Darksteel165
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Why don't you share information then.
Those 2 posts do nothing to contribute to the conversation except letting us know you will pay money for pictures of trucks.
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tonneau covers that work with the multifunction tailgate?
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Those 2 posts do nothing to contribute to the conversation except letting us know you will pay money for pictures of trucks.
mhb1638
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Because I was going to forward the test to you in a text, but since you want to ask like that...wtf? I paid for pictures on instructions and trying to save you guys money, but I guess you want to be an ***
You take the front rail and cut a 11" long 3/4" deep cut out of the rail to it sits perfectly on top of the right on bracket. There ya go.
Darksteel165
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My truck and all trucks of my year don't even have a bracket.
It's better to know what truck people are talking about as they are all very different depending on year and build.
Sorry if I missed you saying you didn't have a 2022.
mhb1638
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Fair enough. Its for 2022 rams with the MFT and have the brackets in front of the truck..
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New1500customram
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Darksteel165
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Same.
Aint no brackets on mine.
You see any weather stripping behind your silver rail where your rambox connects?
New1500customram
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No, but there could be a thin strip that i can not see, might be why the company that i orderes my cover from said they will not say its water proof if i have the MFT. But i was thinking that was because of the gaps at the MFT. So i odered rhe weather seals for the MFT off of Amazon
Darksteel165
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I put weatherstrip behind my silver rails when I installed it, still not even close to water proof, I wouldn't even call it water resistant.
The black rails my truck came with had a weather seal built in (not stick on)
I used this stuff that seemed like it should work good, but is actually crap.
"Suitable choice to create a watertight seal" my ****
New1500customram
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Well I am putting on a cover to lock stuff up. Not sleep there so a little water should not matter for my needsI put weatherstrip behind my silver rails when I installed it, still not even close to water proof, I wouldn't even call it water resistant.
The black rails my truck came with had a weather seal built in (not stick on)
I used this stuff that seemed like it should work good, but is actually crap.
"Suitable choice to create a watertight seal" my ****
Darksteel165
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That's why I swapped from the soft trifold my truck came with.
Problem is water just pours in from the sides to the point cargo is secure, but not dry because of how much water gets in. My cargo divider had water half way up because the water was actually splashing during a rain storm that it splashed up. Kinda surprising to be honest how how it was (in the middle of my bed)
I found this thread BakFlip MX4 & Rambox fitment? that discusses the silver rails leaking and they used a different weatherstripping then me.
Next weekend i'm going to bite the bullet and spend the 3 hours removing my cover and rails and ill just use a bead of Black Silicone because I don't want to be screwing around with this anymore
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Lurts
Post #808 mentions it. However, seems like brackets are needed. I am also looking into the X4S cover. BakFlip said it won't fit trucks with the black rails, only the silver ones. I was just about did on getting that cover too. Don't want to spend more $ on other rails or adapters to make it compatible though.
Initially looked at the diamondback, then renegade (no ram box option though), and then thought the X4S would be the go to option. Back to the forums and online searching.
I didn't search all 43 pages of this thread yet!
Post #808 mentions it. However, seems like brackets are needed. I am also looking into the X4S cover. BakFlip said it won't fit trucks with the black rails, only the silver ones. I was just about did on getting that cover too. Don't want to spend more $ on other rails or adapters to make it compatible though.
Initially looked at the diamondback, then renegade (no ram box option though), and then thought the X4S would be the go to option. Back to the forums and online searching.
I didn't search all 43 pages of this thread yet!
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Thanks for your response!
This thread is primarily for trucks with MFT and NO Ramboxes I believe. They are two very distinct situations. The extra bulk from the Ramboxes either prevented Ram from needing to add the L bracket, or allowed it to be hidden, so Right On brackets are a non-issue for you. I also believe the black vs silver rail situation is unique to Ramboxes.
To that end, I believe almost all covers work for you just fine with the Ramboxes. The problem with the MFT is solely due to the L brackets, which only affects those of us without Ramboxes.
This thread is primarily for trucks with MFT and NO Ramboxes I believe. They are two very distinct situations. The extra bulk from the Ramboxes either prevented Ram from needing to add the L bracket, or allowed it to be hidden, so Right On brackets are a non-issue for you. I also believe the black vs silver rail situation is unique to Ramboxes.
To that end, I believe almost all covers work for you just fine with the Ramboxes. The problem with the MFT is solely due to the L brackets, which only affects those of us without Ramboxes.
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Darksteel165
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All of this is accurate until the end.
NO COVERS WILL WORK FINE FOR HIM.
He needs to completely remove his rails and purchase new rails.
The ONLY COVER that will work for him with black rails is the Mopar SOFT Tri-fold cover.
This is the part number for it 82215862
I got a spare one if you want it in MA xD
This is a copy and paste from store.mopar.com
Description: Utility rails that run across the fore-aft direction in the bed. These rails only are applicable to the soft trifold tonneau cover offered through the factory on 5'7 bed with Rambox. Replaces: 82215810.
These are the "silver rails" that are so important that Ram decided to not provide them to you when you bought your tuck.
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Another interesting thing is there are install instructions for the black rails but not the silver rails, so I have no idea what is used to get a "factory seal" it also doesn't come with screw so you need to re-use your existing screws in your black rails. Specs on the black rails report 7.7 ft lb torque.
This is one of my threads if you want to see pictures of the abomination that Ram provided us poor Rambox guys
Are there no bed covers made for a 2022 1500 Limited with ramboxes and mft?
Title says it all. Went to install a Gatorax retractable bed cover today and it's not possible to mount it on my truck. The instructions for a 2019 ram with ramboxes doesn't match my truck and upon looking myself I don't hlknow how ANY Cover can fit except the soft one it came with. Anyone...
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I'm currently pissing in water on both sides behind the rails as Ram doesn't provide any kind of seal and the black rails have a seal built in. The weatherstipping I got just isn't up to snuff and it takes me around an 2 hours with 2 people to take my cover off and change the weatherstipping (and then keep the truck dry for a few days so it has time to set).
I'm 1000% not salty about buying a $80k truck and needing to spend $400 on rails to be allowed to use a secure cover on it.
If you don't need security get the Mopar soft tri-fold. It's actually a really good cover and comes right off in under 30 seconds if you need full bed access. Unfortunately I can't use a soft cover due to having snowstorms up here and carry equipment that dwarfs the price of my truck that would be very bad if was stolen by some hoodlum with a box cutter.
mhb1638
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Bakflip MX4 fits. You have to modify the bakflip rails to make it work tho. I posted a few pages back on it.
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Appreciate the feedback. Spending another $400 for the silver rails to work with other covers bumps up the overall price by about 40% just to put a cover on, so about $1,400 for a variety of covers. Then, there is the potential weather striping issue. Unless another option becomes available, I may just go ahead with the Diamondback...it's just a little more. Not a big fan that it is about a 3" rise over the bed though. Liked the sleek look of the flush covers.All of this is accurate until the end.
NO COVERS WILL WORK FINE FOR HIM.
He needs to completely remove his rails and purchase new rails.
The ONLY COVER that will work for him with black rails is the Mopar SOFT Tri-fold cover.
This is the part number for it 82215862
I got a spare one if you want it in MA xD
This is a copy and paste from store.mopar.com
Description: Utility rails that run across the fore-aft direction in the bed. These rails only are applicable to the soft trifold tonneau cover offered through the factory on 5'7 bed with Rambox. Replaces: 82215810.
These are the "silver rails" that are so important that Ram decided to not provide them to you when you bought your tuck.
68027049AD
68027048AD
Another interesting thing is there are install instructions for the black rails but not the silver rails, so I have no idea what is used to get a "factory seal" it also doesn't come with screw so you need to re-use your existing screws in your black rails. Specs on the black rails report 7.7 ft lb torque.
This is one of my threads if you want to see pictures of the abomination that Ram provided us poor Rambox guys
Are there no bed covers made for a 2022 1500 Limited with ramboxes and mft?
Title says it all. Went to install a Gatorax retractable bed cover today and it's not possible to mount it on my truck. The instructions for a 2019 ram with ramboxes doesn't match my truck and upon looking myself I don't hlknow how ANY Cover can fit except the soft one it came with. Anyone...
I'm currently pissing in water on both sides behind the rails as Ram doesn't provide any kind of seal and the black rails have a seal built in. The weatherstipping I got just isn't up to snuff and it takes me around an 2 hours with 2 people to take my cover off and change the weatherstipping (and then keep the truck dry for a few days so it has time to set).
I'm 1000% not salty about buying a $80k truck and needing to spend $400 on rails to be allowed to use a secure cover on it.
If you don't need security get the Mopar soft tri-fold. It's actually a really good cover and comes right off in under 30 seconds if you need full bed access. Unfortunately I can't use a soft cover due to having snowstorms up here and carry equipment that dwarfs the price of my truck that would be very bad if was stolen by some hoodlum with a box cutter.
Any feedback from Diamondback HD/SE owners with Rambox/MFTs?
Darksteel165
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I'm currently up to $2100 for my $1600 Gatotrax\Retrax retractable cover.
I would recommend you make a new thread about the Diamondback, I love the way those ones look I don't mind the rise over the cover but i have never actually owned one.
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Thanks and sorry you are going through this same situation. I may just have to start a specific thread for the Diamondback. Would prefer a Renegade cover, but it's a no go with Ramboxes...and that doesn't even consider the black vs silver rail situation. Hard to imagine why all these trucks didn't ship with the same rails and make the stock Mopar folding cover work with say....the silver rails. Then they only need to make silver rails and customers would be in this situation for upgrades.
Another future upgrade, tailgate LED light bar (Putco blade) I'm looking to put on...similar situation. According to the threads, I'll likely have to put in some spacers to compensate for a non-flush mounting surface. Not just buy the item and put it on. I guess that's part of taking some pride in making it all come together, but still.
