3.21 vs 3.92: The Last Word

[Ramroo]

i agree with = "but it's wrong" when pertaining to "guys who don't understand math like to think" - lol

anywho.............22 RAM 1500 w/3.21 V8 is the SAME "bottle of water" as a 22 RAM 1500 V8 w/3.92

Bob has a RAM 1500 Hemi w/3.21 and Fred has a RAM 1500 w/3.92 = equivalence of biometric design contained within a parameter of mechanicicks
Performance of water coolant system remains EQUAL
Performance of Rear Cosmology is not equal
Performance measurements can, and are, biased within parametrical application dependent upon variables that are contained within the biosphere.

My personal biospheric application of said vehicle is a formulation with applied simulatory prescription.
Your own personal biosphere has parameters unknown to myself but is formulated by that which you are aware of.
Results vary based upon the controlling biosphere content and driver simulation.

Conclusion: Both Bob and Fred are equally correct AND equally argumentative

I’m not an expert on “Rear cosmology”….. we don’t want to know.
But 3.92 will run it out of water sooner

 

[TreesRule]

My brain hurts..gonna go do me a burnout =================
(got some wheel hop there)

Do one for me as well, as a certain Tyrannical Office of Government has my DL from an event that occurred 24 years ago which EXPIRED and yet their unretsrainner terror continues as i wait in limbo land.
This event did not incur DWI or any type of misdemeanor or felony - just your everyday minor traffic disregard AND no one was hurt AND no accidents occurred.

Which further gives insight to such cranial diversion from 'engineering' conversations within this free expression platform.

 

[TreesRule]

I’m not an expert on “Rear cosmology”….. we don’t want to know.
But 3.92 will run it out of water sooner

Agree

Unless, the application of an engineering 'cheat sheet' is hidden within construct.

 

[silver billet]

i agree with = "but it's wrong" when pertaining to "guys who don't understand math like to think" - lol

anywho.............22 RAM 1500 w/3.21 V8 is the SAME "bottle of water" as a 22 RAM 1500 V8 w/3.92

Bob has a RAM 1500 Hemi w/3.21 and Fred has a RAM 1500 w/3.92 = equivalence of biometric design contained within a parameter of mechanicicks
Performance of water coolant system remains EQUAL
Performance of Rear Cosmology is not equal
Performance measurements can, and are, biased within parametrical application dependent upon variables that are contained within the biosphere.

My personal biospheric application of said vehicle is a formulation with applied simulatory prescription.
Your own personal biosphere has parameters unknown to myself but is formulated by that which you are aware of.
Results vary based upon the controlling biosphere content and driver simulation.

Conclusion: Both Bob and Fred are equally correct AND equally argumentative

Drugs sound like a heck of a ride.

 

[TreesRule]

Drugs sound like a heck of a ride.

Never my preference

 

[Jmac509]

I see we are doing our yearly thread revival of the 3.21 vs 3.92 a little early this year. Last year we made it until July.

Good to see you all here again Ladies and Gentlemen.

I agree after 26 pages this is highly debatable.

 

[Idahoktm]

i agree with = "but it's wrong" when pertaining to "guys who don't understand math like to think" - lol

anywho.............22 RAM 1500 w/3.21 V8 is the SAME "bottle of water" as a 22 RAM 1500 V8 w/3.92

Bob has a RAM 1500 Hemi w/3.21 and Fred has a RAM 1500 w/3.92 = equivalence of biometric design contained within a parameter of mechanicicks
Performance of water coolant system remains EQUAL
Performance of Rear Cosmology is not equal
Performance measurements can, and are, biased within parametrical application dependent upon variables that are contained within the biosphere.

My personal biospheric application of said vehicle is a formulation with applied simulatory prescription.
Your own personal biosphere has parameters unknown to myself but is formulated by that which you are aware of.
Results vary based upon the controlling biosphere content and driver simulation.

Conclusion: Both Bob and Fred are equally correct AND equally argumentative

I think TreesRule got himself a thesaurus.

 

[Whitetail Diesel]

So, I’ve read all the posts here related to the 3.21 vs 3.92, but now have back-to-back, real world experience with both. Here’s the result:

Buy the 3.92 if:
- you are going to tow more than 8,000 lbs
- you are going to put big tires on
- you need a rock-crawling 1st gear
- you really don’t care how much you spend on gas
- you just have to have the 3.92, for rational or other reasons

If none of the above, buy the 3.21. I just spent a week and 600 mi with a brand new 2020 1500 DT Laramie 5.7 non-etorque 3.21 and the the next 600mi week with same brand new truck but e-torque 3.92 (that I had ordered a month earlier).

As for the usual reasons to buy a 3.92:
- acceleration: yes the 3.92 is a little more perky feeling, but the 3.21 is plenty quick. In fact, the 3.92 1st gear is so low,you’ll be well into 3rd before you hit 60. The 3.21 hits 60 right after shifting into 3rd.
- towing: for trailers at or under 8k, the 3.21 is fine. Yes it will operate one one gear lower pretty much the whole time, and be a little slower from a stop, but easily plenty of power.
- load capacity: no difference, so not a factor

I ordered and took delivery of the 3.92, and while it’s fine, had I ordered after having the 3.21, I probably would have gone 3.21. My travel trailer is around 6300#, and either works.

MPG wise, the 3.21 averaged almost 2 mpg better. I do 80/20 highway/city by miles, but 50/50 by time, and the 3.92 mileage is notably worse at stop&go and at speeds over 70. (should note the 3.92 truck was a couple hundred pounds heavier). The 3.92 turns 1980 RPM at 70, while the 3.21 does 1620. Excluding towing, I’m averaging 18 in the 3.92 etorque so far.

That all said, the 3.92 should be a tiny bit easier to sell, as it can do everything (except get better mileage). while some buyers will avoid 3.21 trucks.

Also, the 3.21 truck downshifts from 8th much more readily, and seems to come out of ECO more readily. (working on another info post, on reverse engineering the criteria for entering/exiting ECO).

Side note, I like the eTorque, and am not bothered by ECO or Stop-Start. I would definitely buy etorque again.

Anyhow, I quite like my truck so far, and am not trading it for a 3.21, but figured I’d pass on these observations for those considering their options.

3.21 I have. I do not tow! 2020 ram ecodiesel

 

[TreesRule]

I think TreesRule got himself a thesaurus.

Ya know, i never opened one of them thar books of the intellectually mundane.

 

[theblet]

Red is not my color of choice EXCEPT the dark red on the RAM

Is that yours??? = BEAUTIFUL RAM

Yes. Mine is delmonico red

 

[theblet]

I got you. You posted not long ago that you were fortunate enough to lay some pipe. You mentioned something about a trencher … we understand.
Lubrication helps.
That’s all.

Pipe has been laid. No lube. I like friction

 

[TreesRule]

Yes. Mine is delmonico red

Reminds me of the song by Joe Jackson - 'Look Sharp'