....yes, RAM sold me a 60 thousand dollar truck with a tablespoon worth of windshield washing fluid
ahhhh, gotchya. Yep, that seems to be the case
The 2019 Ram 1500 4×4 Off-Road Package now stands alone and includes a one-inch suspension lift, with or without the available air suspension.
My guess (and it could be wrong) is that the off road package sits one inch higher than a regular DT.
My guess (and I could be wrong) air suspension doesn't offer a "lift" it offers a park mode, a ride mode, and aerodynamic mode. And it levels the truck with load.
My guess (and I could be wrong) if the old air suspension did add a "lift" it doesn't anymore and is why it isn't standard on the Rebel anymore.
Here is a past discusion and the list of settings.entry/exit, Aero, Normal, and Off-Road I
Yeah, so I have 5 lights that come up when I crank the truck, but if I get to OR and push up to go to OR2, it tells me ride height not permitted.
Ok so OR is OR 2 but OR2 is disabled...makes sense.Here is a past discusion and the list of settings.
I don't know what happened to the other quote I had, but you can see it in the other thread.
Entry/exit, ORP is one inch higher
Areo mode, ORP is one inch higher
Normal, ORP is one inch higher
OR1 is skipped on ORP
OR2 becomes OR1 on ORP and then all trucks are the same.
My thoughts, hasn't been verified...well almost now.
Here is a past discusion and the list of settings.
I don't know what happened to the other quote I had, but you can see it in the other thread.
Entry/exit, ORP is one inch higher
Areo mode, ORP is one inch higher
Normal, ORP is one inch higher
OR1 is skipped on ORP
OR2 becomes OR1 on ORP and then all trucks are the same.
My thoughts, hasn't been verified...well almost now.
This aligns with other posts suggesting that non-Rebels with the Off Road group will have the same air suspension options as Rebels (i.e. only 1 OR mode).Not sure if they changed the air suspension or if it has something to do with the 4x4 off road group, but mine doesn't have OR2. It has entry/exit, Aero, Normal, and Off-Road I didn't find the offroad setting to be harsh at all, took the bumps very well. Was not traveling very fast, probably 10MPH or less.
The OR2 setting in my Grand Cherokee was brutal, I’m not going to miss it.This aligns with other posts suggesting that non-Rebels with the Off Road group will have the same air suspension options as Rebels (i.e. only 1 OR mode).
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I can't recall now who it was, but someone posted pictures a while back with a measuring tape on the running boards of a Limited with the OR Package in entry/exit and highest position.Ok so OR is OR 2 but OR2 is disabled...makes sense.
Still odd that one inch disappeared
I can't recall now who it was, but someone posted pictures a while back with a measuring tape on the running boards of a Limited with the OR Package in entry/exit and highest position.
Several of us came to the conclusion that since the lowest and highest positions were identical between ORP and not, that Ram changed the air suspension via programming to remove normal and make OR1 the new normal. You can still hit normal aero and entry/exit but you only have one OR mode as normal is now the non-ORP OR1.
If this is not the case I'd love to know as I was going to heavily bribe the service manager to see if I can get it changed back to the normal 5 position air suspension option (i.e. lose the ORP 1" lift for better mileage.). If possible, it also means non-ORP trucks with air suspension could get the ORP 1" lift via a programming change.
Everyone's after something different. I do mostly highway miles so the lower ride pays off but when I do want OR capability, the non-ORP heights (OR1 & OR2) would work just fine and I don't foresee driving fast enough for them to cancel. With the ORP where normal is the old OR1, you are always driving at that height unless aero kicks in at faster speed.Does this make ORP less compelling to folks? I was considering it for the combination of the slightly more aggressive tires and 1" lift.