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How big have you towed? w/Pics no tricks!

Neurobit said:
80,000 lbs. I have to find the pics. They're here somewhere... :p
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1578432841637.png Too heavy? Nahh, it can do it.


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Hey it's an f150... an F100 couldn't tow it but mines heavy duty.
 
How did you like towing the Jeep? I have a 4 door JKUR that I want to tow through mountains, Colorado, Moab, etc from Texas .


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Somehow I knew this thread was going to slide into the never-ending overweight wars.

So this is my contribution - a humble request to keep this thread on topic and just post pics of trailers. If you want to debate GVWR tow ratings there are so many other threads to discuss this on. I, as others I'm sure, would like to enjoy some truck/trailer porn!

I digress...........here is the only trailer I've towed with the 1500 so far (i know, bad pic but I wanted to post something LOL).
 

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the wanderer said:
I can't make heads or tails out of that document, looks like a lot of repeating rows in there with the same data. What does appear to be consistent is that the 3.6 has less GVWR than the hemi, which again has less than the ED. I couldn't tell you why, but it would probably be a mistake to assume you can just ignore your own payload sticker. So I don't see how this document changes the argument any; his truck is rated for payload of X, and he is (by his own admission) over that.

And admittedly I missed that post where he posted his hitch weight.

So... He's been to the scales, done the math, and stated in the same post: "I know I'm overweight". That just makes it worse, frankly.

It's extremely obvious that his truck is not big enough. I don't even know why we're discussing this. Personally I wouldn't even go past 85% of the limit (both payload + GCVWR, but that's just me. Again keep in mind how competitive this field is, and how these manufacturers were fibbing the numbers on towing just a few years ago before settling on the current standard. If there was any (safe) way to make the trucks look bigger and more powerful, they definitely would. So going past the limits should never be encouraged or hand-waved away.

If you have the money to do this, to buy a new truck and pull a good 5th wheel, you have the money to do it properly. So maybe buy a used 2500/3500 instead of a new 1500, or get a lower trimmed model etc etc. There is no excuse for it.

The cowboy's on this thread are going to hurt somebody one day.
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He also stated that the trailer weighed 8429 loaded and ready for camping so he’s well within Max Trailer Weight and GCVW. There are several members here towing that and more with a bumper pull. With the added stability of a 5th wheel, by limiting passengers and putting all cargo in the trailer this combo might not be as bad as it first appears. He does have 187 payload left for the driver when all hooked up and ready for camping. Maybe the family will follow in a second vehicle, how do we know?
 
My wife and I own an RV park, and have seen a few odd-balls. We have one that comes each year with a 44' toyhauler and a 3500 Ram with a 10' bed. Now THATS impressive to see.
 
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the wanderer said:
I can't seem to find any numbers on the 2020's, if you have some links available I would love to see them.

But regardless, my comments on this have been made under a few assumptions:
1) his payload (as per doorjamb) is probably < 1400 pounds.
2) he is carrying his wife and some luggage, maybe a kid or two (average scenario, I know nothing about him personally), plus the hitch for a 5th wheel (what is that, 75 to 100 pounds right there just for the hitch?)

So add that all up. Under those assumptions (which are not out of line at all), he is probably a few hundred pounds over his payload. Maybe even 400 to 500 pounds over. That's a very stupid thing to do, and he knows it; his very first comment was about him expecting negative feedback, well no kidding. There is a reason why, ever thought about what you're doing and done the math?
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read post #49 its just me and the wife and a 12lb dog.and that's because you assume I also drive truck for a living im sure you assumed that too.
 
Trooper4 said:
My wife and I own an RV par, and have seen a few odd-balls. We have one that comes each year with a 44' toyhauler and a 3500 Ram with a 10' bed. Now THATS impressive to see.
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My old setup. I believe it was 43' and change, and the truck an 8' bed of course. That other guy must have had a chassis 3500 and custom bed. Some parks were a PITA to get into, but fun times! :)
 

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tlpollock01 said:
How did you like towing the Jeep? I have a 4 door JKUR that I want to tow through mountains, Colorado, Moab, etc from Texas .


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Two of us have replied to this thread with Jeeps in tow, so not sure if you were asking me or the other guy, but I'll give you my thoughts...

Overall it's fine. Certainly not a heavy duty diesel platform, but for my use case it's not lacking for power, steering control, or braking performance. Fuel economy while towing at my usual 62-65MPH hovers around the 10mpg mark, and here in the Pacific Northwest we don't have many stretches of flat road... Having towed similar setups with a multitude of pickups over the years all over the Western US (including countless trips through Colorado and Moab), I don't think you'll have any issues other than fuel range. Put a 5-gallon gas can on the trailer, stock up on beef jerky and Dr. Pepper, and enjoy the ride :cool:
 
Couple more recent ones, again not heavy but it seems to constantly have a trailer hitched up :unsure:

1970 Jeepster Commando that I'm just getting starting on building up...

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Rolling chassis from a 1977 Ford Bronco that I'm restoring:

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Trailer was 8480 last time I took it over the scales.
I added bags and used a Blue OX WD Sway setup with 14k bars last year which was disappointing when it got windy. I purchased a Hensley Arrow for the upcoming season.


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Coopers_Dad said:
Trailer was 8480 last time I took it over the scales.
I added bags and used a Blue OX WD Sway setup with 14k bars last year which was disappointing when it got windy. I purchased a Hensley Arrow for the upcoming season.
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8.2 mpg. Oof. :eek:
 
Coopers_Dad said:
Trailer was 8480 last time I took it over the scales.
I added bags and used a Blue OX WD Sway setup with 14k bars last year which was disappointing when it got windy. I purchased a Hensley Arrow for the upcoming season.


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Really interested to hear how the Hensley works. That may be almost the same set up for me soon.
 
the wanderer said:
8.2 mpg. Oof. :eek:
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Yea, not so much about weight as it is about frontal area/wind resistance. I usually averaged 9.5 to 10mpg pulling that fiver with the diesel. Gross was around 27k. Diesels shine when towing. Gas trucks are awful but do get the job done. IMO, its not so much about the mileage but the towing experience. My 1500 with an empty 7 x 14 vnose cargo trailer doesn't struggle but you know its pulling something. That same trailer on the diesel was as if it wasn't back there. At times I would forget I had the 43 ft fifth behind me once I got on the highway and was pulling steady at 65 to 70. Diesels are king.
 
Cannonball said:
9200# in the outfitted and fueled boat. (31' w engines / 9' beam)
1700# in the trailer
5% (ish) tounge weight

Pulled for over 200 miles.

Overall very impressed. No issues accelerating or stopping. Actually accelerated very very well! Truck felt in control the whole time. The only issue was sway at high speed. But this pointed hull is the most sway enducing shape possible so it was to be expected.

The air suspension kept it fully level (picture was after I disconnected), no squat at all. Ride quality was excellent but you could definitely notice there was something back there.

Mileage was 10.5mpg averaging 63mph with in tow mode at all times (wouldn't downshift to 8th anyways and the shorter shift points helped going up "hills")

Sway was horrible at or above 65mph. Not the trucks fault though as mentioned... Also, I don't have a brake controller ... Ask me what my next upgrade is?

I have yet to pull it out of the water and UP a boat ramp though. With 4x2 I may set the trailer with a little more tounge weight before attempting it :oops:

What an amazing truck
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Maybe I misunderstood but are you saying you pulled 10,900# 200 miles with no trailer brakes? That sounds really scary to me and would be 7,900# over the legal limit without brakes in MN where I live.
 
millerbjm said:
Maybe I misunderstood but are you saying you pulled 10,900# 200 miles with no trailer brakes? That sounds really scary to me and would be 7,900# over the legal limit without brakes in MN where I live.
[/QU If you look closely at the picture, and know anything about boat trailers, you will see that the trailer has surge brakes. He clearly is not towing without brakes. The advantage to towing with electric brakes as in an RV, is that you can feather them to stretch the tow and get it back in line.
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