Spare tire WARNING

[CarRamRod]

I believe it’s a funnel for putting additives in your tank because of the capless syystem. Stab it in there keeps the little flap open while your adding whatever.

Yep it's for adding fuel or additives to the capless tank. There are actually two flapper doors inside the pipe that seal the system so most gas cans cannot open the second flap. Here's the refueling section from the owner's manual:

Emergency Gas Can Refueling
Most gas cans will not open the flapper doors.
A funnel is provided to open the flapper doors to allow
emergency refueling with a gas can.
1. Retrieve funnel from the jack and jack tool kit.
2. Insert funnel into same filler pipe opening as the fuel
nozzle.
3. Ensure funnel is inserted fully to hold flapper doors
open.
4. Pour fuel into funnel opening.
5. Remove funnel from filler pipe, clean off prior to putting
back in the jack and jack tool kit.

 

[CarRamRod]

Here is how it appears on my sticker. I have the factory 22" wheels as well.

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Interesting. I have factory 20" and my sticker doesn't list it so maybe it's a 22" wheel thing. Looks like there's a $650 upcharge for it as well. Here's mine.

 

[Brady_SS]

Interesting. I have factory 20" and my sticker doesn't list it so maybe it's a 22" wheel thing. Looks like there's a $650 upcharge for it as well. Here's mine.

I believe at some point the price increased on the eTorque option in general. My truck is a 7/23 build date. Maybe the pattern for Limited models anyway is eTorque and 22" wheels.

 

[CarRamRod]

My build date is 8/3, but I have a Laramie so maybe it's a difference in the Limited build out.

 

[duke2001]

The Big Question to this whole thread is, those with the Aluminum Wheels that have a Steel Spare, other then the OP, has anyone tried to fit up the Steel Wheel?

I have 22" factory supplied aluminum wheels on the ground on all four corners. Don't know if it is the same thickness aluminum wheels supplied by the factory on all other 2019 Ram trucks. My truck is a 2019 Ram Limited edition supplied with factory aluminum wheels, which sounded liked what the originator of this thread had. My spare is a steel rim, again sounded like what the originator had. So after waiting for someone else with the same parameters to check if their steel rim fit and had aluminum wheels on the ground, I tried it for myself. I provided the information to help others out there if they want it. To me, that answers the "Big Question".....just saying...

 

[riccnick]

I need to rotate my tires (7200 miles already!, I have a mid august build Laramie with the optional 20's), I'll try to check my spare situation tonight. No idea right now if its a steelie or an aluminum one.

 

[DeanKing]

After following this for four pages of posts I have come to realize that despite all the talk of steel v aluminum spares, open ended lugnuts, and funnels; only one person had this incredibly weird sounding problem. Have we all been asking the wrong question? Was there an installation snafu sitting on the side of the road on the way to the airport? I can’t imagine I would be in the best frame of mind in that situation. I noticed he hasn’t responded back on the outcome. Even if that wasn’t it perhaps he just got a weird spare due to an assembly line mixup. Or the theory about dealer switching something.

 

[duke2001]

After following this for four pages of posts I have come to realize that despite all the talk of steel v aluminum spares, open ended lugnuts, and funnels; only one person had this incredibly weird sounding problem. Have we all been asking the wrong question? Was there an installation snafu sitting on the side of the road on the way to the airport? I can’t imagine I would be in the best frame of mind in that situation. I noticed he hasn’t responded back on the outcome. Even if that wasn’t it perhaps he just got a weird spare due to an assembly line mixup. Or the theory about dealer switching something.

I agree that it would be great if the OP could provide some feedback. I stated such in an earlier post. I also think that if you have a steel spare, you don't have to run out and test it. One person testing it should suffice. And if someone has tested the aluminum spare, which had been done, then that ought to be good for all. If someone had tested the steel spare earlier, I would have not tested mine.

 

[19RebelZ]

Just did the tire rotation yesterday, I used the spare in the process. I thought to myself that’s a heck of spare, falken wildpeak a/t 275/55-18. I was wondering if everyone had different spares, now I see that’s the case. Was impressed with the pizza pan sized brake rotors!!

 

[19RebelZ]

After following this for four pages of posts I have come to realize that despite all the talk of steel v aluminum spares, open ended lugnuts, and funnels; only one person had this incredibly weird sounding problem. Have we all been asking the wrong question? Was there an installation snafu sitting on the side of the road on the way to the airport? I can’t imagine I would be in the best frame of mind in that situation. I noticed he hasn’t responded back on the outcome. Even if that wasn’t it perhaps he just got a weird spare due to an assembly line mixup. Or the theory about dealer switching something.

I did notice yesterday that when you put the wheel back on you’d still have to lift up ever so slightly to get final alignment squared up.

 

[Fantastipotamus]

Similar but different question for this thread.. I bought winter wheels and tires for my Ram, and as I’ve done with all my vehicles I used the spare tire jack to change them over.

Well, that is to say I *tried* to use it. It was several inches short. Nearly fully extended the tire was still fully on the ground, and with two pieces of 2x10 under the jack it was barely achievable. I’d estimate it probably needs a piece of 6x6 under it to effectively reach a workable height. Not sure what to do about this besides carry a 6x6 block forever, because I’d be in the same position as the OP but for a different reason entirely.

Truck is a Hemi eTorque, 4x4 (no off-road package), non-air suspension, and with the Black Appearance Package 20” wheels.

 

[Ramlax]

I just had the same thing happen(blow out) and my longhorn spare fit perfectly I drove onnit for three days. Hopefully this was a dealer mistake

 

[Maple]

Similar but different question for this thread.. I bought winter wheels and tires for my Ram, and as I’ve done with all my vehicles I used the spare tire jack to change them over.

Well, that is to say I *tried* to use it. It was several inches short. Nearly fully extended the tire was still fully on the ground, and with two pieces of 2x10 under the jack it was barely achievable. I’d estimate it probably needs a piece of 6x6 under it to effectively reach a workable height. Not sure what to do about this besides carry a 6x6 block forever, because I’d be in the same position as the OP but for a different reason entirely.

Truck is a Hemi eTorque, 4x4 (no off-road package), non-air suspension, and with the Black Appearance Package 20” wheels.

That's the wrong jack location - check pages 461/462 in the owner's manual.

 

[SuperShortMag]

Look at your owners manual. Jack goes under control arm not rocker panel

 

[blankenbuhler]

I believe the OP mounted his spare inside out. The lugnuts are designed so that they will not seat if you mount a steel spare wheel inside out.

 

[CarRamRod]

I believe the OP mounted his spare inside out. The lugnuts are designed so that they will not seat if you mount a steel spare wheel inside out.

It would be nice if OP would update us with what happened. Four pages of replies and I don't think he's said anything about it.

 

[Maple]

It would be nice if OP would update us with what happened. Four pages of replies and I don't think he's said anything about it.

He hasn't been back on the site since that post. Sure drummed up some activity, though.

 

[Fantastipotamus]

That's the wrong jack location - check pages 461/462 in the owner's manual. View attachment 11462 View attachment 11464

Look at your owners manual. Jack goes under control arm not rocker panel

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Sigh. Serves me right. Appreciate the insight and I’m glad I get to be an idiot for free.

 

[djwdjw]

Look at your owners manual. Jack goes under control arm not rocker panel

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I believe the OP mounted his spare inside out. The lugnuts are designed so that they will not seat if you mount a steel spare wheel inside out.

Thanks for the info on this site. Can't remember everything in the manual but I can remember this!

 

[riccnick]

I'd say even for someone inexperienced in changing a tire, it would be pretty difficult to mount the spare "inside out" on the hub. It would be glaringly obvious. I don't know the op, nor do I know his or her skill set, but I'd bet that the wheel being on backwards isn't the problem.

I took some time when rotating my tires to check the spare fitment. I have the upgraded aluminum silver and gray 20's on my Laramie, and an 18" aluminum spare wheel. (Not sure what my window sticker says, if anything)

The lugs that come with it, have a cone that is .540" deep, while the face of both aluminum wheels is about .75" (very tough to measure with just a dial caliper). I got measurements from about .720 -.788", so I'm not sure if there's just that much tolerance in the wheel faces (I doubt it), or its just the crappy method and tool I was using.

I threaded a lug on without the wheels on and they just about bottom out against the rotor, certainly nowhere near .75" of clearance between the rotor face and the top of the lug cone, so any wheel that fits, should snug down nicely with plenty of force.

My Harbor Freight aluminum jack did not go high enough on its own to lift the front of the truck up enough for the wheels to come off the ground, so I had to use a stair tread as a platform for the jack... But it worked.

Also, with the truck lifted in Off Road II mode, I still couldn't slide under it on a creeper, because of the air damn, which is not the movable one on air ride trucks...

The spare tire itself says its for temporary use only, and it's not full size (width wise, overall height is close enough to the same nominally). It's a 245/70R18 (Ø31.5") tire. My normal tires are 275/55R20 (Ø31.9"). It also didn't look like there's too much tread there to be used up...

Sorry for the fuzzy pics, it was cold and I was shaking like a mf just holding the camera.

Also, just fyi, the torque value for the lug nuts is 130 Lbs-Ft, per the owners manual. I'm very much used to vehicles with torque values at 100 Lbs-Ft or less. Even my Tundra was 97 Lbs-Ft for aluminum wheels... Doing six lugs per wheel at 130 was tiring towards the end. I have the old school needle / bar type torque wrench, and I needed a short extension on it to get past the offset of the wheels, so holding the extension straight and then using the torque wrench properly was a bit of a struggle. Towards the end of the 3rd and 4th wheels, I had a system going that mad it a bit easier though.