Stellantis CEO Resigns

[moosem]

I have a coworker from the UK. He comes to the US regularly and always asks for a V8 pickup as his rental vehicle. I think there are some in Europe that see what they don't have access to. They don't have the infrastructure in many parts of Europe to support a big truck. They can support the engines though with many European vehicles having V8s, V10s and V12s.

He doesn’t opt for the 3L in-line 6? He must be dumb! Hahahah

 

[Ramroo]

Ford took years to get the ecoboost right, and in Canada anyway the 5.0 is still hugely popular.

But Ford is a different brand and customer base than FCA; dodge and ram are built around the hemi. No other brand had stuffed massive and spicy v8's under everything they could. When you wanted that colorful v8, you went to dodge/ram. In one year they gutted it, expecting their existing customer base to .... buy evs? 6 poppers with no soul? You don't need a marketing degree to see the outcome we all predicted.

I was Dodge brand loyal not because of the hemi, but because of the Cummins. The Cummins
used to be the diesel to have, and many like myself have been loyal for a long time. The hemi did generate the loyalty I guess also, as I do like mine.

The hemi is gone, and the Cummins does not have the appeal that it once had with their engine.
Ram will no longer have brand loyalty from here on IMO.

The rednecks like myself are moving on.

 

[Phoon]

He doesn’t opt for the 3L in-line 6? He must be dumb!

He doesn’t opt for the 3L in-line 6? He must be dumb! Hahahah

He would only be dumb if he didn't try both and make an actual judgement. If he prefers the V8 after trying both then I respect that.

 

[moosem]

He would only be dumb if he didn't try both and make an actual judgement. If he prefers the V8 after trying both then I respect that.

The majority of RAM's customers don't want a 6 cyl engine. Period. Does that mean we're all dumb? I guarantee if they still offered the HEMI, it would outsell that garbage 4:1 regardless of the additional 25 HP.

 

[logboom]

Break up Stellantis. Sell RAM,Dodge,Chrysler to an American who understands the American market. Maybe Elon is interested

 

[RebellionisDuty]

Need to do something like that. The French government is in shambles and racking up national debt, but they have a financial stake in all of this. They'll continue to kill it. Need it out of their money-grubbing hands.

 

[silver billet]

Break up Stellantis. Sell RAM,Dodge,Chrysler to an American who understands the American market. Maybe Elon is interested

Please no. I happen to enjoy cars/trucks with an interior and have no interest in battery operated golf carts. Elon can't do anything without his fragile ego getting in the way.

I do agree with the rest 100%. Maybe Chrysler's grandson should get together some actual investors instead of strongly written words on a page. Then put Tim Kuniskis in charge as CEO, the guy who gave us the Hellcat in everything.

 

[logboom]

Please no. I happen to enjoy cars/trucks with an interior and have no interest in battery operated golf carts. Elon can't do anything without his fragile ego getting in the way.

I do agree with the rest 100%. Maybe Chrysler's grandson should get together some actual investors instead of strongly written words on a page. Then put Tim Kuniskis in charge as CEO, the guy who gave us the Hellcat in everything.

The "Elon" part was intended to be in jest.

 

[Dewey]

The majority of RAM's customers don't want a 6 cyl engine. Period. Does that mean we're all dumb? I guarantee if they still offered the HEMI, it would outsell that garbage 4:1 regardless of the additional 25 HP.

Hearing the exhaust note from a V8 with a non-stock exhaust would make that extra 25 hp memory quickly fade away.

 

[silver billet]

Hearing the exhaust note from a V8 with a non-stock exhaust would make that extra 25 hp memory quickly fade away.

The Pulsar claims it adds up to 30 hp. Dyno result I saw verifies this as well.

 

[RebellionisDuty]

Tesla found a solution to add fart noises to vehicles. Why not Ram?

NOTE: The preceding post was just humor. This is a stupid idea.

 

[Phoon]

The Pulsar claims it adds up to 30 hp. Dyno result I saw verifies this as well.

I will happily drop any hemi with a tune in my stock SO. Not even close.

 

[silver billet]

I will happily drop any hemi with a tune in my stock SO. Not even close.

You know how much 0 to 60 means to me? Zilch. I'd take more power during towing, but having a high strung whizzer is not my cup of tea.

Don't forget a lot of ram guys bought a hemi and not an ecoboom despite the strong performance from that 3.5, so for us it's not about the 0 to 60.

Amazing how many guys are coming out of the closet now though that Ram has a tiny whizzer too.

(I kid, enjoy your truck).

 

[Phoon]

You know how much 0 to 60 means to me? Zilch. I'd take more power during towing, but having a high strung whizzer is not my cup of tea.

Don't forget a lot of ram guys bought a hemi and not an ecoboom despite the strong performance from that 3.5, so for us it's not about the 0 to 60.

Amazing how many guys are coming out of the closet now though that Ram has a tiny whizzer too.

(I kid, enjoy your truck).

High strung motor that makes more torque at lower rpm...really struggling to make any sense eh!?

Hurricane is nothing like an ecoboost.

 

[silver billet]

High strung motor that makes more torque at lower rpm...really struggling to make any sense eh!?

Hurricane is nothing like an ecoboost.

Don't be thick, the stress on that engine is insane compared to a N/A 5.7.

 

[HSKR R/T]

You know how much 0 to 60 means to me? Zilch. I'd take more power during towing, but having a high strung whizzer is not my cup of tea.

Don't forget a lot of ram guys bought a hemi and not an ecoboom despite the strong performance from that 3.5, so for us it's not about the 0 to 60.

Amazing how many guys are coming out of the closet now though that Ram has a tiny whizzer too.

(I kid, enjoy your truck).

High strung whizzer? LMAO. Tell me you don't understand engines without saying you don't understand engines. You have to wind out the Hemi more to make the power. If anything, the Hemi has to work harder to do the same work.

 

[RebellionisDuty]

In this YouTube video at about 15:57 and 23:37, there's a Ram engineer discussing torque to speed. It's really beyond my engine comprehension, but the numbers he presents indicate the Hurricane will get to max torque at lower speeds. It's compared to the Hemi 5.7 and competitors at one point. It was tested and designed to outperform the Hemi v8. They knew this conversion wouldn't go over well. Durability is yet to be seen in real time, but the Hurricane has been on the road almost three years in the new Waggoneers and Cherokees.

I had a V8 in my last truck, and that rumble feels and sounds nice. I drove the '25 over to the brother-in-law's house. In his driveway sits a '21 Longhorn. We started to have a discussing similar to this one, and then he says, "how's it sound"? I did a remote start, and he remarked that's not too bad. He continued, and yes, I have the Hemi tick. The complaint I hear and read most is about the exhaust sound. If that is the only problem I encounter, I'll be a happy Hurricane i6 owner.

 

[LOWRMPG]

This has derailed in to a Mustang forum discussion when the Shelby owners realize a MachE smokes them.

It's OK, you can keep your V8.

 

[RebellionisDuty]

Every time I see that Mustang emblem on one of the EV SUV's, I want to rip it off and replace it with an Eveready sticker. It's a disgrace. The Maverick used to be a car, but now it's an EV truck. We had a Maverick, and that three on the tree was a fun drive.

Anyway, I digress. I just trying to make the point that other manufacturers pull similar things too.

 

[CalvinC]

I will happily drop any hemi with a tune in my stock SO. Not even close.

And I’d happily drop any SO with my ethanol’d and turbo-swapped ecoboost. Should just edge out an HO as well.

… And any Rivian truck will happily drop me.

As will most high performance German barges that turn 11.x & 12.low second quarters like nothing.

… Point is, there’s always a bigger (faster) fish (truck), and as someone who p!sped away money to make a truck go fast…. I’ve learned that’s the wrong priority for a truck. Just my own opinion.

…. That said I still can’t wait for the tuners to crack the Hurricane. Old habits die hard.