What will you use your RAM for?

[alwi228]

....yes, RAM sold me a 60 thousand dollar truck with a tablespoon worth of windshield washing fluid

 

[immersivenc]

ahhhh, gotchya. Yep, that seems to be the case

Yeah, so I have 5 lights that come up when I crank the truck, but if I get to OR and push up to go to OR2, it tells me ride height not permitted.

 

[devildodge]

The 2019 Ram 1500 4×4 Off-Road Package now stands alone and includes a one-inch suspension lift, with or without the available air suspension.

My guess (and it could be wrong) is that the off road package sits one inch higher than a regular DT.

My guess (and I could be wrong) air suspension doesn't offer a "lift" it offers a park mode, a ride mode, and aerodynamic mode. And it levels the truck with load.

My guess (and I could be wrong) if the old air suspension did add a "lift" it doesn't anymore and is why it isn't standard on the Rebel anymore.

entry/exit, Aero, Normal, and Off-Road I

Here is a past discusion and the list of settings.

I don't know what happened to the other quote I had, but you can see it in the other thread.

Entry/exit, ORP is one inch higher

Areo mode, ORP is one inch higher

Normal, ORP is one inch higher

OR1 is skipped on ORP

OR2 becomes OR1 on ORP and then all trucks are the same.

My thoughts, hasn't been verified...well almost now.

 

[devildodge]

Yeah, so I have 5 lights that come up when I crank the truck, but if I get to OR and push up to go to OR2, it tells me ride height not permitted.

Here is a past discusion and the list of settings.

I don't know what happened to the other quote I had, but you can see it in the other thread.

Entry/exit, ORP is one inch higher

Areo mode, ORP is one inch higher

Normal, ORP is one inch higher

OR1 is skipped on ORP

OR2 becomes OR1 on ORP and then all trucks are the same.

My thoughts, hasn't been verified...well almost now.

Ok so OR is OR 2 but OR2 is disabled...makes sense.

Still odd that one inch disappeared

 

[immersivenc]

Here is a past discusion and the list of settings.

I don't know what happened to the other quote I had, but you can see it in the other thread.

Entry/exit, ORP is one inch higher

Areo mode, ORP is one inch higher

Normal, ORP is one inch higher

OR1 is skipped on ORP

OR2 becomes OR1 on ORP and then all trucks are the same.

My thoughts, hasn't been verified...well almost now.

Yep, that appears to be the case. It is strange... wonder if it's a limitation of the air bags or maybe suspension geometry with shocks, etc.

 

[ExcursionDiesel]

Maybe they limited the highest "OR2" to eleminate the harsh clunking from the airbags being topped out. I'd rather have the clunking with extra clearance.

 

[SpeedyV]

Not sure if they changed the air suspension or if it has something to do with the 4x4 off road group, but mine doesn't have OR2. It has entry/exit, Aero, Normal, and Off-Road I didn't find the offroad setting to be harsh at all, took the bumps very well. Was not traveling very fast, probably 10MPH or less.

This aligns with other posts suggesting that non-Rebels with the Off Road group will have the same air suspension options as Rebels (i.e. only 1 OR mode).

 

[Zeronet]

Here’s the main reason I need a truck.

 

[RT70808]

Daily driver, visit customers, park it outside, tow the boat, hunting trips, make the Home Depot trips. ~25k miles a year I fish pretty much any weekend the forecast cooperates 12 months out of the year. That’s why they call Louisiana sportsman’s paradise!

 

[RT70808]

This aligns with other posts suggesting that non-Rebels with the Off Road group will have the same air suspension options as Rebels (i.e. only 1 OR mode).

The OR2 setting in my Grand Cherokee was brutal, I’m not going to miss it.

 

[devildodge]

Here’s the main reason I need a truck. View attachment 1492

What our trucks love to do. And what our family really enjoys.

 

[VaderRebel]

Everything.

 

[Edwards]

Ok so OR is OR 2 but OR2 is disabled...makes sense.

Still odd that one inch disappeared

I can't recall now who it was, but someone posted pictures a while back with a measuring tape on the running boards of a Limited with the OR Package in entry/exit and highest position.
Several of us came to the conclusion that since the lowest and highest positions were identical between ORP and not, that Ram changed the air suspension via programming to remove normal and make OR1 the new normal. You can still hit normal aero and entry/exit but you only have one OR mode as normal is now the non-ORP OR1.
If this is not the case I'd love to know as I was going to heavily bribe the service manager to see if I can get it changed back to the normal 5 position air suspension option (i.e. lose the ORP 1" lift for better mileage.). If possible, it also means non-ORP trucks with air suspension could get the ORP 1" lift via a programming change.

 

[nerdrock]

Driveway Queen. It hurts having a barn-style garage that's configured in such a way that your shiny truck doesn't fit inside. Otherwise: The Ram is a work commuting, motorcycle hauling, small trailer pulling, comfy trip taking, dog paw print attracting very soon to be baby protector.

 

[BostonBlueRam]

I can't recall now who it was, but someone posted pictures a while back with a measuring tape on the running boards of a Limited with the OR Package in entry/exit and highest position.
Several of us came to the conclusion that since the lowest and highest positions were identical between ORP and not, that Ram changed the air suspension via programming to remove normal and make OR1 the new normal. You can still hit normal aero and entry/exit but you only have one OR mode as normal is now the non-ORP OR1.
If this is not the case I'd love to know as I was going to heavily bribe the service manager to see if I can get it changed back to the normal 5 position air suspension option (i.e. lose the ORP 1" lift for better mileage.). If possible, it also means non-ORP trucks with air suspension could get the ORP 1" lift via a programming change.

Does this make ORP less compelling to folks? I was considering it for the combination of the slightly more aggressive tires and 1" lift.

 

[Edwards]

Does this make ORP less compelling to folks? I was considering it for the combination of the slightly more aggressive tires and 1" lift.

Everyone's after something different. I do mostly highway miles so the lower ride pays off but when I do want OR capability, the non-ORP heights (OR1 & OR2) would work just fine and I don't foresee driving fast enough for them to cancel. With the ORP where normal is the old OR1, you are always driving at that height unless aero kicks in at faster speed.

It's easily possible that the dealer can't reprogram it so I will happily live with it. But if they can change it via programming, I'm quite interested. I will give the ORP ride a few weeks test drive before I cause them trouble though. Also, my wife says I'm overly picky and when there is an adjustment possible, I like to adjust it my way.