Can you still order 5.7 Without eTorque?

[Ryanww]

Need the other dealer persons on here, I tried building a truck for a customer, like mine, and it would not allow me to select 25H the 5.7 Hemi, the only option shown was 27H for the 5.7 Hemi with eTorque....was it an error in the system for me or is Chrysler doing this because they are facing a crazy CAFE tax from the US government, since they are half way through the year, and only have 1/3 of the hybrid Pacificas sold, that they need to sell, in order to balance the books for MPG regulations?

Side note. Manfucturers do not pay per vehicle, but as an fleet whole at the end of the year, for the following year

 

[Lakewake]

Need the other dealer persons on here, I tried building a truck for a customer, like mine, and it would not allow me to select 25H the 5.7 Hemi, the only option shown was 27H for the 5.7 Hemi with eTorque....was it an error in the system for me or is Chrysler doing this because they are facing a crazy CAFE tax from the US government, since they are half way through the year, and only have 1/3 of the hybrid Pacificas sold, that they need to sell, in order to balance the books for MPG regulations?

Side note. Manfucturers do not pay per vehicle, but as an fleet whole at the end of the year, for the following year

Ordered mine on 6/15 and 27h was all that was available then, at least on high trims

 

[ryelinek]

I have my truck but multiple people have said you can not order a Limited with the normal 5.7 and only eTorque. Not sure if that applies to the Longhorn as well.

 

[mikemcfarland]

Need the other dealer persons on here, I tried building a truck for a customer, like mine, and it would not allow me to select 25H the 5.7 Hemi, the only option shown was 27H for the 5.7 Hemi with eTorque....was it an error in the system for me or is Chrysler doing this because they are facing a crazy CAFE tax from the US government, since they are half way through the year, and only have 1/3 of the hybrid Pacificas sold, that they need to sell, in order to balance the books for MPG regulations?

Side note. Manfucturers do not pay per vehicle, but as an fleet whole at the end of the year, for the following year

bobbie big wheels is a canadian dealer who might chime in. i do believe the hemi with e-torque is the only configuration that you can order till January 2019. ( date might be wrong but i think is somewhere on this form)

 

[VaderRebel]

I was so glad to get my order in under the wire... as intriguing as eTourqe seems on paper, it's as equally terrifying if it goes wrong. I was gun-shy after my air ride nightmare. Nothing but eTourqe till Jan... yikes.

 

[Ryanww]

I had my order in a month ago, and got it a week ago. I did not look. But I am going to say you are right that you can no longer order without it

 

[19llhpb]

I have my truck but multiple people have said you can not order a Limited with the normal 5.7 and only eTorque. Not sure if that applies to the Longhorn as well.

Yes, ordered Longhorn on 6/12. E-torque only then.

 

[2019REBEL]

Come to Canada all the non Etorque are available here. Building on Canadian website standard engine is Hemi

 

[JohnC]

Come to Canada all the non Etorque are available here. Building on Canadian website standard engine is Hemi

Need the other dealer persons on here, I tried building a truck for a customer, like mine, and it would not allow me to select 25H the 5.7 Hemi, the only option shown was 27H for the 5.7 Hemi with eTorque....was it an error in the system for me or is Chrysler doing this because they are facing a crazy CAFE tax from the US government, since they are half way through the year, and only have 1/3 of the hybrid Pacificas sold, that they need to sell, in order to balance the books for MPG regulations?

Side note. Manfucturers do not pay per vehicle, but as an fleet whole at the end of the year, for the following year

I tried to order a non etorque as well but it wouldn’t let them so I went with it. I heard from the dealer they might be coming back this month. If so I’m canceling my order and reordering the non-etorque. I really don’t want a hybrid with a 93lb battery. It might be good but not willing to be a test subject.

 

[Edwards]

I tried to order a non etorque as well but it wouldn’t let them so I went with it. I heard from the dealer they might be coming back this month. If so I’m canceling my order and reordering the non-etorque. I really don’t want a hybrid with a 93lb battery. It might be good but not willing to be a test subject.

Where did you get the 93lb figure from on the eTorque battery? I was spit balling it at 63lbs (total delta for eTorque) based on the towing guide. I'd like to know if I'm off.

 

[JohnC]

I read it somewhere. I’ll see if I can find and post the source. No matter what, it’s still a battery with a mechanical generator and I’d prefer the plain old Hemi. Let me see if I can find it again.

 

[JohnC]

Where did you get the 93lb figure from on the eTorque battery? I was spit balling it at 63lbs (total delta for eTorque) based on the towing guide. I'd like to know if I'm off.

Where did you get the 93lb figure from on the eTorque battery? I was spit balling it at 63lbs (total delta for eTorque) based on the towing guide. I'd like to know if I'm off.

I did a quick Google and found on autoweek.com that the “etorque system adds about 100 lbs”. I’ll try to find where I saw the 93lbs but it sounds correct if the system adds 100.

 

[alacombe]

I tried to order a non etorque as well but it wouldn’t let them so I went with it. I heard from the dealer they might be coming back this month. If so I’m canceling my order and reordering the non-etorque. I really don’t want a hybrid with a 93lb battery. It might be good but not willing to be a test subject.

I am extremely skeptical also

 

[2019REBEL]

I am thinking majority of that 100lbs is strapped to the motor and not the battery pack as that would be one heavy battery pack the size of a briefcase.

 

[Edwards]

Makes sense, but I'm still leaning towards the tow guide figures. It even has the engineer's name and number on it and that carries much more weight with me than a press quote. Agreed that the battery is extra weight and the motor/generator has to be heavier than the alternator, but then you'd subtract the alternator weight.

The tow guide shows a CC 4x4 5' box eTorque (calls it BSG which I take as belt start generator - probably published before marketing came up with "eTorque") base weight at 5323.15 and a non-eTorque at 5259.81. I picked that config because that's what I ordered. I didn't check the math on other configs because it should be the same. Simple subtraction nets 63.34lbs difference. In my mind that should be the total weight difference between the two trucks.

 

[JohnC]

My is in production so I guess I’ll see soon. The battery is located behind the back seat. I’m still hoping the 25H comes back before mine gets delivered so I can reorder.

 

[Jared B]

84 LBS is the weight difference between an eTorque truck and a non eTorque truck.

 

[JohnC]

I ordered the 4x4 crew cab. I’ve got the RAM brochure at home. Have to look it up.

 

[Jared B]

I ordered the 4x4 crew cab. I’ve got the RAM brochure at home. Have to look it up.

Oddly enough it looks like it adds 78 LBS to a 4x4 Crew.

 

[Edwards]

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84 LBS is the weight difference between an eTorque truck and a non eTorque truck.

Great. Now Ram has two sets of numbers. I did notice that the towing document was dated January 3rd but it is still live on Ram.com - https://www.ramtrucks.com/content/d..._Tow_Official_Report_OFFICIAL_A_2018-1-31.pdf

The numbers you show above are also lighter base weight too by 58 lbs.