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Hellwig? Hell, yeah!

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I intend on installing one however soon I can get one, but I wanted to go ahead and install my 3.5” Front and 2.5” rear lift now. Does anyone know if I can get away with putting the stock sway bar/links back with the 2.5” of lift in the rear for a little while until I can get the hellwig delivered or am I flirting with breaking the links right away?
 

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I intend on installing one however soon I can get one, but I wanted to go ahead and install my 3.5” Front and 2.5” rear lift now. Does anyone know if I can get away with putting the stock sway bar/links back with the 2.5” of lift in the rear for a little while until I can get the hellwig delivered or am I flirting with breaking the links right away?
The stock links will work, just won't be ideal for improved handling. You will need longer end links to match the lift.
 

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I intend on installing one however soon I can get one, but I wanted to go ahead and install my 3.5” Front and 2.5” rear lift now. Does anyone know if I can get away with putting the stock sway bar/links back with the 2.5” of lift in the rear for a little while until I can get the hellwig delivered or am I flirting with breaking the links right away?
If it were me I’d get the longer end links, at 2.5” you’ll be stressing the heck out of those ball joints on the stock end links but it’ll probably work for a while
 

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If it were me I’d get the longer end links, at 2.5” you’ll be stressing the heck out of those ball joints on the stock end links but it’ll probably work for a while
I intend to, just gotta get one! They go out of stock quick
 

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Anyone try just drilling another hole in the stock swaybar? I know the hellwig is a bit more heavy duty.. but if putting it on the stock setting (rear hole) pretty much feels stock.. then I would assume drilling the stock swaybar would stiffen it up just the same? And free :)
 

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Drilling a hole in the stock bar would be a hack job. Get the Hellwig, it won't disappoint
 

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Well i decided i would just go ahead and be the Guinea pig here… Went ahead and dropped the bar on my lunch hour and take a look. Pretty easy job. You will need a shop press to flatten the tube to allow extra room for the second hole. but after that its cake. Took it for a ride through the twisty roads behind the shop. BIG difference from stock. Rear stays planted, but the best part is I’m no longer flopping around in the cab as much. I will stiffen up the front a bit and call this done. Not sure how the Hellwig feels, but I wouldn’t want it any stiffer. So I’m happy.
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Well i decided i would just go ahead and be the Guinea pig here… Went ahead and dropped the bar on my lunch hour and take a look. Pretty easy job. You will need a shop press to flatten the tube to allow extra room for the second hole. but after that its cake. Took it for a ride through the twisty roads behind the shop. BIG difference from stock. Rear stays planted, but the best part is I’m no longer flopping around in the cab as much. I will stiffen up the front a bit and call this done. Not sure how the Hellwig feels, but I wouldn’t want it any stiffer. So I’m happy.
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Defintely not a hack job, nice work!
 

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Well i decided i would just go ahead and be the Guinea pig here… Went ahead and dropped the bar on my lunch hour and take a look. Pretty easy job. You will need a shop press to flatten the tube to allow extra room for the second hole. but after that its cake. Took it for a ride through the twisty roads behind the shop. BIG difference from stock. Rear stays planted, but the best part is I’m no longer flopping around in the cab as much. I will stiffen up the front a bit and call this done. Not sure how the Hellwig feels, but I wouldn’t want it any stiffer. So I’m happy.
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how many inches from center of first hole to center of second hole?
 

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Defintely not a hack job, nice work!
Thanks!
how many inches from center of first hole to center of second hole?
Looking at the pics of the Hellwig they are 1” apart on center. So i did the same, 1” center to center. That keeps the connecting rod at a good angle, so not to put much more stress on that part.
 

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Defintely not a hack job, nice work!
Still a hack job. Steel is now weakened at the point he crushed it and drilled a hole through. You can see the difference between the factory area and where he made his hole. Nothing I would trust to not crack/corrode over time
 

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Well i decided i would just go ahead and be the Guinea pig here… Went ahead and dropped the bar on my lunch hour and take a look. Pretty easy job. You will need a shop press to flatten the tube to allow extra room for the second hole. but after that its cake. Took it for a ride through the twisty roads behind the shop. BIG difference from stock. Rear stays planted, but the best part is I’m no longer flopping around in the cab as much. I will stiffen up the front a bit and call this done. Not sure how the Hellwig feels, but I wouldn’t want it any stiffer. So I’m happy.
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Great job and thinking.
 

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Still a hack job. Steel is now weakened at the point he crushed it and drilled a hole through. You can see the difference between the factory area and where he made his hole. Nothing I would trust to not crack/corrode over time

Process is the same as OEM manufacturing process. They are all “crushed” on a press. Just a different location. I highly doubt they are heat treating or normalizing these parts. Even so the bar itself is made to flex. Been welding fabricating for 20+ years, i know a bit about metallurgy. This isn’t rocket science. And the stock bar already had signs of corrosion On a year old truck.Part of life here in the Midwest. No avaoiding that.
Could i have done a better job? Sure, but i was just testing a theory. And if it turns out to be **** over time.. like ferraiolo1 said. “Just replace it” But i have no issue trusting my precious cargo on this bar. In the mean time, I’m gonna go spend my 300 bucks on an Amp. lol. No disrespect bud, just my opinion. 👍
 

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Thanks!

Looking at the pics of the Hellwig they are 1” apart on center. So i did the same, 1” center to center. That keeps the connecting rod at a good angle, so not to put much more stress on that part.
how about keeping us informed of how this is working out for you and what kind of wear you get if any.
 

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how about keeping us informed of how this is working out for you and what kind of wear you get if any.
For sure.. loading up the dirt bikes this weekend.. they always make the truck feel “mushy” in the turns.. ill know right away if this is helps with a load in the bed. I’ll keep an eye on it all and post results.
 

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Process is the same as OEM manufacturing process. They are all “crushed” on a press. Just a different location. I highly doubt they are heat treating or normalizing these parts. Even so the bar itself is made to flex. Been welding fabricating for 20+ years, i know a bit about metallurgy. This isn’t rocket science. And the stock bar already had signs of corrosion On a year old truck.Part of life here in the Midwest. No avaoiding that.
Could i have done a better job? Sure, but i was just testing a theory. And if it turns out to be **** over time.. like ferraiolo1 said. “Just replace it” But i have no issue trusting my precious cargo on this bar. In the mean time, I’m gonna go spend my 300 bucks on an Amp. lol. No disrespect bud, just my opinion. 👍

Great job. You're probably gonna want a spare OEM swaybar, you know, just in case. I happen to have one... Make me an offer. ;)
 

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I may get a hell wig but im unsure ... In also thinking of adding a inch to the rear

So after review idk which togetthe dobison 2 inch rear spring or the clayton and if i do get any of those would i need to get the longer hellwig bar ? With the core 4x4 ?
 
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