Price negotiated from MSRP

[RedFred]

That's where I'm at. I love my '21 Rebel but want a bigger bed and bigger fuel tank. I haven't found a single truck with the 33 gallon tank. Haven't been looking real hard, but have yet to see one on a lot when I do.

Some dealers I already know before looking at their inventory that they almost never have any with the 33 gallon tank. I guess it's the way they do their ordering. The dealership closest to me never has any while some other dealerships I look at would always have a few of their trucks optioned with the larger fuel tank. Both of the 1500's I owned, had the larger tank. Last thing I want is to go to a smaller tank. And now with the e-torque engines, many of the trucks are coming with the even smaller 23 gallon tank.

 

[RedFred]

That's where I'm at. I love my '21 Rebel but want a bigger bed and bigger fuel tank. I haven't found a single truck with the 33 gallon tank. Haven't been looking real hard, but have yet to see one on a lot when I do.

Also, according to posts up above, you won't be finding any 33 gallon optioned trucks on the lots soon, as it will become a custom order option only.

 

[disarm]

I share your sentiments. I have been frustrated with dealers near me in the NJ area. So much so, that I am actually starting to consider other trucks or suv's.

I couldn't get anyone local in CT to give me a reasonable offer on a Limited order, so I reached out to Mark Dodge (LA) and Koons (VA) on Friday...had nearly identical offers back from both within 20 minutes. When I passed those numbers on to a local dealer (saying only that it was from someone out of state), he said he would lose $3k if he sold a truck for that price and wished me luck. Now I just need to pick one of those two and pull the trigger.

For a Limited order, MD is straight up 12.5% off MSRP as others have said, and Koons gives you 6.2% off invoice price right now. Both also offer a further discount for affiliates (Tread Lightly), another 1% for MD and 1.5% for Koons.

If you really want a Ram and live in the northeast, it's really a no brainer to give up shopping locally.

 

[RedFred]

If you really want a Ram and live in the northeast, it's really a no brainer to give up shopping locally.

That is the sad truth. And it's not just Ram dealers in the northeast either. Went shopping for my wife last week, we looked at a fully loaded Kia Telluride. MSRP was $54k and local dealer had it marked up an additional $7k, so price was $61k. Meanwhile in other parts of the country, dealers are selling the same car with no markup.

 

[Drew87]

That is the sad truth. And it's not just Ram dealers in the northeast either. Went shopping for my wife last week, we looked at a fully loaded Kia Telluride. MSRP was $54k and local dealer had it marked up an additional $7k, so price was $61k. Meanwhile in other parts of the country, dealers are selling the same car with no markup.

We just bought a KIA Sorento for my wife at MSRP from Jim Butler Kia here is St. Louis. They sell all cars at MSRP. They gave us the highest trade value for my wife's Lexus out of about 7 dealerships.

 

[7VII7]

Koons and Mark Dodge are doing 2024 models now. Does anyone know if these are redesign or same ol same ol?

 

[RedFred]

Koons and Mark Dodge are doing 2024 models now. Does anyone know if these are redesign or same ol same ol?

Same old, same old is correct. 2025 should bring some kind of refresh at least.

 

[Roddog2220]

doesnt look like any new incentives in july

 

[AnthonyRI]

doesnt look like any new incentives in july

July not released yet.

 

[Whete’swaldo]

July not released yet.

You still think they will be released today?

 

[disarm]

Koons and Mark Dodge are doing 2024 models now. Does anyone know if these are redesign or same ol same ol?

Same and MD told me production won't be starting until August. If you order now, it will be a 2024 and at least 4-5 weeks before there's even a chance of starting the build process.

 

[Roddog2220]

anyone check on how sales were or are?

 

[AnthonyRI]

You still think they will be released today?

Bighorns will have expanded 10% off standalone (instock, no lease) from Ram now expanded to cover V8 and V6 (last month was V6 only)
Laramie's got a little better stack on incentives but still depends on your region
Both have a 2.9% APR option
(This is all for instock 2023s, not 24 orders)

Will post up more detail when they're actually published tomorrow, seems today was just verbal

 

[RedFred]

anyone check on how sales were or are?

Quarter 2 numbers were almost identical to Q2 last year. 2023- 117,700 vs 2022- 117,868.
Year to date, 2023- 223,050 vs 2022- 244,984

2023 U.S Pickup Truck Sales Figures By Model (With Rankings)

Automotive Sales Data and Statistics

www.goodcarbadcar.net

 

[7VII7]

Quarter 2 numbers were almost identical to Q2 last year. 2023- 117,700 vs 2022- 117,868.
Year to date, 2023- 223,050 vs 2022- 244,984

2023 U.S Pickup Truck Sales Figures By Model (With Rankings)

Automotive Sales Data and Statistics

www.goodcarbadcar.net

And hopefully dealerships take note

 

[Roddog2220]

i would think sales being the same would be a good sign for dealers

 

[Whete’swaldo]

i would think sales being the same would be a good sign for dealers

I don’t know if this applies to Ram trucks but I’ve heard fleet sales are way up but standard retail sales are off a good bit across the board.

 

[RedFred]

Local dealer has a truck optioned exactly like I would want it. Being in NJ, there is no shot at getting a decent deal so most likely I pass on even trying.

 

[poopoo]

I am pretty new this forum and first time purchase truck. Is this a good deal?
2023 Big Horn Crew 4x4 Base Price: $52,420, MSRP: $61,850
SALE PRICE: $47,350 tax 7% $3,315 TTL, reg, and doc fee: $695 OTD $51,360

 

[RedFred]

I am pretty new this forum and first time purchase truck. Is this a good deal?
2023 Big Horn Crew 4x4 Base Price: $52,420, MSRP: $61,850
SALE PRICE: $47,350 tax 7% $3,315 TTL, reg, and doc fee: $695 OTD $51,360

All we need is MSRP and sale price. Looks like you are getting 23.5% off. That sounds pretty good to me. I say go for it.