MPG!!

[SpeedyV]

They have the looks inside and out and the ride that is for sure. I would love to drop the 5.0 in my Ram. It would really wake this truck up!

Or a 6.4L? Unfortunately, I wouldn’t have any payload left...

 

[Mr. Chow]

Bottom Line Enjoy your Truck don't Worry about MPG, yes if you are way off the AVG for multiple tanks then check it out.
So still waiting on my truck, but I have owned 2 previous Tundras over the last 10 years with the 5.7. Everything is a trade off. If you drive a 1500 in any make getting an Avg of 18 is all you should expected. If you are getting better than 20, awesome feel blessed. .Just like towing you should expect 9-10. 1mpg or 2 mpg difference does not really matter.
YOU BOUGHT A 1500 Series TRUCK. The only complaint I could see is if a dealership didn't worn you that to get the Max Tow your going to sacrifice fuel economy, surprise every 1500 series hides these numbers via *or ** to boost their number. Not a single make has their Max tow configuration the same as their best MPG, yet. BTW no Limited,Platinum, etc will be the max tow or best mpg.

WAY too many variables to calculate(Elevation/Locations, Fuel rating, Fuel Quality, Wind, Temp, Passengers, Humidity, Tires, Your Right Foot, Your Left Foot, Etc)
So lets do some simple math. Assuming a 33 gal tank, 12,000 miles a year(I know a lot of people stick more on it)
Gas price $3(suck it if you live in Calli ) = $99 a tank
Truck A - Avg MPG 22 = 726 miles per tank = 16.5 Fills = $1636 a year to drive
Truck B - Avg MPG 20= 660 MPT = 18.2 Fills = $1800 a year
Truck C - Avg MPG 18 = 594 MPT = 20 Fills = $2000 a year
Truck D - Avg MPG 16 = 528 MPT = 22.7 Fills = $2250
Truck E - Avg MPG 14 = 462 MPT = 22.9 Fills = $2571
So the Delta between best to worst = $935 Over a Year = ~$78 a Month
Delta between 2MPG ~ $182 Over a Year = ~$15 a Month(Guess your Not going to Starbucks Twice)
Truck F(Tow) Avg MPG 9 = 297 MPT = 40.4 Fills = $4000 Don't tow all the time or buy a HD

This is nothing more then to stop the I get 20, but I get 21, well I get 19. Again Bottom Line,
ENJOY THIS AWESOME TRUCK

 

[Rustydodge]

Eco is stupid. The 5.0 in the f150 gets far better mpg, sounds better, definitely quicker and doesn’t use the eco crap. It just doesnt make much sense why a brand new truck with this technology can’t get better mileage. The Rams are still way heavier than both GM and Ford I believe. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it.

2015 - 2018 F150 5.0 = 16.3 AVG mpg (nearly 500 trucks over around 7 million miles)
2015 - 2018 Ram 5.7 = 15.5 AVG mpg (nearly 800 trucks over around 11 milltion miles)
2019 Ram 5.7 etorque = 16.6 AVG mpg ( 1 truck over 4000 miles)

So an average of 0.8 MPG better vs 4th gen. 5th gens are all really too new to compare. Computers need to learn. Only 1 etorque reporting on Fuelly to provide hand calculated comparison.

Sound is subjective - i prefer the hemi.

2018 Trucktrend pickup truck of the year had a Ram 1500 harvest edition vs F150 Platinum 5.0. F150 was faster 0-60 but 1/4 times however were nearly identical when loaded.

The 5.0 is moving less weight, as you mention. Considering each has comparable power output, it makes sense for the 5.7 to get slightly less MPG and be slightly slower 0-60.

I like the 5.0, but not the rest of the truck it comes with.

 

[craigrh13]

2015 - 2018 F150 5.0 = 16.3 AVG mpg (nearly 500 trucks over around 7 million miles)
2015 - 2018 Ram 5.7 = 15.5 AVG mpg (nearly 800 trucks over around 11 milltion miles)
2019 Ram 5.7 etorque = 16.6 AVG mpg ( 1 truck over 4000 miles)

So an average of 0.8 MPG better vs 4th gen. 5th gens are all really too new to compare. Computers need to learn. Only 1 etorque reporting on Fuelly to provide hand calculated comparison.

Sound is subjective - i prefer the hemi.

2018 Trucktrend pickup truck of the year had a Ram 1500 harvest edition vs F150 Platinum 5.0. F150 was faster 0-60 but 1/4 times however were nearly identical when loaded.

The 5.0 is moving less weight, as you mention. Considering each has comparable power output, it makes sense for the 5.7 to get slightly less MPG and be slightly slower 0-60.

I like the 5.0, but not the rest of the truck it comes with.

All I have to compare is my 2015 vs my 2019 Ram. Same daily drive and the f150 with the 5.0 was significantly more efficient and as far as get up and go the 5.0 was much quicker. It just felt really light on its feet. Put that sucker in sport mode and it was a rocket to drive.

 

[John813]

All I have to compare is my 2015 vs my 2019 Ram. Same daily drive and the f150 with the 5.0 was significantly more efficient and as far as get up and go the 5.0 was much quicker. It just felt really light on its feet. Put that sucker in sport mode and it was a rocket to drive.

I wish Ram would of put a sport mode button in these trucks. While the 8 speed is quick to know what you are trying to accomplish, the sport mode really makes a difference.

Driving even a trackhawk between regular and sport mode it makes the truck feel much peppier off the line/accelerating.

 

[craigrh13]

I wish Ram would of put a sport mode button in these trucks. While the 8 speed is quick to know what you are trying to accomplish, the sport mode really makes a difference.

Driving even a trackhawk between regular and sport mode it makes the truck feel much peppier off the line/accelerating.

Oh yes! Sport mode in this Ram would really wake her up.

 

[Rustydodge]

All I have to compare is my 2015 vs my 2019 Ram. Same daily drive and the f150 with the 5.0 was significantly more efficient and as far as get up and go the 5.0 was much quicker. It just felt really light on its feet. Put that sucker in sport mode and it was a rocket to drive.

No question they are lighter trucks, and feel that way as a result. In my research based on F150 fleet guides, If you had a non-tow package, non payload package F150, with the shorter, more common wheelbases you probably had a thinner, lighter frame and a smaller, lighter rear axle. Ford has multiple frame strengths and multiple rear axles and as a result, multiple GVWR whereas Ram does not do this.

Heck just compare how heavy the front tow hooks are (Ram 1500 weight = 22 lbs while F150 = 4 lbs per Amazon listed shipping weight). And a plastic transfer case skid plates vs steel on Ram.... Compare the rear bumper sizes...

Not trying to Ford bash but they've gone a little overboard on the weight reduction strategy. Ram has not, and I'm happy about that.

 

[768mph]

In the beginning, I was getting 14.5-15 mpg with mine as well. But as the mileage increased, currently at 900 Miles, I’m at 17.5mpg. Mostly city.

I did add Chevron Techron and Seafoam mix to my tank and not sure if it’s a coincidence but my mileage jumped significantly about that time.

I’ll add a CAI, Exhaust and full synthetic oil when it’s time and it should improve.

My old 16 Ram sport 3.92 did 16.5-17 mpg with same area and driving. So it’s ahead of the game already.

 

[356]

Filled up again today. 20.9 mpg doing the math (dash showed 21.8). Since new, 20.7 mpg (dash shows 21.2). 100% of this fill was my 60 mile round trip commute which involves highway (60%), city (25%) and gravel roads (15%). I’m driving for mileage, so keeping at the speed limit, avoiding hard stops and rapid acceleration.

 

[craigrh13]

Took the same trip that my 5.0 f150 got over 25 mpg on today. I kept the cruise at 60. My 19 Laramie truck averaged 21.9. Wtf? 4 years newer and can’t come close to the mpg’s of the 5.0 and it’s slower. Crazy.

 

[Mr. Chow]

Took the same trip that my 5.0 f150 got over 25 mpg on today. I kept the cruise at 60. My 19 Laramie truck averaged 21.9. Wtf? 4 years newer and can’t come close to the mpg’s of the 5.0 and it’s slower. Crazy.

What was the F150 gear ratio? What is your current trucks gear ratio and engine type? Sametime of year? Both Same cabs? Both Same tire Size? Both 4x4? Is your 2019 broke it? Both around the same weight? Just curious cause every one of the variables plays into MPG.

 

[craigrh13]

What was the F150 gear ratio? What is your current trucks gear ratio and engine type? Sametime of year? Both Same cabs? Both Same tire Size? Both 4x4? Is your 2019 broke it? Both around the same weight? Just curious cause everyone of the variables plays into MPG.

I’m well aware of the variables. My f150 had 3.55 gears and Nitto g2 tires. Same time of the year, both crew cabs. Obviously the Ford was lighter as the Rams are absolute pigs compared to Ford and GM. My Ram has the 3.21 gears and stock highway tires. My Ram has just under 4K miles on it.

 

[TVS1461]

I have just over 1,000 miles on my 2019 5.7 Hemi. 4x2. I was getting 22mpg on the highway with cruise set at 70 for my 45 mile commute each way. I added a Line-X tonneau when I got the color matched bed liner. Cruise set at 70 i'm getting 24. Drop it down to 65 its almost 26 on the computer. This is in southwest Florida where the steepest hill is the ramp into the parking lot at work.

 

[Wxgs333]

I wish Ram would of put a sport mode button in these trucks. While the 8 speed is quick to know what you are trying to accomplish, the sport mode really makes a difference.

Driving even a trackhawk between regular and sport mode it makes the truck feel much peppier off the line/accelerating.

Oh yes! Sport mode in this Ram would really wake her up.

Read somewhere else that the "tow/haul" mode would perform similarly to a "sport" mode in terms of trans shifting. Even though the engine rev response doesn't become more agile, this still may give a slightly faster feeling.

 

[356]

Just returned from a trip to the cabin (400 miles round trip) and averaged 21.4 mpg for this fuel-up, which was about 500 miles. The truck was about half loaded (weight wise) and had an 8' ladder hanging over the tailgate, which likely increased drag. This is the first time the dash readout and the math were the same. This is the best mpg yet, with 21 mpg since new as my current average. 90% highway, 10% light city, mostly 65-70 mph, headwinds or no wind. I know this won't last when I start towing, but its nice to see the potential of Gen 5 Hemi, which is about 1-2 mpg higher than my Gen 4 with the 4.7 and six speed.

 

[MopaRAMan]

I have averaged approximately 19.5 MPG on my last three tanks with about 75% hi-way/interstate. The first three tanks or so I could only manage 15-16 with brief full throttle at hiway speeds. I'm currently at 2600 miles.

I noticed this truck runs in ECO mode much more often now at medium consistent speeds than it would with less than 1000 miles on the odometer. This truck waits a second or two after reaching steady speed and pedal pressure before ECO mode is activated. It also waits several seconds before ECO engages after letting off and coasting. My 12' instantly went into ECO mode if I lifted or reached steady state. I prefer the newer truck behavior since it is more responsive, but I feel it hurts in town mileage a bit. On the highway, the 19' stays up in the low 20s, but it only musters about 12-13 in town.

I also found an issue with the trip info MPG. Trip A MPG appears accurate, but trip B MPG matches my trip A mileage. Trip B has never been reset. Has anyone else seen this behavior?

 

[rdz418]

My Ram is getting 999.9 mpg ( since it hasn't been built and the engine is sitting in a crate somewhere). Since some want to compare apples to oranges, my 2018 Ford Raptor, with the 3.5L V6 HO, 10 speed tranny, start/stop and 4300 miles is only getting 13.2 avg., mixed driving.

 

[356]

I also found an issue with the trip info MPG. Trip A MPG appears accurate, but trip B MPG matches my trip A mileage. Trip B has never been reset. Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Until Trip B is reset, it should match Trip A as both should be reading MPG since new.

 

[356]

All I have to compare is my 2015 vs my 2019 Ram. Same daily drive and the f150 with the 5.0 was significantly more efficient and as far as get up and go the 5.0 was much quicker. It just felt really light on its feet. Put that sucker in sport mode and it was a rocket to drive.

Your post got me thinking. I’ve had three trucks since we bought our cabin. 400 mile round trip, approximately every 3 weeks.

• ‘99 F-150 regular cab 4x4, V6 5-speed manual, 18.2 mpg
• ‘12 Ram QC 4x4, 4.7 V8, 3.21, 18.4 mpg
• ‘19 Ram QC 4x4 Hemi 3.21, 20.9 mpg

 

[Rustydodge]

Took the same trip that my 5.0 f150 got over 25 mpg on today. I kept the cruise at 60. My 19 Laramie truck averaged 21.9. Wtf? 4 years newer and can’t come close to the mpg’s of the 5.0 and it’s slower. Crazy.

That trip was, statistically, an outlier. If you were going by the EVIC, then that number means nothing for both trucks.

Fuelly Ford F150 data for model year 2015 vehicles with the 5.0:
"Based on data from 150 vehicles, 7,464 fuel-ups and 2,749,667 miles of driving, the 2015 Ford F-150 gets a combined Avg MPG of 15.93 with a 0.05 MPG margin of error."

I'll also refer you to trucktrend.com pickup truck of the year competition, which had a 2018 Ram 1500 Harvest edition 5.7L w/ 3.92 (33" tires) vs a 2018 Ford F150 Platinum 5.0L w/ 3.55 (32" tires).

• The Ford was 400 lbs lighter empty, 0.3 sec faster 0-60, .4 sec faster 1/4 mile
• With added payload to each trucks rating, the ford was about 100 lbs heavier, 0.2 sec faster 0-60, tied in the 1/4 mile (actually the Ford was 0.02 sec slower)
• When towing, the ford was 400 lbs lighter, 0.5 sec faster 0-60, 0.4 sec faster 1/4 mile.

And guess what, the Ram 5.7 beat the Ford 5.0 by over 2 MPG in their highway fuel economy run (21.65 vs 19.23). It even beat the 3.6 Colorado that was in the same comparison.

They have the looks inside and out and the ride that is for sure. I would love to drop the 5.0 in my Ram. It would really wake this truck up!

Ram is not known for aggressive programming for the sake of good 0-60 times, and are relatively conservative on their torque management strategy. The 6 speed behind your 2015 5.0 was a pretty good trans. But if you think dropping a 5.0 in your Ram will have much of an impact, I'd reconsider. As you can see from the trucktrend comparison, performance is pretty similar with equal weight. And if the tires would have been the same outer diameter, probably identical.

If you would like more of a sporty feel, I've heard Pedal Commander is a good way to do it.