2019 vs. 2020 RAM 1500

[Willwork4truck]

Hopefully the 2020’s will have something that makes me drool more...

 

[TormentedOne]

I caught this on a youtube Video, halfways into my order, they called and made sure I got my 350 Cameras....I would of been pissed if the truck would of arrived and I didn't have those. I use the 360 cameras Alot, especially in drive-thrus!

Wow... I never even thought of them for that use! Now I need to make sure I order mine with that! Lol

 

[Ram92131]

Wow... I never even thought of them for that use! Now I need to make sure I order mine with that! Lol

I use them all the time too. I wish the images would blend a little better in the corners though.

 

[graphguy]

Really?
being able to walk all the way up to the bed without having the tailgate in the way? That is huge. Also could back in closer to a wall and still open the tailgate.

For those waiting on a split tailgate, what is the benefit of having that? It's not something I would be interested in, but I always learn from the perspectives of the smart RAM owners here.

 

[mczurales]

I’ve spotted a few 2019 1500s online built with the dual-function tailgate option. They are all very recent builds currently in-transit. Nice way to get 2020 benefits with current 2019 incentives!

 

[Willwork4truck]

I’ve spotted a few 2019 1500s online built with the dual-function tailgate option. They are all very recent builds currently in-transit. Nice way to get 2020 benefits with current 2019 incentives!

That would be wayyy cool.

 

[go-ram]

I want the split tailgate for the practicality of putting heavy stuff in the bed and not having to slide it back past the gate to close it. I also assume the split gate will be great for anyone who hauls things on pallets.

For the same reason you cite relative to more easily loading pallets, it's the same for those of us with low-back issues, wherein leaning over the tailgate with a load is a no-no or we risk further damage to our backs. Being able to open one or both tailgate doors and stand with thighs right against the bumper while setting in whatever I'm carrying, will be a huge positive aspect for me.

 

[Rebel Randy]

My thinking, with all of the 20% off advertising on '19 1500's there may be some drivetrain changes coming for 2020. I could see Ram using the new 7.0/426 in the gas 2500's and dropping the 6.4/392 as an option on the 1500's. I've never seen deals like these before.

 

[Willwork4truck]

Wouldn’t that be nice to see though I’, doubtful.
Yes the deals are great for those who could take advantage of them, sigh... wonder when they will stop? Ford usually has a July employee (X Plan ish) pricing event, thats when I bought mine.

 

[Rebel Randy]

Ford is coming out with a new 7+ liter engine in their F250 this coming MY. It could force Ram's hand to make some changes sooner than later.

 

[Willwork4truck]

That would be a good thing!

 

[SpeedyV]

Ford is coming out with a new 7+ liter engine in their F250 this coming MY. It could force Ram's hand to make some changes sooner than later.

Yeah, but not in the 1/2-ton market, unless Ford drops that heavy gasser in a street truck. At 7.3L, I imagine it's just too heavy for that application.

I remember test-driving a Ram right after a Sierra Denali. I made a comment about the sweet 6.2L in the GMC, and the sales rep immediately responded that I wasn't comparing apples-to-apples, and that the 6.2L should only be compared to Ram's 6.4L HEMI. I took a deep breath and reminded him that the big HEMI isn't available in a 1/2-ton, and the 5.7L version is the best we've got. (Furthermore, the big GM V8 puts out more horsepower and torque: 420/460 vs. 410/429.)

I've been watching the 7.3L Ford and rumored 7.XL Ram discussions for a couple of years now. I'm surprised at how close-to-the-vest Ford is being with the power numbers on that unit. I'm sure they'll want to significantly exceed GM's new 6.6L HD gasser (401/464). Rumors suggest that 450/500 or better would be good targets for the 7.3L.

 

[Willwork4truck]

The HP/TQ race can only go to a point till mpg’s begin to suffer and if things swing back to the stiff Cafe standards that were being implemented just a couple years ago, then the investment in a high hp/tq engine could be to no avail for the maker.
Ford committed tons of cash to the twin turbo approach, and never really got their mpg’s to match claims. It was just too easy to get the turbos spooling up and there went mileage. I get better mpg’s with the 19’ Limited CC hemi than with a lighter XLT S Cab 2.7 ecoboost. True the eco had a 6 spd and 3.55’s but still...
I’m no engineer yet we likely are getting near the point of diminishing returns on power vs mileage. By reducing the truck weight (a la Ford aluminum body) they tried very hard to enable the motors to get better mileage.
I don’t see RAM going to such great lengths as Ford did in weight reduction. Its notable RAM dropped over 200# on the new 2019’s and did not sacrifice steel for the bed.
How much more they can drop will be a question, perhaps the 2020 or a 2021 model will see further reductions.

 

[Jims380da]

Yeah, but not in the 1/2-ton market, unless Ford drops that heavy gasser in a street truck. At 7.3L, I imagine it's just too heavy for that application.

I remember test-driving a Ram right after a Sierra Denali. I made a comment about the sweet 6.2L in the GMC, and the sales rep immediately responded that I wasn't comparing apples-to-apples, and that the 6.2L should only be compared to Ram's 6.4L HEMI. I took a deep breath and reminded him that the big HEMI isn't available in a 1/2-ton, and the 5.7L version is the best we've got. (Furthermore, the big GM V8 puts out more horsepower and torque: 420/460 vs. 410/429.

That 6.2 GM is really making my decision on GMC vs RAM extremely difficult

 

[SpeedyV]

@Jims380da - It came down to the overall package for me. I wrote a post on my back-to-back-to-back driving impressions last year (on this forum). I ended up ordering a Ram, obviously, and I was sure to get the 3.92 and eTorque to maximize powertrain performance.

 

[Jims380da]

@Jims380da - It came down to the overall package for me. I wrote a post on my back-to-back-to-back driving impressions last year (on this forum). I ended up ordering a Ram, obviously, and I was sure to get the 3.92 and eTorque to maximize powertrain performance.

I'll look for the post. My plan is to order one as well. Curious to read your comparison on ride quality. I'm basing my experiences compared to my 2016 Denali which I'm sick of

 

[SpeedyV]

I'll look for the post. My plan is to order one as well. Curious to read your comparison on ride quality. I'm basing my experiences compared to my 2016 Denali which I'm sick of

Here you go; I had to dig for this one!

Driving Impressions: Ford, GMC, and Ram

As a follow-up to our discussion on another thread, I offered to share our impressions on the best of today's light-duty trucks. My wife and I drove the following trucks back-to-back: 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn, 4x4, crew cab, short box, 5.7L Hemi V8, 8-speed, 3.21 axle, air suspension...

5thgenrams.com

 

[go-ram]

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I’m no engineer yet we likely are getting near the point of diminishing returns on power vs mileage. By reducing the truck weight (a la Ford aluminum body) they tried very hard to enable the motors to get better mileage.
I don’t see RAM going to such great lengths as Ford did in weight reduction. Its notable RAM dropped over 200# on the new 2019’s and did not sacrifice steel for the bed.
How much more they can drop will be a question, perhaps the 2020 or a 2021 model will see further reductions.

I think one factor at play with respect to fuel economy is that even though they are pulling body & frame weight out of these trucks, because of the HP/torque/towing wars, they keep having to put in larger radiators, heavier-duty transmissions, beefier rear-ends & brakes, etc., which of course add dead weight as well as increasing rotary inertia of the spinning driveline components. As the old computer-performance adage from the 1990s used to go "Intel giveth, and Microsoft taketh away.", it seems to me that "Body & Frame giveth, and driveline + running gear taketh away." Really, the big three should stop upping their HP & torque, and cool it with these ridiculous, stratospheric towing numbers, and work on saving the truck owners some real cash by reducing either purchase price or ongoing fuel costs.

 

[SilverSurfer15]

Amen to that last post, why are we towing 10-12k lbs with 1500 trucks? Who wanted that?

The answer should be no one. Buy a 2500 diesel and realize it’s really the only answer/solution to that.

 

[Binaryslave]

The HP/TQ race can only go to a point till mpg’s begin to suffer and if things swing back to the stiff Cafe standards that were being implemented just a couple years ago, then the investment in a high hp/tq engine could be to no avail for the maker.
Ford committed tons of cash to the twin turbo approach, and never really got their mpg’s to match claims. It was just too easy to get the turbos spooling up and there went mileage. I get better mpg’s with the 19’ Limited CC hemi than with a lighter XLT S Cab 2.7 ecoboost. True the eco had a 6 spd and 3.55’s but still...
I’m no engineer yet we likely are getting near the point of diminishing returns on power vs mileage. By reducing the truck weight (a la Ford aluminum body) they tried very hard to enable the motors to get better mileage.
I don’t see RAM going to such great lengths as Ford did in weight reduction. Its notable RAM dropped over 200# on the new 2019’s and did not sacrifice steel for the bed.
How much more they can drop will be a question, perhaps the 2020 or a 2021 model will see further reductions.

Can I ask how? I was getting 19mpg overall average in my 2016 f150 2.7 eco boost 4x4 lariat.

Im now in a 2019 ram platinum 4x4 hemi seeing 13mpg. Truck only has 600 miles on it I read it improves over time. Im really hoping so!