.

 

[SKT Customs]

Wheels with negative offsets isn't the same, those Wheels are not moving the bearing load further away from the bearing, spacers do.

There's failed spacer posts everywhere

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Installation 1.25" Thick Hub Centric Wheel Spacer 1994 LC with FF axles

I am surprised I still have these on my computer from 2004. The space stayed with the wheel. Not trying to derail thread but like others stated its all about knowing your adding more maintenance with spacers. Know plenty of guys running them without any issues for years.

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You actually are moving the weight further out with negative offset. Same reason 14” wide wheels put way more strain than 9” wide wheels.

 

[brenan00]

Very nice!

I ordered a used, like new condition set off Amazon for $25 as a test for buying something that was returned. I’m expecting I’ll have to return them for a new set, but it will be a pleasant surprise if there’s nothing wrong with them.

I just did the same thing, for exactly the same reason. I got a bug deflector regularly 147 for 12, it was fine just not in an original package. I don't even know if I will use it but for 12 bucks.

 

[Srob85]

I just had my windshield replaced, drove for a week without ceramic tint in 100°+ weather, after re-tint there was a huge difference in heat coming through the windshield. The top of my hand would get hot on the steering wheel prior, not at all after

Im in Frisco as well, where did you have it done at? And how much did is cost to get front done?

 

[21RamBigHornBlk]

Had to move my trailer to prepare for this winter. I generally set it back out of the way during the winter to avoid snow blowing around it

 

[ferraiolo1]

Wheels with negative offsets isn't the same, those Wheels are not moving the bearing load further away from the bearing, spacers do.

There's failed spacer posts everywhere

Toyota-4Runner.org

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www.toyota-4runner.org

Installation 1.25" Thick Hub Centric Wheel Spacer 1994 LC with FF axles

I am surprised I still have these on my computer from 2004. The space stayed with the wheel. Not trying to derail thread but like others stated its all about knowing your adding more maintenance with spacers. Know plenty of guys running them without any issues for years.

forum.ih8mud.com

Usually those are from cheap Chinese spacers, or improper installation/torque. Lugs don’t just sheer off.

A quality hub centric spacer doesn’t have those issues. BORA spacers are a good example, expensive but not known to fail.

And yes wheels with a large negative offset are similar when it comes to added stress on the bearings. That’s why guys with -44 and x14 wheels blow to bearings faster than those without.


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[MannyN]

Wheels with negative offsets isn't the same, those Wheels are not moving the bearing load further away from the bearing, spacers do.

There's failed spacer posts everywhere

Toyota-4Runner.org

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Installation 1.25" Thick Hub Centric Wheel Spacer 1994 LC with FF axles

I am surprised I still have these on my computer from 2004. The space stayed with the wheel. Not trying to derail thread but like others stated its all about knowing your adding more maintenance with spacers. Know plenty of guys running them without any issues for years.

forum.ih8mud.com

That is just nonsense. The bearing load is the same, as you move the rolling resistance outward, with offset or spacer. The rolling resistance is in the same place. Just physics.

 

[djevox]

That is just nonsense. The bearing load is the same, as you move the rolling resistance outward, with offset or spacer. The rolling resistance is in the same place. Just physics.

While I don’t agree at all with statements like lug studs don’t sheer off and some other comments (all bolts/studs will fail if sheer limit is reached), they are correct about the increased bearing stress. It’s time to inject some science into this convo.

Moog talks about offsets and bearings

In the above, Moog mentions positive offset. I hope people can read between the lines and see the coorelation. Negative offset would have the inverse effect and place more stress on the inner bearing.

 

[Andymax]

Had to move my trailer to prepare for this winter. I generally set it back out of the way during the winter to avoid snow blowing around it

Is that a Worthington trailer? Wow, mine looks exactly the same...all aluminum, black, same diamond plate, etc.

 

[MannyN]

While I don’t agree at all with statements like lug studs don’t sheer off and some other comments (all bolts/studs will fail if sheer limit is reached), they are correct about the increased bearing stress. It’s time to inject some science into this convo.

Moog talks about offsets and bearings

In the above, Moog mentions positive offset. I hope people can read between the lines and see the coorelation. Negative offset would have the inverse effect and place more stress on the inner bearing.

Like I said, the bearing load is the same, if you move the wheel out with offset or spacer, it's in the same position.

 

[djevox]

Like I said, the bearing load is the same, if you move the wheel out with offset or spacer, it's in the same position.

Oh, I see what you’re saying. You’re only talking about load. I thought you were saying that but really meant stress. Yeah, I’m with you on that.

 

[ferraiolo1]

While I don’t agree at all with statements like lug studs don’t sheer off and some other comments (all bolts/studs will fail if sheer limit is reached).

Meaning it wasn’t the fault of the installing a spacer itself. when bolts sheer off spacers, it’s usually due to improper tq, cheap spacers using sub par lugs, or non hub centric spacers.

The whole blanket statement of “spacers are bad” has been disproven many many times. Rarely do they fail out of the blue if you’re using a quality product, like anything else out there.


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[djevox]

Meaning it wasn’t the fault of the installing a spacer itself. when bolts sheer off spacers, it’s usually due to improper tq, cheap spacers using sub par lugs, or non hub centric spacers.

The whole blanket statement of “spacers are bad” has been disproven many many times. Rarely do they fail out of the blue if you’re using a quality product, like anything else out there.


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I agree they’re not going to fail under normal conditions. It’s when operating under extreme stress that goes outside the intended design that will cause issues. That’s why I mentioned drag racing and maximal towing loads in one of my first posts. Again, I’m mentioning outside of design specs. I bet 99.999% of people will be fine. I’ve never had a spacer failure, but I operate within design specs.

 

[MannyN]

That's why I don't trust Aluminum spacers, they are to soft, especially when you press a steel stud into Aluminum. Aluminum will erode and the stud can come loose, that's the failure.