towing capacities

[boatbug]

hi looking at 2020 ram 1500 what are the differences in equipment besides 321 gears vs 394 gears to in crease towing capacity by 3000 lbs

 

[JJRamTX]

The 3.21 to 3.92 gears I believe increases the towing by 2,000 lbs. Everything else to increase towing capacity is based on the wheelbase/cab configuration, trim level, and options of the truck (Curb Weight of the truck). Tradesman standard cab short bed, 5.7 hemi, 3.92 gears, 4x2 has the most towing capacity if no additional options adding weight are configured.

 

[Ramroo]

Do some digging on payload. The payload is usually limiting number.

 

[devildodge]

That is the one and only difference. 3.92 allows the truck to have 17000 GCWR while 3.21 is only 13900.

Any other discrepancy would be on added options affecting base weight.

 

[boatbug]

That is the one and only difference. 3.92 allows the truck to have 17000 GCWR while 3.21 is only 13900.

Any other discrepancy would be on added options affecting base weight.

thanks , that's what i was finding looking at window stickers from vin# , but wasn't sure if one of option packages upgraded suspension ? or Brakes,

 

[boatbug]

The 3.21 to 3.92 gears I believe increases the towing by 2,000 lbs. Everything else to increase towing capacity is based on the wheelbase/cab configuration, trim level, and options of the truck (Curb Weight of the truck). Tradesman standard cab short bed, 5.7 hemi, 3.92 gears, 4x2 has the most towing capacity if no additional options adding weight are configured.

that's what i was finding , so same truck ( Big Horn crew cab, 6'box ,5.7 hemi ,4x4 ,) with similar option package listed in window sticker , i am looking at , the gears 321vs 394 , is the only change for towing capacity increase ?

 

[boatbug]

That is the one and only difference. 3.92 allows the truck to have 17000 GCWR while 3.21 is only 13900.

Any other discrepancy would be on added options affecting base weight.

that's what i keep finding looking at window stickers from vin # , wasn't sure if I was overlooking something ? were they changing front or rear coil suspension ?

 

[JF19Longhorn]

The yellow door sticker with the payload rating for that exact truck, will have a larger impact on what you can 'legally' tow vs the rear gearing.

Very rarely can a 1500 handle anywhere close to the tow rating you see on their websites and commercials.

Example: My truck has an advertised tow rating of 11,900lbs (I think?) with the 3.92's. I only have a 1290lbs payload.. payload is everything you put in & on the truck. People, Fuel, Hitch weight, Tongue weight, bed cover, misc. tools, etc. With a 200lbs driver, 100lb hitch, 150 +/- lbs. of fuel, and lets say 50lbs of misc. crap in my truck, that only leaves me 790lbs of payload. On a really light estimate of only 10% tongue weight (790lbs.), that means I can only realistically a trailer that is less than 7,900lbs. I cannot put ANYTHING else in the truck.. people, luggage, etc.

**Again, this is 'legally' what a truck can tow. Not that towing more will instantly cause the earth to stop rotating**

 

[WXman]

At the end of the day, it's marketing. The 3.92 axle gives you 300 more RPM and POOF magically you can tow 2,000 lbs. more weight? Get outta' here...

It's all marketing. Trying to push more options on people. Ford is really bad about that. The F-250 and F-350 are literally identical in how you can configure them, but the official GVWR is stamped differently on the stickers. When you buy a 350, you're buying a sticker.

 

[nc_beagle]

The yellow door sticker with the payload rating for that exact truck, will have a larger impact on what you can 'legally' tow vs the rear gearing.

Very rarely can a 1500 handle anywhere close to the tow rating you see on their websites and commercials.

Example: My truck has an advertised tow rating of 11,900lbs (I think?) with the 3.92's. I only have a 1290lbs payload.. payload is everything you put in & on the truck. People, Fuel, Hitch weight, Tongue weight, bed cover, misc. tools, etc. With a 200lbs driver, 100lb hitch, 150 +/- lbs. of fuel, and lets say 50lbs of misc. crap in my truck, that only leaves me 790lbs of payload. On a really light estimate of only 10% tongue weight (790lbs.), that means I can only realistically a trailer that is less than 7,900lbs. I cannot put ANYTHING else in the truck.. people, luggage, etc.

**Again, this is 'legally' what a truck can tow. Not that towing more will instantly cause the earth to stop rotating**

I'm pretty sure fuel (at least in the tank) is included in the payload figure on the door sticker. It assumes a full tank of gas/diesel and full DEF in the diesels.

 

[Eighty]

I'm pretty sure fuel (at least in the tank) is included in the payload figure on the door sticker. It assumes a full tank of gas/diesel and full DEF in the diesels.

Correct. Full fluids is already included in the base weight. Occupants and cargo are the numbers you subtract from total payload capacity.

 

[Darksteel165]

Should weigh your truck to get your real payload. It's cheap to do and you know exactly what is going on as everything adds up.

 

[Threesuns1]

Towing Capacity by Engine​

The 2022 RAM 1500 comes with a variety of engine options to suit your towing needs.

Engines	Axle Ratio	GCWR	Max. Towing Capacity
3.6L Pentastar V6 eTorque	3.21	11,900 lbs	6,760 lbs
3.6L Pentastar V6 eTorque	3.55	12,900 lbs	7,700 lbs
3.0L EcoDiesel V6	3.21	13,900 lbs	8,140 lbs
3.0L EcoDiesel V6	3.92	15,600 lbs	9,840 lbs
3.0L EcoDiesel V6	3.92	18,200 lbs	12,560 lbs
5.7L HEMI V8	3.21	13,900 lbs	8,490 lbs
5.7L HEMI V8	3.92	17,000 lbs	11,590 lbs
5.7L HEMI V8 eTorque	3.21	13,900 lbs	8,450 lbs
5.7L HEMI V8 eTorque	3.92	17,000 lbs	11,550 lbs
5.7L HEMI V8 eTorque	3.92	18,350 lbs	12,750 lbs
6.2L Supercharge HEMI V8	3.55	15,160 lbs	8,100 lbs

2022 RAM 1500 Towing Capacity Chart

3.6L Pentastar V6 eTorque engine​

 

[bigdodge]

it's a half ton truck

 

[devildodge]

Max towing number means nothing.

There is a whole list of rules for why the 3.92 gets more GCWR than the 3.21.

There is no marketing magic in the GCWR number.

Max towing and max payload are mutually exclusive. You can not have both.

See my original answer on this thread

Nothing more, nothing less.

This towing thing is really easy when you avoid the word MAX!

 

[boatbug]

That is the one and only difference. 3.92 allows the truck to have 17000 GCWR while 3.21 is only 13900.

Any other discrepancy would be on added options affecting base weight.

thanks , i have a 2019 quad cab with 3.92 , looking move up to a never truck , with crew cab 6' box , but most have 321 gears , and if you look at door stickers they are mostly same , its not until you go to a tow guide site with vin# , do you see actual capacity , do i need 392s, tow my travel trailer 7000lbs on some trips .

 

[boatbug]

Max towing number means nothing.

There is a whole list of rules for why the 3.92 gets more GCWR than the 3.21.

There is no marketing magic in the GCWR number.

Max towing and max payload are mutually exclusive. You can not have both.

See my original answer on this thread

Nothing more, nothing less.

This towing thing is really easy when you avoid the word MAX!

yes i understand that , but past the gears , is there any difference ? springs , frame , sway bars ? or just gears , same 5.7 v8, 8 speed trans.

 

[Richard320]

yes i understand that , but past the gears , is there any difference ? springs , frame , sway bars ? or just gears , same 5.7 v8, 8 speed trans.

Gearing. Period.

 

[Ramroo]

yes i understand that , but past the gears , is there any difference ? springs , frame , sway bars ? or just gears , same 5.7 v8, 8 speed trans.

Fictional masculinity

 

[devildodge]

yes i understand that , but past the gears , is there any difference ? springs , frame , sway bars ? or just gears , same 5.7 v8, 8 speed trans.

My reply was to all the conflicting info and opinions.

The gear ratio is the only difference.

It is the ability to get the load rolling on grade and extra available engine braking.