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Gasser. Ecoboost vs large NA. If you can't read I'm not surprised you can't understand the argument.
As I said, I won't be buying it.
We're not talking about towing gas vs diesel. The argument is towing the same load with an ecoboost vs a large NA gasser making similar power numbers, and obviously the NA gasser is going to outlive that tiny boosted engine. The argument is "duty cycle" and how the ecoboost can't handle the daily abuse of a heavy duty truck.
Perhaps it's because you're using circular logic. You make arguments about half ton trucks not meeting your needs, yet you drive a half ton. You sing the praises of the 5.7 Hemi in a 2500 but Ram hasn't equipped a 2500 with a 5.7 Hemi for years. You say Ford doesn't put engines with turbos in any of their real trucks, yet you argue the case in favor of turbo-diesel engines (I'll give you a hint: the "turbo" in turbo-diesel does in fact mean the engine is equipped with a turbo).Not a difficult concept, not sure why you're having trouble understanding this view.
I wish they would have built the power boards into the ram like that.
Have you looked at you 5.7l Hemi Ram transmission? The exhaust runs right under the trans pan
No manufacturer puts small turbo engines in their HD trucks. Not sure what point you are trying to make be repeating that over and over againz or even singleing out Ford specifically
Could be that you're only voicing half of what you're trying to say.
That makes sense, but in an earlier post you said half ton pickups are basically passenger cars. If that's true then, speaking as an F150 ecoboost owner, the Hurricane will be more than enough engine for it. I can respect your choice of not wanting your next half ton to have a 6 cylinder turbo. I share that choice as well. But the reasons you provided for not wanting it kind of conflict with your definition of a half ton pickup being basically a passenger car.
Relevant or not, you're the one who brought it up.
Just when you seem to want to have a reasonable discussion you throw out triggering statements like the above. BTW, I never mentioned the 6.7 Cummins. You made the obviously inaccurate statement about Ford not putting engines with turbos in real trucks. Why not just own that and admit you made a mistake?
It's funny when people do this. Make statement you fully know will trigger other members, then say you aren't going to talk about it anymore. So you're basically saying you're gonna take your ball and go home?
All of these HD/superduty truck arguments you’re inserting into this thread are completely moot.
Nope, some of you are clearly and intentionally misreading this.
Not at all. You CAN still work a half ton. Towing is a great example. But clearly the designs and intended audience is sinking lower and lower into passenger car duty and this latest engine is just proof of that.
And this is proof of you intentionally misreading my statement. I brought it up as proof that the 5.7 can handle heavy duty usage. That's not irrelevant, what's irrelevant is that its no longer in the lineup because the reason it isn't there has nothing to do with reliability but power demands (it's just not big enough anymore to match the competition even as a base engine).Relevant or not, you're the one who brought it up.
Again a "missreading". Obviously I'm well aware that all modern diesels in trucks these days are turbo charged so you could have used your head and figured out what I was saying: They don't put ecoboost turbo charged gassers in their trucks. I made the point several posts ago that they had the option of putting the ecoboost turbo in their super duty, but instead went way out of their way to design a large NA v8 instead. Even though the ecoboost could put out enough power, they refused to use it. That is the point here.
Ford begs to differ.
