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Start of 2023 Production
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BackCountry'sBadass
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Hang in there bro. Mine was ordered on Sep.15, didn't show any movement till Nov. 16th. These past few days have gone fast and furious. Waiting for a ride from Detroit now.
Armydad72
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Happ birthday. Mine is also my birthday gift so hoping delivery on 14 Jan but delivery says 17 Jan.The new truck is actually for my wife and it’s her birthday today. Wish we’re taking delivery but I will settle for scheduled.
BackCountry'sBadass
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Mine shows a 'In Production' date of 12-10, 'Vehicle built' date of 12-14. I'm going with 12-12-22 . Happy medium -looks COOL too!
Wait, i think they gave you my truck. Not fair.
Hang in there man. I ordered mine on Sept 3 and it just went to D1 today. It was also a Laramie
Helpfuldad
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Commiserating with those still waiting on deck for ANY action...maybe we should start writing those letters to Santa.
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Not true. Look at post #473.
No *Class IV* hitch on Rebel's standard. Have to pay extra for that now, which is indeed stingy given the base price increases.
We're still getting Class III bumper hitches (I'm same as you, Rebel with poverty spec hitch)
For the added cost of the Class IV, I'm more than happy to put my own Curt or Draw-Tite on for half that, RAM can get bent on that one.
bikemancs
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Interesting... Could you link me to something that details that?Correct. All 2023 5.7 Hemis are eTorque.
But what a lot of folks seem not to know/realize is, they've removed the Start/Stop feature of previous years.
So it's mainly just there to act as an "e-Diesel" now.
IMO, all the benefits of the off-the-line torque boost without the annoying *** Start/Stop.
Which should also save some wear and tear on it. Bonus.
Yes true. I was sitting there looking at the 2023 order configurator with the Dealer when we built mine.
There was NO non-eTorque option available. Which is also what RAM has published.
Which means one of three possibilities:
1. Those are the last of the 2022s on your chart, not 2023s.
2. Since late September, for some unknown reason, in some unknown place, some non-eTorque availability was offered. Somehow.
3. Someone opened a wormhole.
bikemancs
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Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
I don't have a link, it's what two different Dealers told me in September, and sure enough "Start/Stop" lingo was dropped from 2023 POCs I received (2022s used to say "Start/Stop".)
I'd also seen this mentioned a few other places.
But... curveball... I just checked my Window Sticker and it says "w/ Stop/Start", so now I don't know what to think, honestly.
Guess I'll find out what's true when it shows up... dang.
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I can assure that they’re 2023’s. Here's an example of a Rebel that was produced today. Overall, there have been 541 trucks (2023, with 5.7L Hemi, non-eTorque) produced so far.Yes true. I was sitting there looking at the 2023 order configurator with the Dealer when we built mine.
There was NO non-eTorque option available. Which is also what RAM has published.
Which means one of three possibilities:
1. Those are the last of the 2022s on your chart, not 2023s.
2. Since late September, for some unknown reason, in some unknown place, some non-eTorque availability was offered. Somehow.
3. Someone opened a wormhole.
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Wooooo!!! I can officially join you in celebrating! Finally something.
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Yep. I believe you.
But, given what I've witnessed firsthand, and numerous media outlets reporting for months now that eTorque is Standard on the 2023 HEMI... and many other members across other forums and fb groups saying the same thing...
My question to you now, given all of the info and things you're plugged into, is:
Can you explain this apparent discrepancy at all?
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What I found last year is that there are certain dealers who can order options that others can’t. For example, when power folding mirrors were restricted (forcing Level B instead of Level 2), some people were still able to order Level 2.Yep. I believe you.
But, given what I've witnessed firsthand, and numerous media outlets reporting for months now that eTorque is Standard on the 2023 HEMI... and many other members across other forums and fb groups saying the same thing...
My question to you now, given all of the info and things you're plugged into, is:
Can you explain this apparent discrepancy at all?
Wormhole?
So there appears to be no single hard rule when it comes to ordering.
HazMatt
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At least you all get Pizza Trackers to look at. I just get disappointment and shame.
I hear ya. That was more due to chip shortage though, not an "official" product offering (i.e., there was no 'B' when that mess started, it got created as a way of dealing with the problem).
This is a little bit different. Not sure why the automotive press and everyone else is saying eTorque standard, if it isn't actually.
Unless... I wonder if what's really going on here is "eTorque delete".
As in, yeah it's "Standard", but a customer is jumping up and down that they don't want blankety-blank eTorque, dealer calls factory rep in a panic, and they tell them about the "hidden eTorque delete" option... and the sale is saved.
In which case, nobody's wrong
