Dewey
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Same on all models when I ordered in March of 2022.
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Who here is NOT happy with their e-Torque system?
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At $300 a year savings at best, that's less than a dollar a day savings. The average driving day wouldn't show a difference in mileage.
6of36
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Where are you getting those numbers? When I got my 20, it was the same price for etorque and non etorque. Even the upgrade from a 6 cylinder, to a Hemi etorque is only $2995 now.We drove a 22 with e/Torque and while it worked well and was actually very smooth in operation, it's not a cost effective option. A couple of years ago the e/Torque addition was $3400 and a reasonable "greener" option. But today the inflated price of $8,910 (on the CDN Sport) for the feature is ridiculous when it can only save you $3,000 of fuel savings over 10 years of ownership - you never get your investment back. That's why we chose not to get e/Torque, it doesn't save any money in the long run and the "green-ness" of the feature is dubious. Just like a friend of mine who bought a Tesla. He thinks he's fully green with his rechargeable vehicle. Then I reminded him about the coal plant that generates the electricity to recharge his "green" vehicle.
Same here. I do not notice the regenerative braking at all on my 2021 Limited.
Canadian RAM build pricing website. Prices have climbed in the last year for e/Torque up here for some reason while our idiot government have been pushing hard on manufacturers to increase "green" options and tax those of us without "green" features even more. Actual dealer price will be less, but similar options with the e/Torque was about 3k more last year, and about $1500 two years ago. Even at $3000 last year it would take ten years of ownership to break even and you still haven't made a blip on the environmental radar. And now at nearly 9k upgrade, it's a complete joke and you'll never get that investment back unless you can squeeze 30 years out of your truck with daily driving.
Choose Your Ram 1500 | Ram Canada
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And if you build a Limited it's a $1495 upgrade:
Choose Your Ram 1500 | Ram Canada
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Welcome to Canaduh...the land of high prices and higher taxes...
Darksteel165
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That website loos like a$$.Canadian RAM build pricing website. Prices have climbed in the last year for e/Torque up here for some reason while our idiot government have been pushing hard on manufacturers to increase "green" options and tax those of us without "green" features even more. Actual dealer price will be less, but similar options with the e/Torque was about 3k more last year, and about $1500 two years ago. Even at $3000 last year it would take ten years of ownership to break even and you still haven't made a blip on the environmental radar. And now at nearly 9k upgrade, it's a complete joke and you'll never get that investment back unless you can squeeze 30 years out of your truck with daily driving.
Choose Your Ram 1500 | Ram Canada
Select a Ram 1500 from our lineup to customize. Build, price, and search local dealer inventory to find your new Ram vehicle.www.ramtruck.ca
And if you build a Limited it's a $1495 upgrade:
Choose Your Ram 1500 | Ram Canada
Select a Ram 1500 from our lineup to customize. Build, price, and search local dealer inventory to find your new Ram vehicle.
Welcome to Canaduh...the land of high prices and higher taxes...
The same Limited I have costs 90k after discounts. It claims there is a 10% MSRP discount when orering the truck... Do you not need to waste time going around to different dealership to order it? I did notice there are some things we can get taht you ca't get off the website like a 33 gallon tank (only 27.4) and i'm not 100% sure the packages line up, but mine had all options except towing options so I just grabbed them all.
The truck ends up 65k USD which is what I got my truck for after flying across the entire country and driving it 1700 miles home.... If I can get that at any Canadian dealership I don't think that is bad at all in Canada imo.
I still wanna know wtf the "sport" trim is. You can get a Rebel 12 package on it, it comes with a 5.7 standard, and eTorque is $8,910? So many questions.
Mr.Grid
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I don’t understand why they made eTorque standard in all 2023 USA Hemi Rams. Imho all this does is inflate the price of the truck. When I needed a new truck in August 2021 the only thing on the lots were eTorque in Laramie. I ordered out specifically to get one without as I tow 60% of the time and highway drive the other 40%. I read the entire thread and watched the video. They remove the owner not wanting this system from the sale. For Me… No thanks…..
Darksteel165
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Because they don't care about you.
They only care about the bottom line, and keeping less engine choices makes it cheaper for them to build.
Just wait until they remove the v8 as an "option" in the near future.
Dewey
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BINGO
The Sport trim is similar to the Laramie with body colour bumpers, door handles, etc. and many of the standard features of the Laramie. It's a marketing scheme to create a different trim that is supposed to be unique to Canadians. But you can now order a Sport appearance package on the Laramie to make it look like a Sport, it just doesn't have the "Sport" badging.
6of36
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That's insanity. US it was the same price. For 23 they eliminated the non etorque, and after January, the ecodiesel.Canadian RAM build pricing website. Prices have climbed in the last year for e/Torque up here for some reason while our idiot government have been pushing hard on manufacturers to increase "green" options and tax those of us without "green" features even more. Actual dealer price will be less, but similar options with the e/Torque was about 3k more last year, and about $1500 two years ago. Even at $3000 last year it would take ten years of ownership to break even and you still haven't made a blip on the environmental radar. And now at nearly 9k upgrade, it's a complete joke and you'll never get that investment back unless you can squeeze 30 years out of your truck with daily driving.
Choose Your Ram 1500 | Ram Canada
Select a Ram 1500 from our lineup to customize. Build, price, and search local dealer inventory to find your new Ram vehicle.
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And if you build a Limited it's a $1495 upgrade:
Choose Your Ram 1500 | Ram Canada
Select a Ram 1500 from our lineup to customize. Build, price, and search local dealer inventory to find your new Ram vehicle.
View attachment 154052
Welcome to Canaduh...the land of high prices and higher taxes...
6of36
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Canada has Sport, instead of Bighorn/Lonestar.
No, Canadian sport is much more close to Laramie.
mikeru82
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I've seen used Sport's on dealership lots in the US where they stated it was a Rebel. I laughed until I saw the window sticker said it was a Sport/Rebel. The lines seem to be a little blurred in Canada as far as different trim levels go. Here's one example...
And here's the window sticker for that truck...
2019 Ram 1500 Rebel - cars & trucks - by dealer - vehicle automotive...
Vehicle Description 2019 Ram 1500 - Call Today: Ram 1500 Information Year: 2019 Make: Ram Model: 1500 Stock Number: 15524 Odometer: 101509 This Ram 1500 is competitively priced to provide our...
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And here's the window sticker for that truck...
Canada has Bighorn started from 49K, Sport starts from 61K.
6of36
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American Laramies don't come standard with colored bumpers, and come standard with a lot more than the Canadian Sport. Canadian trucks are way different than US trucks. Ours don't have standard v8 until Limited. Your sport is basically still our Bighorn, with a couple additional standard features like the engine and power seats standard.
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Idahoktm
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6of36
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They are an option. I edited my previous post to not standard.
I dunno, the Sport comes standard with just about everything the Laramie has plus body colour bumpers and handles, automatic high beams, leather buckets with 12-way power, 12" screen, forward collision braking, rain sensitive wipers, 20" polished rims, block heater, and probably a few others I can't think of right now. This is all stock for the Sport trim while Laramies have those available as options or in packages, but I don't believe they're stock. I'd say it's a higher trim level than the US Laramie. However, here in Canada the Laramie is a higher trim level than the Sport but is still missing a few features...it's a bit messed up. I would think keeping all the trims the same would be cheaper and easier.
