Ramcares repair scam\fraud

[GMetal]

It interesting to me how the body and bumpers are painted seperately. Id like to see more detail how everything is prepped and painted.

 

[MannyN]

What did you do with that truck?

Just normal CA driving. Bought the bumper online painted. Was a ****ty paint job anyways.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Just normal CA driving. Bought the bumper online painted. Was a ****ty paint job anyways.

I've been told that isn't a ****ty paint job by a "professional".

 

[moosem]

What losses? It was repainted

The $1400 that you spent to have it repainted.

 

[MannyN]

I've been told that isn't a ****ty paint job by a "professional".

ya, when you want it to be done right, you have to do it yourself.

 

[irishwake63]

my 22 looks like crap too not that bad but I checked on the ppf and 2800? wow cheaper to put after market bumper

 

[MannyN]

my 22 looks like crap too not that bad but I checked on the ppf and 2800? wow cheaper to put after market bumper

I spent $150 on paint and sandpaper, $200 for the PPF. Bumper, headlights and panels. $45 on beer.

 

[theblet]

I spent $150 on paint and sandpaper, $200 for the PPF. Bumper, headlights and panels. $45 on beer.

Damn inflation. Beer used to be $20!

 

[GMetal]

A half pint of DCX 61 hardener for PPG DCU2021 clear coat is $100. Thats mixed at a 4:1:1 ratio. The clear coat is $120 for a quart. The reducer is about $55. Paint isnt cheap.

 

[moosem]

my 22 looks like crap too not that bad but I checked on the ppf and 2800? wow cheaper to put after market bumper

For just the bumper, or the whole truck? I paid $400 for the bumper and the side view mirrors.

Honestly, if it’s already full of paint chips, it’s too late. Of course, it will prevent a lot of new chips, but it will not hide the ones that are already there.

 

[Darksteel165]

For just the bumper, or the whole truck? I paid $400 for the bumper and the side view mirrors.

Honestly, if it’s already full of paint chips, it’s too late. Of course, it will prevent a lot of new chips, but it will not hide the ones that are already there.

I had a quote for $600 for just the bumper, but nothing else on the front, like below the headlights.
Sounded like a hackjob as I found out the guy that does it doesn't even have his own shop and works out of his house without a garrage. Not saying everyone that works out if their house is bad, but if it's your main gig, should get a place to do it.

 

[moosem]

I had a quote for $600 for just the bumper, but nothing else on the front, like below the headlights.
Sounded like a hackjob as I found out the guy that does it doesn't even have his own shop and works out of his house without a garrage. Not saying everyone that works out if their house is bad, but if it's your main gig, should get a place to do it.

Yeah, that’s a little bit high. The guy I went to is legit. One man show, so very little overhead, but he does have a shop! He uses 3M film too. I just had the bumper and mirrors done because my experience with my previous RAM was that they took the biggest beating. I also had him tint the front windows to match the rest.

 

[BowDown]

I've been told that isn't a ****ty paint job by a "professional".

You should probably read what he wrote a little slower and closer

 

[BowDown]

my 22 looks like crap too not that bad but I checked on the ppf and 2800? wow cheaper to put after market bumper

I paid $1600 for the entire front included the hood, front fenders and above the windshield. $2800 is high

 

[HSKR R/T]

my 22 looks like crap too not that bad but I checked on the ppf and 2800? wow cheaper to put after market bumper

That $2800 should have covered more than just the bumper with PPF. That should have been entire front end, hood, fenders, bumper for that price

 

[Cbty2050]

3m on the front bumper only. Paid $400. I proceeded to hit a branch on the family cabin driveway, tore the PPF. Slightly mad about it.

 

[GMetal]

Theres also different grades of PPF. Not all has the same life span. Yes it needs replacing after 5 or more years depending on the quality. Ive seen cheap PPF fail after a few summers here in Texas. Turns yellow and cracks.
Just for price difference Avery Dennison Supreme Defense gloss clear is $81.15/yd for 60" width it has up 10 years outdoor lifespan and its 8mil thick
Then there is Orafol Oraguard 270G gloss clear $17.59/yd for 50" width it has a 5 year outdoor lifespan and its 6 mil thick.
The labor can be the most expensive part. Anyone that has applied vinyl could do it themselves with an insect sprayer, baby shampoo, Isopropyl alcohol, distilled water and a few spray bottles and heat gun or torch. Plenty of videos on you tube. Having two people makes it way easier since stretching it a bit over the panel is key.

 

[BowDown]

3m on the front bumper only. Paid $400. I proceeded to hit a branch on the family cabin driveway, tore the PPF. Slightly mad about it.

Thats why you bought it though.
I had a car in front of me run over a piece of card board and fling it into the air. It must have grown wings because it stayed airborne till I got there then came down and hit the panel under the headlights on passenger side. Tore the ppf but that's it. I was "slightly mad" too but S happens

 

[BowDown]

Theres also different grades of PPF. Not all has the same life span. Yes it needs replacing after 5 or more years depending on the quality. Ive seen cheap PPF fail after a few summers here in Texas. Turns yellow and cracks.
Just for price difference Avery Dennison Supreme Defense gloss clear is $81.15/yd for 60" width it has up 10 years outdoor lifespan and its 8mil thick
Then there is Orafol Oraguard 270G gloss clear $17.59/yd for 50" width it has a 5 year outdoor lifespan and its 6 mil thick.
The labor can be the most expensive part. Anyone that has applied vinyl could do it themselves with an insect sprayer, baby shampoo, Isopropyl alcohol, distilled water and a few spray bottles and heat gun or torch. Plenty of videos on you tube. Having two people makes it way easier since stretching it a bit over the panel is key.

I know that's what Lexus uses because it all turns yellow and cracks within a few years. I've been curious if that's what Ram is using, I guess well know in about 3 more years.
NTX clear bra did my truck, he used Llumar Platinum Gloss which has a 10 year warranty. We'll see
At this point, I wish I had done the entire truck in PPF, the front never scratches and beads water no matter what. I've had to do paint correction and re-ceramic coat from the drivers doors back 3 times because of the worthlessness of consumer grade ceramic coating. Picking some professional grade Maxx and some Diamond SS from a friend, hopefully this lasts a few years

 

[wegasque]

I know that's what Lexus uses because it all turns yellow and cracks within a few years. I've been curious if that's what Ram is using, I guess well know in about 3 more years.
NTX clear bra did my truck, he used Llumar Platinum Gloss which has a 10 year warranty. We'll see
At this point, I wish I had done the entire truck in PPF, the front never scratches and beads water no matter what. I've had to do paint correction and re-ceramic coat from the drivers doors back 3 times because of the worthlessness of consumer grade ceramic coating. Picking some professional grade Maxx and some Diamond SS from a friend, hopefully this lasts a few years

I just got a quote from Ceramic Pro for their ultimate armor package, which includes full frontal PPF and full ceramic coating with lifetime warranty, for $3600. Was going to take my truck ot get it done when we get my wife's vehicle back from the shop.