SOMETHING BIG IS COMING...

[HSKR R/T]

I would agree with that.
A naturally aspirated engine will always last longer then one with a turbo or supercharger.
The hurricane twin turbo is closer to the 6.2L and not counting sound should be a complete upgrade.

But comparing it to the 6.4.... The 6.4 should last a a much longer time without needing to be ripped apart and rebuilt.

I still don't see a reason why they are going to offer a straight 6, and not offer the SRT though. How is that any different then the Pentastar, hemi, and ecodiesel they offer now? 3 completely differnet engines on a 1500. I think they are getting rid of the ecodisel on the 1500s right? Are they going to offer a Pentastar and Hurricane only? My as well buy a Ford at that point they have more experience with v4-6 and turbos then Ram and will far likely outlive a g1 Hurricane.

Just make the Hemi standard, Hurricane an option, and an SRT as an option. It's not rocket science.

The Hemi will be around a little longer, but I think they are just going to have the Hurricane motor options. Not even the Pentastar. But we shall see. You want to talk about people buying a truck to not even use as a truck, a V6 option in a full size truck is pointless IMO.

 

[silver billet]

Because the twin turbo hurricane make more HP and torque than the 6.4l

An engine isn't just about HP and torque. Guaranteed it will tow more efficiently, last longer, and sound better while doing it. Also the HO requires 91 octane.

There is a reason the F150 still sells a ton of 5.0 engines even though the 3.5 makes more power.

 

[HSKR R/T]

An engine isn't just about HP and torque. Guaranteed it will tow more efficiently, last longer, and sound better while doing it. Also the HO requires 91 octane.

There is a reason the F150 still sells a ton of 5.0 engines even though the 3.5 makes more power.

The 6.4l requires 91 octane as well, and as so already mentioned, people don't buy SRT models for the engine life, or even towing for that matter.

 

[silver billet]

The 6.4l requires 91 octane as well, and as so already mentioned, people don't buy SRT models for the engine life, or even towing for that matter.

The 6.4 is just a bigger 5.7. Same reason you buy a 5.7 applies to the 6.4. Turbos have a place, but the SRT will definitely last longer and take more of a beating. And it will provide better fuel economy if you're working both engines beyond family duty (ie towing).

 

[Dewey]

Because the twin turbo hurricane make more HP and torque than the 6.4l

V8 sound makes up for at least 100 hp.

 

[WXman]

An engine isn't just about HP and torque. Guaranteed it will tow more efficiently, last longer, and sound better while doing it. Also the HO requires 91 octane.

There is a reason the F150 still sells a ton of 5.0 engines even though the 3.5 makes more power.

Yep, in fact the 5.0 V8 is the #1 selling engine in their truck. They always tout the fact that the EcoBoost outsells the V8, but that's deceptive. You see, they have three different EcoBoost engines in those trucks, so by combining their sales they can technically claim that EcoBoost wins. But truthfully, if we look at each engine on its own the V8 is clearly what more people want.

 

[GMetal]

I was hoping it was a merging of the rear window leak threads.

 

[HSKR R/T]

The 6.4 is just a bigger 5.7. Same reason you buy a 5.7 applies to the 6.4. Turbos have a place, but the SRT will definitely last longer and take more of a beating. And it will provide better fuel economy if you're working both engines beyond family duty (ie towing).

There a reason the Hellcat and TRX are supercharged and it's not for towing. If I'm buying a SRT Ram, well, I guess we already have that in the TRX. A 6.4L in a Ram would just be a R/T as long as it's not the same 6.4 as used in the HD trucks

 

[Darksteel165]

There a reason the Hellcat and TRX are supercharged and it's not for towing. If I'm buying a SRT Ram, well, I guess we already have that in the TRX. A 6.4L in a Ram would just be a R/T as long as it's not the same 6.4 as used in the HD trucks

The TRX has AT tires and shocks made for off-roading does it not?

I would of gladly shelled out extra for an SRT on my 1500 Limited, but I didn't want the stuff the TRX had, just the drivetrain possibly, and the engine.

I would of been changing tires on a brand new truck because they don't offer highway tires as an option on the TRX.
I also would prefer air suspension as it makes it way eaysier to work under the truck. Not an option on the TRX.
Ramboxes and the MFT are great on my Limited, I wanted Ramboxes but TRX wasn't able to have it.

On the regular 1500s you have some options for most parts but the TRX you essentially have 0 options, just upgrades. Can't even get power running boards on the TRX from the factory...

 

[HSKR R/T]

The TRX has AT tires and shocks made for off-roading does it not?

I would of gladly shelled out extra for an SRT on my 1500 Limited, but I didn't want the stuff the TRX had, just the drivetrain possibly, and the engine.

I would of been changing tires on a brand new truck because they don't offer highway tires as an option on the TRX.
I also would prefer air suspension as it makes it way eaysier to work under the truck. Not an option on the TRX.
Ramboxes and the MFT are great on my Limited, I wanted Ramboxes but TRX wasn't able to have it.

On the regular 1500s you have some options for most parts but the TRX you essentially have 0 options, just upgrades. Can't even get power running boards on the TRX from the factory...

You know how many guys change tires and wheels as a first mod in new trucks? Just read the forum. You're just making excuses now. The TRX is the SRT Ram. Don't like it, don't buy it. An N/A 6.4l 1500 built for performance wouldn't have a very good tow rating. It would probably be a factory lowered 2wd street truck. Much like the Dakota R/T from 98-2003 that had the same 5.9l and drivetrain as a full size Ram, but a lower tow rating than a V6 Dakota.

 

[Darksteel165]

You know how many guys change tires and wheels as a first mod in new trucks? Just read the forum. You're just making excuses now. The TRX is the SRT Ram. Don't like it, don't buy it. An N/A 6.4l 1500 built for performance wouldn't have a very good tow rating. It would probably be a factory lowered 2wd truck. Much like the Dakota R/T from 98-2003 that had the same drivetrain as a full size Ram, but a lower tow rating than a V6 Dakota.

I didn't buy it. I bought a Limited.

I didn't buy an expensive truck to just rip perfectly good parts off.
I didn't need to replace tires or wheels on my Limited. The only downside (or upside) is they are 22 inch wheels. The tires are great for all 4 seasons and a good brand.

The TRX is now made to be driven on pavement, it's an off-road vehicle. I mean their marketing materials show it driving in the desert...

 

[jimothy]

You know how many guys change tires and wheels as a first mod in new trucks? Just read the forum. You're just making excuses now. The TRX is the SRT Ram. Don't like it, don't buy it. An N/A 6.4l 1500 built for performance wouldn't have a very good tow rating. It would probably be a factory lowered 2wd truck. Much like the Dakota R/T from 98-2003 that had the same drivetrain as a full size Ram, but a lower tow rating than a V6 Dakota.

It’s kind of silly to claim the TRX is the SRT Ram, when there is no SRT Ram.

What people who wish there was an SRT Ram are looking for is a performance street truck. The TRX is obviously aimed at being a off-road performance truck. Which isn’t to say it can’t tear up some pavement, of course, but it’s not the truck SRT fans long for.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I didn't buy it. I bought a Limited.

I didn't buy an expensive truck to just rip perfectly good parts off.
I didn't need to replace tires or wheels on my Limited. The only downside (or upside) is they are 22 inch wheels. The tires are great for all 4 seasons and a good brand.

The TRX is now made to be driven on pavement, it's an off-road vehicle. I mean their marketing materials show it driving in the desert...

Doesn't mean it's not the "SRT" of Ram trucks. It's just not built as street truck.

 

[HSKR R/T]

It’s kind of silly to claim the TRX is the SRT Ram, when there is no SRT Ram.

What people who wish there was an SRT Ram are looking for is a performance street truck. The TRX is obviously aimed at being a off-road performance truck. Which isn’t to say it can’t tear up some pavement, of course, but it’s not the truck SRT fans long for.

You are right, but a street truck SRT would have a lower tow rating, which negates what is being mentioned above as a "truck" attribute that somehow the Hurricane won't be able to do despite having better performance than the current V8 offering

 

[silver billet]

There a reason the Hellcat and TRX are supercharged and it's not for towing. If I'm buying a SRT Ram, well, I guess we already have that in the TRX. A 6.4L in a Ram would just be a R/T as long as it's not the same 6.4 as used in the HD trucks

Nobody is talking about the Hellcat and TRX.

We're talking about the N/A 6.4, the 392, found in the Challenger, the GC, the Wrangler, and now the Grand Wagoneer.

You can't say "nobody is buying the 6.4 to tow" when there has been no option for the 6.4 in a towing vehicle before the Grand Wagoneer. Nobody buys the challenger/GC to tow, period.

But when you look at the grand wagoneer and compare the 5.7 to the srt/6.4, there is no comparison. It tows more, and gets better MPG.

Many of us hemi guys are dying for the 6.4 and would jump all over it if it was offered. Yes, to tow. And yes, just because it's an awesome engine that sounds amazing and has tons of power.

I suggest you watch this comparison between the 5.7 hemi in a ram vs the 6.4 srt in the grand wagoneer (a massive and heavy suv)

Mpg towing:
9.7 (5.7) vs 9.8 (6.4)
Mpg unloaded:
20.4 (5.7) vs 24.9 (6.4)
0 to 60:
7.63 (5.7) vs 6.46 (6.4)

The 6.4 literally crushes the 5.7 everywhere.

 

[Pale Al]

 

[Pale Al]

Sniff sniff , I traded the TRX in for a new Big Horn E/Hemi. Hope it tows these two trailers....

 

[Eighty]

Can't nobody say that a TRX won't do Truck Stuff!!

 

[silver billet]

I love the TRX, don't get me wrong. The problem is that there is a massive hole in the ram lineup between the 5.7 at 395 hp and the trx at 707.

And I'd prefer something in between, that is not turbo/supercharged. Something to compete with the chevy 6.2.

 

[Eighty]

I love the TRX, don't get me wrong. The problem is that there is a massive hole in the ram lineup between 5.7 at 350 hp vs the trx at 707.

And I'd prefer something in between, that is not turbo/supercharged. Something to compete with the chevy 6.2.

Not that it matters, but the TRX only gets 702 hp. And the 5.7L Hemi gets 395 hp.

What I don't get about the 6.4L is this: You only get 410 hp. That's less than a 4% increase over the 5.7L. There's just not enough of a difference to even talk about. You can probably get that much gain by adding a cold air intake and an exhaust to your 5.7L.