Goodbye HEMI

[Scram1500]

Boy I hate drive by wire.

I'm still getting over electronic fuel injection

 

[Buz]

For the next 10 years electric trucks will really only be suitable for the commuter or home depot run type of person, and NOT for the person that actually tows heavy things. It will be a while longer before we can extract that kind of power from batteries without needing a charge every 75 miles.
So probably a hybrid will be the first 'electric' truck made for people who actually tow. It would seem a diesel 6 cylinder or even a large 4 cylinder diesel hybrid would be the first acceptable electric truck for people who actually tow.

 

[NorthStar]

Something tells me whatever Stellantis eventually decides to put in the Ram, they won't be able to recycle the commercial (or the excitement of seeing/hearing a Hemi) from the past:

 

[Johnny_H]

For the next 10 years electric trucks will really only be suitable for the commuter or home depot run type of person, and NOT for the person that actually tows heavy things. It will be a while longer before we can extract that kind of power from batteries without needing a charge every 75 miles.
So probably a hybrid will be the first 'electric' truck made for people who actually tow. It would seem a diesel 6 cylinder or even a large 4 cylinder diesel hybrid would be the first acceptable electric truck for people who actually tow.

Totally agree. Why domestic (and even foreign small car makers) haven’t widely adopted diesel hybrid powertrains is beyond me. Specifically diesel PHEV where the diesel is either part of the drivetrain or just an onboard generator. Efficiency, range, cost, thermal concerns, basically until we scale up the grid and go nuclear lol. The future is small modular nuclear on the grid and then even onboard nukes. Prob not my lifetime.

Also people forget while we project gas getting to $6-10 a gallon, most European countries already pay this, and even with recent fuel increases we must remember how volatile electricity costs can be. As our pump fuel prices go up, so does the coal, NG, and diesel that fires 90% of our grids. Per kW prices are by no means fixed. It can already cost as much to fast charge a Tesla in certain cases as it does to fill a passenger car with gas.


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[silver billet]

Something tells me whatever Stellantis eventually decides to put in the Ram, they won't be able to recycle the commercial (or the excitement of seeing/hearing a Hemi) from the past:

There's always the option to pipe in fake exhaust! (cough ford)

 

[devildodge]

I'm still getting over electronic fuel injection

I am still angry about the loss of a manual transmission in HeavyDuty trucks.

 

[djevox]

My take: no point in worrying about **** that will or won't happen. Either everything will be electric in 10 years or it won't. If the day comes that I can't get gas anymore, I'll do something different. Until then I am going to enjoy driving my truck and I'll pivot if/when I have to pivot.

There's no point in fighting change. It is coming, whether anyone likes it or not. 20 years ago the big ***** fest in car forums was how all vehicles were going to drive by wire instead of mechanical cables. When's the last time you saw anyone bitching about that on here? Never.

Since drive by wire has taken all the fun out of driving, I’ll just have to follow Toyotas lead and accept that subscription services like being able to remote start a vehicle will bring back the emotion.

 

[silver64]

They may try to get rid of new ICE engines in new production vehicles but they must honor all the 7 70's & beyond with replacement parts production for ICE engines. You could probably even get new crate engines for a pretty long time so I wouldn't be waving bye bye completely for a long long time.

 

[djevox]

They may try to get rid of new ICE engines in new production vehicles but they must honor all the 7 70's & beyond with replacement parts production for ICE engines. You could probably even get new crate engines for a pretty long time so I wouldn't be waving bye bye completely for a long long time.
that started me thinking, but not in that direction. I wonder if bolt-in electric conversions will be available for our Rams within 10 years.

 

[Crawpapa]

It’s not really that surprising. The newest Tundra no longer offers an 8-cylinder, the Fords are getting most of their sales with the V-6 Turbos, and they’ve already announced an all electric line up, so this was destined to come.

 

[devildodge]

Ram/Dodge has announce the straight 6 turbo was coming for many years.

Ram/Dodge has already made notice that they will set the electric world on its ear in 2024

This is not new or a surprise

The new charger looks awesome in the spy shots and the electric RAM is going right for the towing crown.

I can not use a full electric where I live in Rural USA and camping even more remotely.

But a hybrid truck would definitely work well for me and be something I would buy

 

[devildodge]

Look Out, Small-Block V-8s—This Tesla Crate Motor Is Coming For Your Jobs

Here is a Tesla motor swap that bolts into small-block engine mounts, so maybe give electricity a try in your next small-block project.

www.motortrend.com

 

[djevox]

Look Out, Small-Block V-8s—This Tesla Crate Motor Is Coming For Your Jobs

Here is a Tesla motor swap that bolts into small-block engine mounts, so maybe give electricity a try in your next small-block project.

www.motortrend.com

 

[Whoa_Ram]

For the next 10 years electric trucks will really only be suitable for the commuter or home depot run type of person, and NOT for the person that actually tows heavy things. It will be a while longer before we can extract that kind of power from batteries without needing a charge every 75 miles.
So probably a hybrid will be the first 'electric' truck made for people who actually tow. It would seem a diesel 6 cylinder or even a large 4 cylinder diesel hybrid would be the first acceptable electric truck for people who actually tow.

I agree with you on that. I think they are aiming and trying to get more people to convert to electric to minimize the amount of gas required vehicles. They can’t phase out gas powered vehicles completely, but what if the majority of people that don’t travel long distances or don’t tow go out and buy electric. That will leave the gas powered to the people that require it or just enjoy that better. I think people will change over faster once it’s readily available and those people are ok with it and won’t complain as they don’t need/require those options.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

One problem we face is that while they can't easily phase out ICE engines, they can regulate gasoline beyond reasonable market value. The what do they have?

This is the current tact with firearms. Fema buying up mass quantities causes shortages that fuel price wars. Lead regulations (really absurd considering this was mined from the earth) make using lead expensive and the same for substitutes. Once again driving up costs. What good are firearms without ammo? About as good as trucks without fuel.

 

[djevox]

Yes, The Squad has everyone cowering to them to get their way. Green makes them feel good about themselves.

Electric is cool but we have a long way to go yet. As pointed out the infrastructure won't take it.

As far as "Global Warming" goes... yep. Sure enough, temperatures on earth change as the gases in the star we orbit boil and change on a scale that dwarfs our tiny spec of a planet. The earth has been through many heat and cool cycles that we know of, probably many we don't. Even before people existed. I guess we blame ice ages and the thawing of ice ages on dinosaur farts?

Don't worry, as soon as we figure out the propulsion system on the alien craft they moved from Area 51 to the real undisclosed location, we'll have clean energy.

This is the first time I’ve seen someone outside of the agency I work for talk about cycles. Big

One problem we face is that while they can't easily phase out ICE engines, they can regulate gasoline beyond reasonable market value. The what do they have?

This is the current tact with firearms. Fema buying up mass quantities causes shortages that fuel price wars. Lead regulations (really absurd considering this was mined from the earth) make using lead expensive and the same for substitutes. Once again driving up costs. What good are firearms without ammo? About as good as trucks without fuel.

Not so sure lead regulations are not necessary. Asbestos is also natural and we all breathe it daily. The thing both have in common is that they’re fine with moderate exposure. It’s the manufacturing that causes the ultra-high concentrations and issues.

 

[Scram1500]

I am still angry about the loss of a manual transmission in HeavyDuty trucks.

You're just pouring salt in the wound now

 

[devildodge]

You're just pouring salt in the wound now

I have the ability to keep the wound from hurting.

 

[AngelPhoenix]

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Wtf do you own all of those!?

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

This is the first time I’ve seen someone outside of the agency I work for talk about cycles. Big


Not so sure lead regulations are not necessary. Asbestos is also natural and we all breathe it daily. The thing both have in common is that they’re fine with moderate exposure. It’s the manufacturing that causes the ultra-high concentrations and issues.

I get were you are coming from with the asbestos comparison. With asbestos though, we used it to manufacture everything. Drywall, floor covering, adhesives, insulation, drywall joint compound, popcorn ceiling spray, pipe and duct wrap, gaskets and seals just to name a few. Heck it was even in some cigarette filters, WTF?!?

In addition, asbestos is friable, so it can become airborne and inhaled.

I don't think bullets are quite that widespread. I mean, maybe in downtown Chicago or something but not most places. I would think if you are having lead poisoning issues from a bullet it is more serious than simple exposure.