3.21 vs 3.92: The Last Word

[Idahoktm]

Yes

I'm up for a good laugh. Explain.

 

[Ramroo]

I'm up for a good laugh. Explain.

Up for a good laugh eh. I don’t know how to put funny little videos on here, so probably won’t be too funny. I need to learn, because those are the funniest part of this forum. Anyway.
I know people level trucks, that’s fine, but when they make fun of someone (me), “perhaps NOT a truck is what they need” when they wish to level their truck, I felt compelled to respond. Because if you really want to use your trucks full capability safely, you should not level it. He wasn’t using good judgement on who ”needs” a truck.
Starting with a leveled truck, with any load it starts to squat, and with heavy or max loads it will squat excessively and put much more weight on the rear axle, and less on the front axle, which adversary affects all kinds of important things like braking, steering, handling, head light angles etc. Some counter the squat with air bags that control the squatting, but with the expense of ride quality.
Trucks with an air suspension control the squat by adjusting the air to always have a level truck, eliminating the problems listed above. Stock trucks have a rake to be able to handle a heavy load, control the squat, while balancing ride quality.
Starting with a leveled truck with zero load is not good, if you really “need” a truck.

 

[Idahoktm]

Up for a good laugh eh. I don’t know how to put funny little videos on here, so probably won’t be too funny. I need to learn, because those are the funniest part of this forum. Anyway.
I know people level trucks, that’s fine, but when they make fun of someone (me), “perhaps NOT a truck is what they need” when they wish to level their truck, I felt compelled to respond. Because if you really want to use your trucks full capability safely, you should not level it. He wasn’t using good judgement on who ”needs” a truck.
Starting with a leveled truck, with any load it starts to squat, and with heavy or max loads it will squat excessively and put much more weight on the rear axle, and less on the front axle, which adversary affects all kinds of important things like braking, steering, handling, head light angles etc. Some counter the squat with air bags that control the squatting, but with the expense of ride quality.
Trucks with an air suspension control the squat by adjusting the air to always have a level truck, eliminating the problems listed above. Stock trucks have a rake to be able to handle a heavy load, control the squat, while balancing ride quality.
Starting with a leveled truck with zero load is not good, if you really “need” a truck.

Obviously you read his signature but you still missed the part that said he had air bags.

 

[Ramroo]

Obviously you read his signature but you still missed the part that said he had air bags.

Didn’t miss that. I guess if he wants to ride on a rear suspension that’s feels hard as a rock, every time he “needs” his truck, well happy trails then.

 

[Idahoktm]

Didn’t miss that. I guess if he wants to ride on a rear suspension that’s feels hard as a rock, every time he “needs” his truck, we’ll happy trails then.

You said his truck would be less capable. It's not and it won't be with a leveling kit.

 

[Ramroo]

You said his truck would be less capable. It's not and it won't be with a leveling kit.

Less capable of hauling safely and comfortably, yes.

 

[Idahoktm]

Less capable of hauling safely and comfortably, yes.

Let's face it, you got into a pissing match with another member. That's all this is.

 

[Ramroo]

Let's face it, you got into a pissing match with another member. That's all this is.

Let’s face it, you have a leveled castrated truck and don’t realize it.

 

[SnowBlaZR2]

castrated truck and don’t realize it.

3.21

 

[Ramroo]

The circle of life.
Level your truck, see how you like it. Ain’t gonna happen.

 

[SnowBlaZR2]

The circle of life.
Level your truck, see how you like it. Ain’t gonna happen.

Other than a bed liner and cover, my truck will stay stock.

 

[StuartV]

Didn’t miss that. I guess if he wants to ride on a rear suspension that’s feels hard as a rock, every time he “needs” his truck, well happy trails then.

I leveled my 4th Gen 1500 with Bilstein 5100(?) shocks. I put air bags in the rear suspension coils for when I towed my 28' bumper pull camper that I used to have.

With enough air in the bags to level the truck when the trailer was hooked up, the truck still rode great! Still better than an unloaded F150 or GM 1500.

Having (and using) the air bags with coil spring rear suspension allowed me to still have full suspension travel (i.e. full use of those rear springs), even with a heavy load. I bet my truck rode better, when pulling my camper, with leveled suspension and those air bags than it would have with raked suspension and no air bags.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

I'm up for a good laugh. Explain.

Well you know, in order to have a truck and use it, you must ride around at all times with maximum payload, perhaps a little over just because. You know, if you would just haul a dozen sheets of plywood or a pallet of light weight cinderblocks or a few dozen bags of mulch, well, you don't need a truck. That can go in your Prius just fine. (Hence they sell Rams with 3.21 gears)

So jack that back end up like your rolling downhill all day and load her up!

 

[Ramroo]

Well you know, in order to have a truck and use it, you must ride around at all times with maximum payload, perhaps a little over just because. You know, if you would just haul a dozen sheets of plywood or a pallet of light weight cinderblocks or a few dozen bags of mulch, well, you don't need a truck. That can go in your Prius just fine. (Hence they sell Rams with 3.21 gears)

So jack that back end up like your rolling downhill all day and load her up!

Oh yea,
You saw I said castrated, and you decided to speak up. I almost forgot about your truck.

 

[SnowBlaZR2]

payload

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

You guys are killing me!

 

[Dewey]

So I guess we’re done with gear ratios?

 

[djevox]

So I guess we’re done with gear ratios?

 

[Ramroo]

There is some f***ery afoot. All in good fun.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

So I guess we’re done with gear ratios?

Oh HELL no!