Agreed. As imperfect as these RamBox lids might be, FCA is unlikely to prioritize a redesign or source yet another supplier, especially during/following COVID-19.
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Update: DO NOT BUY RAM WITH RAMBOX - Warping and Alignment Issue with 2019 Rams
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Prob not. More cupholders may be a higher priority than this...
The Subaru Ascent has 19 cupholders. FCA can do better.
That’s surprising. The HDs use the old beds and metal lids...much better construction than the new 1/2-tons. Has something changed in the past month or two?
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Thanks for clarifying!Nope, the whole lid is definitely plastic
I will say, though...that thing looks like a BEAST compared to the 1/2-ton version. Maybe it's just the angle.
mikeru82
Legendary member
The rambox is the same between LD and HD trucks. The difference you're seeing is in the design between 4th gen and 5th gen ramboxes. Ram went with another vendor to supply the rambox for the 5th gens. Feels and looks much less substantial on the new ones.
Well how about that. I thought that they'd be keeping the old boxes (since RamBoxes are not made for the long-bed 1/2-tons).
(I posted about the new vendor for the 5th-gen 1/2-tons back in 2018. But I appreciate the HD info.)
Diamondback
Ram Guru
I've tested some of my "thoughts" out on how the warpage effects the thinner painted sides. Depending on the cold or heat of the day, they "warp" .. that long with the misfit of the top black plastic not properly secured to the painted instance.
On a side note, I saw this 2020 on the lot today (yes, I had to work on a Sunday for the first time every) :
Look how clean these are (cleaner than mine when I picked mine up last Aug) ...
On a side note, I saw this 2020 on the lot today (yes, I had to work on a Sunday for the first time every) :
Look how clean these are (cleaner than mine when I picked mine up last Aug) ...
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Diamondback
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The warping comes from the seam of the 2 major parts not having enough surface material to mate with.
If you purchase a new set (or have the dealership replace them), you have to separate the painted portion and that black upper portion -- which is still going to cause an issue as the 3M tape won't be enough to secure the 2 pieces together - even if clamped in a vise all night.
For mine, I also noticed that the painted section is so thin, that the heat and cold effect those as well :
so what I did was mark where there were some possible areas to add some "bump stops" : adjustable with set screws
This was taken prior to backing out the set screw another 3mm for near perfect alignment
The top ones made very little difference, so I added a set at the white arrow (front and rear) .. I coulda just used the sticky ones, but I wanted to be able to always adjust.
For the top portion (which nearly everyone complains about the most), that is still a work-in-progress without ripping one apart (and not being able to order a play-test set).
I have a printed sheet showing how those are to be put together, but am not gonna rip mine apart and ruin them -- I will once I have a replacement ready
I made a set of "ends" that bolt in on the upper part of the hinge and ride up to the top portion shown above. It helps, but another design in my head will be a lot stronger when "slamming" the boxes closed.
If you purchase a new set (or have the dealership replace them), you have to separate the painted portion and that black upper portion -- which is still going to cause an issue as the 3M tape won't be enough to secure the 2 pieces together - even if clamped in a vise all night.
For mine, I also noticed that the painted section is so thin, that the heat and cold effect those as well :
so what I did was mark where there were some possible areas to add some "bump stops" : adjustable with set screws
This was taken prior to backing out the set screw another 3mm for near perfect alignment
The top ones made very little difference, so I added a set at the white arrow (front and rear) .. I coulda just used the sticky ones, but I wanted to be able to always adjust.
For the top portion (which nearly everyone complains about the most), that is still a work-in-progress without ripping one apart (and not being able to order a play-test set).
I have a printed sheet showing how those are to be put together, but am not gonna rip mine apart and ruin them -- I will once I have a replacement ready
I made a set of "ends" that bolt in on the upper part of the hinge and ride up to the top portion shown above. It helps, but another design in my head will be a lot stronger when "slamming" the boxes closed.
Its cleaner (def. better than mine), but in the second pic, you can see there are already alignment issues.
mikeru82
Legendary member
Do you have a picture of the lower corners with the "bumps" installed? What exactly did you use and where did you get them?
Got mine fixed. The dealer sent me to a body shop and covered the work under warranty. Both the lids and the boxes were replaced. The new lids had a completely different design. Instead of being held together with double sided tape, the new lids use steel clamps and screws. I've got my fingers crossed. It has only been two weeks, but it still looks good.
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Ellisstrong
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Any more info on what yours looked like before? What did they submit as the issue? Any before and after pics?
Do you have any pics of those? How about some part numbers?
We need more information on this new and improved Rambox lid. I wasn’t going to bother having mine replaced with the same ol thing but if they have improved the design you better believe I want them replaced. Parts number, pics and any other documentation to show the service manager would be awesome!
Diamondback
Ram Guru
2nd pic was before mumping back out the 3mm I stated ..
Not yet, totally forgot ..
I grabbed a set of these and used various to get the proper alignment.
8mm (5mm was perfect for the winter) Summer -- I wanted the adjustable kind like the upper portion uses, but they weren't as use friendly. I was using "stickable" ones to find the depth I wanted for mine. Each person's will more than likely be different - thus the reason I was trying to locate adjustable.
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I'll def. need to hit up my parts department and turn mine in for them as well. I still need to get mine seam sealed as well.
mikeru82
Legendary member
Might I add...pretty please with sugar on top!
Here are the "before" shots. I'll send the afters tomorrow. I am not sure where to get part numbers. Perhaps the body shop will send me a copy of the paperwork. All I did was sigh a paper when I dropped it off, and another when I picked it up.
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