Stellantis CEO Resigns

[HSKR R/T]

And I’d happily drop any SO with my ethanol’d and turbo-swapped ecoboost. Should just edge out an HO as well.


…. That said I still can’t wait for the tuners to crack the Hurricane. Old habits die hard.

Typical comment of "my modded vehicle is faster than your stock one". I know you were just being facetious with the comment.

And there is an aftermarket piggy back tuning option for the Hurricane already that claim to offer up to 100hp gain.

 

[CalvinC]

Typical comment of "my modded vehicle is faster than your stock one". I know you were just being facetious with the comment.

And there is an aftermarket piggy back tuning option for the Hurricane already that claim to offer up to 100hp gain.

Exactly… it never ends.

I’ve seen that option from Burger and have to admit it’s tempting. But then I remind myself to not to go back down that rabbit hole…

But as piggybacks go they have a good reputation, at least in the EcoBoost and VW/Audi worlds. I wouldn’t hesitate to try it if I owned a Hurricane.

 

[Phoon]

Exactly… it never ends.

I’ve seen that option from Burger and have to admit it’s tempting. But then I remind myself to not to go back down that rabbit hole…

But as piggybacks go they have a good reputation, at least in the EcoBoost and VW/Audi worlds. I wouldn’t hesitate to try it if I owned a Hurricane.

The JB4 is super tempting. Would love to hear some feedback from a 2025 ram owner on their experience with the Burger/ JB4.

 

[CalvinC]

…. Sorry for the derail.

Though “V8’s are central to the CDJR brand…” angle here then I suppose this would come up.

I’m simply recommending a 2 State (engine) solution. Let people choose what is important to them.

 

[silver billet]

And I’d happily drop any SO with my ethanol’d and turbo-swapped ecoboost. Should just edge out an HO as well.

… And any Rivian truck will happily drop me.

As will most high performance German barges that turn 11.x & 12.low second quarters like nothing.

… Point is, there’s always a bigger (faster) fish (truck), and as someone who p!sped away money to make a truck go fast…. I’ve learned that’s the wrong priority for a truck. Just my own opinion.

…. That said I still can’t wait for the tuners to crack the Hurricane. Old habits die hard.

This guy gets it. It's not about 0 to 60. A truck needs to be powerful (which the 5.7 objectively is at ~400 hp), and it needs to be reliable for several hundred thousand miles while being easy to work on (back yard garage), cheap to repair, high availability of used parts etc.

The hemi is all those things. All the hurricane can offer that is an advantage over the hemi is 0 to 60 bragging rights for those who seem to think that's important. And then I just watch them get ornery when some EV blows their doors off.

 

[Dewey]

Breaking…….Hurricane aftermarket exhaust just released

 

[LOWRMPG]

This guy gets it. It's not about 0 to 60. A truck needs to be powerful (which the 5.7 objectively is at ~400 hp), and it needs to be reliable for several hundred thousand miles while being easy to work on (back yard garage), cheap to repair, high availability of used parts etc.

The hemi is all those things. All the hurricane can offer that is an advantage over the hemi is 0 to 60 bragging rights for those who seem to think that's important. And then I just watch them get ornery when some EV blows their doors off.

Anything that is arguably decades old is cheap to repair. And honestly, most EVs under 50k would have a hard time blowing the doors off a HO.

 

[silver billet]

Anything that is arguably decades old is cheap to repair.

Because it's old tech, which is the point. These newer hurricanes are going to be "cab off" for more repairs, you'll have less chance to DIY it all. Turbos are a wear item.

And honestly, most EVs under 50k would have a hard time blowing the doors off a HO.

Well let me know when you find a HO for 50k.

Doing this apples to apples, any truck EV that competes in price with the HO, yes it will blow past the hurricane. Case in point, the F150 lighting which does 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds, or the cybertruck which is 2.6 IIRC.

 

[silver billet]

Breaking…….Hurricane aftermarket exhaust just released

Close enough:

 

[mzflorida]

I’m not sure how anyone thought this would end differently when Tavares was the protege of Nissan’s Ghosn who was removed in disgrace, and was reportedly loathed across the industry…from suppliers to dealers and everyone in between. Apple. Tree.

 

[mzflorida]

I was Dodge brand loyal not because of the hemi, but because of the Cummins. The Cummins
used to be the diesel to have, and many like myself have been loyal for a long time. The hemi did generate the loyalty I guess also, as I do like mine.

The hemi is gone, and the Cummins does not have the appeal that it once had with their engine.
Ram will no longer have brand loyalty from here on IMO.

The rednecks like myself are moving on.

Those are very good points. They have to figure out how to get lots of segments back. Tough row to hoe.

 

[HSKR R/T]

This guy gets it. It's not about 0 to 60. A truck needs to be powerful (which the 5.7 objectively is at ~400 hp), and it needs to be reliable for several hundred thousand miles while being easy to work on (back yard garage), cheap to repair, high availability of used parts etc.

The hemi is all those things. All the hurricane can offer that is an advantage over the hemi is 0 to 60 bragging rights for those who seem to think that's important. And then I just watch them get ornery when some EV blows their doors off.

You realize his whole post was sarcastic in nature. You keep talking about reliability, and cost to repair as if you actually know something everyone else doesn't. The Hemi is not cheap to repair and is plagued with it's own issues that haven't been corrected in 20 years. Add in the mandatory e-torque system on the 23+ trucks, and the MDS system, and it's actually more complicated to work on than the Hurricane.

The Hurricane outperforms the Hemi in every metric, not just 0-60. Quit focusing on speed and acceleration. It tows better due to more low end torque, better fuel mileage, better emissions, smoother...

Quit being so salty because you cant have a loud exhaust to impress other guys with. Because, really, that's the only reason guys out loud exhaust in V8s. To try and show off. You can claim that's not why you do it, but deep down, you want other guys to like how your truck sounds, and probably get s hard in when you get compliments on it.

 

[LOWRMPG]

Because it's old tech, which is the point. These newer hurricanes are going to be "cab off" for more repairs, you'll have less chance to DIY it all. Turbos are a wear item.



Well let me know when you find a HO for 50k.

Doing this apples to apples, any truck EV that competes in price with the HO, yes it will blow past the hurricane. Case in point, the F150 lighting which does 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds, or the cybertruck which is 2.6 IIRC.

It's a joke, don't ride it so hard. I do like how ya quoted two 100k trucks to compete with a 70k truck though But honestly, the HO or SO guys don't care, cause we'd smoke the V8's All in fun.

 

[Ramroo]

Those are very good points. They have to figure out how to get lots of segments back. Tough row to hoe.

Yea, they’re in the short rows too !

 

[silver billet]

It's a joke, don't ride it so hard.

Give it up man, you made a silly comment and got called out for it.

I do like how ya quoted two 100k trucks to compete with a 70k truck though

I like how you think you can find a HO for 50K

Considering you can only find HO's in premium trims, you're quite likely to be in the same ballpark, HO vs EV.

But honestly, the HO or SO guys don't care, cause we'd smoke the V8's All in fun.

The EVs don't care because they smoke the HO. And the Hemi guys don't care because if we did we'd just drop a blower on it and smoke you anyway.

You'll always be able to make more power out of a v8, that's the bottom line. Factory options doesn't mean squat to guys who are serious about making power.

 

[LOWRMPG]

Give it up man, you made a silly comment and got called out for it.


I like how you think you can find a HO for 50K

Considering you can only find HO's in premium trims, you're quite likely to be in the same ballpark, HO vs EV.



The EVs don't care because they smoke the HO. And the Hemi guys don't care because if we did we'd just drop a blower on it and smoke you anyway.

You'll always be able to make more power out of a v8, that's the bottom line. Factory options doesn't mean squat to guys who are serious about making power.

You clearly missed the joke of it all --- and "called out" that's a good one. But by all means, keep going.

 

[LRRP71]

I don't know how this topic turned from the CEO resigning. Still This makes me think of my friend who had a Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0L D-stroked Turbo engine. We put the jeep on a Dyno and it was pushing 403HP to the rear. No idea what it would have been in 4WD. If the Government and tree huggers would keep their hands off stuff. We wouldn't be looking at these 6 and 4 bangers with turbos and superchargers. Trying to keep the HP and Torque in the same area has a V8. I laughed when a 8:1 compression Hemi came out. But I figured if it was a Chrysler I would give it a chance. After some of the stuff I blueprinted and, built in the days of the real Motion Performance cars. But it was always a 427 Hemi or a 426 Wedge that went into these street beasts and rails. EV's sure they are fast, but heavy. I don't even want to go into the damage they do to the environment though not by exhaust fumes. But they are the future for now. It is amazing how down the road, these EV's might be seen has bad for the environment. Sort of like a gas stove in your house which the Government is trying to prove is killing everyone. Along with AC Refrigerants.
Let me go off topic a little more. After my house was destroyed by Sandy. I had it raised with a new improved ICF foundation and walls. I also went and had my old Weil-McLain which was oil and converted to gas before Sandy. Replaced with a Navian NCB-240E Combi Boiler with outdoor reset. Doing my part for the environment. My house was insulated to updated specs. I’m now doing my part saving the world for my kids. So, this technological marvel costs me $350.00 to maintain every 6 months. Since it needs to be flushed and cleaned. I could do it myself, but I blow the warranty if anything happens to it. Which I am sure is going to happen. Outdoor reset which sets water temperature by outdoor temps. Supposed to improve less crap going into the atmosphere. By sending the return water back at 120* or below. So, you need to add a neutralizer filter so the exhaust waters which are acidic don’t destroy your pipes or concrete. Pellets need replacing once a year. I put Nest learning Thermostats up and now I am really doing my part for the world.
Right, I am using more Therms than my old boiler to save the air. Instead of running just when needed and putting poison in the air. It runs 24/7 at a modified fire rate. Yet my house is colder because water supply temps on a 35-degree day are only 150 to 160 degrees. Instead of the 170-180 a 1950 built house needs to stay warm no matter how you insulate it without increasing the amount of elements. You don’t want to know what that would cost. So, I am running space heaters on and off. Increasing my electric bill and causing coal plants to have to run longer to supply my electrical demands. Do you see what I am getting at. You listen to all the things that will make the world better you screw it up in another way. That is what all this Technology and EV’s are doing. The world is not ready for untested mediocre technology. That is pushed onto the consumer that they don’t want at prices we can’t afford. In the name of saving the planet. That’s what all this crap about 6 and 4 cyl turbo engines and EV's are about. 20yrs from now maybe they will have it perfected. Plus, I am venting cause I am throwing more money away to companies to survive. Or fix a vehicle I got to spend $400.00 just in labor at a dealer to diagnose a radio and u connect problem. That I have to leave a week or more just to get looked at. Instead of enjoying my golden years and spending my money on things I need like food.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Give it up man, you made a silly comment and got called out for it.


I like how you think you can find a HO for 50K

Considering you can only find HO's in premium trims, you're quite likely to be in the same ballpark, HO vs EV.



The EVs don't care because they smoke the HO. And the Hemi guys don't care because if we did we'd just drop a blower on it and smoke you anyway.

You'll always be able to make more power out of a v8, that's the bottom line. Factory options doesn't mean squat to guys who are serious about making power.

There's more involved in it than just "dropping a blower on it" if you want it to actually last. Which is why the Hurricane will, more than likely, be reliable, because it was built to be a boosted engine.

 

[Phoon]

Tim Kuniskis Returns to Stellantis as Ram Brand CEO

Tim Kuniskis is returning to lead the Ram Truck brand, effective immediately. Stellantis confirmed the leadership shift as part of a broader restructuring aimed at revitalizing its North American operations following the unexpected resignation of CEO Carlos Tavares last week.

moparinsiders.com

 

[Dewey]

Tim Kuniskis Returns to Stellantis as Ram Brand CEO

Tim Kuniskis is returning to lead the Ram Truck brand, effective immediately. Stellantis confirmed the leadership shift as part of a broader restructuring aimed at revitalizing its North American operations following the unexpected resignation of CEO Carlos Tavares last week.

moparinsiders.com

There might be some hope yet.