Hurricane ESS

[Nascar Tommy]

Looking around on the 2025 build site I noticed the 3.6 V6 engine option still lists as an etorque whereas the hurricane engine is listed as an ESS.
Does this mean they are using the traditional starter motor for the ESS system?
That was the whole bragging point of etorque, not using the starter motor.

 

[Rick3478]

Does this mean they are using the traditional starter motor for the ESS system?
That was the whole bragging point of etorque, not using the starter motor.

Don't know the answer to your question, but that wasn't the "whole" bragging point. There are other facets to etorque, adding to engine power and regenerative braking to name a couple. I thought the way they implemented it, with a belt drive, was kinda wimpy. So maybe they've given up on the band-aid "mild hybrid", or maybe it's just too much to engineer all at once and they'll bring it on mid-year.

 

[Darksteel165]

Looking around on the 2025 build site I noticed the 3.6 V6 engine option still lists as an etorque whereas the hurricane engine is listed as an ESS.
Does this mean they are using the traditional starter motor for the ESS system?
That was the whole bragging point of etorque, not using the starter motor.

It sounded like they dumped etorque. They should of removed start/start while they were at it.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

Looking around on the 2025 build site I noticed the 3.6 V6 engine option still lists as an etorque whereas the hurricane engine is listed as an ESS.
Does this mean they are using the traditional starter motor for the ESS system?
That was the whole bragging point of etorque, not using the starter motor.

For sure they are not using the traditional starter motor for this. It wouldn't last long.

Perhaps they realized that it was a bunch of electric hassle for nothing. Perhaps they realized the environmental impact mining lithium with child labor was having. Perhaps they met the green limits with a more efficient motor and just don't need it.

 

[Darksteel165]

For sure they are not using the traditional starter motor for this. It wouldn't last long.

Perhaps they realized that it was a bunch of electric hassle for nothing. Perhaps they realized the environmental impact mining lithium with child labor was having. Perhaps they met the green limits with a more efficient motor and just don't need it.

Whats the more efficient motor?

 

[Jimmy07]

Does this mean they are using the traditional starter motor for the ESS system?

 

[Darksteel165]

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I wonder if this means it will be coming to the 2500s too? Not etorque but A/SS

 

[Rick3478]

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So, sounds like beefier starter. Will the heavy duty starter fit my Hemi?

 

[Jimmy07]

So, sounds like beefier starter. Will the heavy duty starter fit my Hemi?

No

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

Whats the more efficient motor?

Turbo 6 to NA V8

 

[Darksteel165]

Turbo 6 to NA V8

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So which one is more efficient?
The one doing normal work or the other one with 20+ psi of boost getting shoved into it to do the same amount of work?

 

[HSKR R/T]

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So which one is more efficient?
The one doing normal work or the other one with 20+ psi of boost getting shoved into it to do the same amount of work?

You make it sound like it's constantly going to be at max boost levels. Turbo motors don't spend a whole lot of time at max boost. And not sure I'd consider WOT in either engine "normal work".

 

[Rick3478]

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So which one is more efficient?
The one doing normal work or the other one with 20+ psi of boost getting shoved into it to do the same amount of work?

All else being equal, the boosted one with less displacement will have less internal friction. Alternately, a boosted engine of the same size producing the same power at lower RPM, but same ground speed with different gear ratios would also lose less to internal friction.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

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So which one is more efficient?
The one doing normal work or the other one with 20+ psi of boost getting shoved into it to do the same amount of work?

Enlighten us, please....

 

[Nascar Tommy]

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Thank You! That answers my question.

 

[Nascar Tommy]

For sure they are not using the traditional starter motor for this. It wouldn't last long.

Perhaps they realized that it was a bunch of electric hassle for nothing. Perhaps they realized the environmental impact mining lithium with child labor was having. Perhaps they met the green limits with a more efficient motor and just don't need it.

There is still stop start on the hurricanes. Jimm07 answered. It yes it is the traditional starter motor they use but it is a heavy duty version.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

There is still stop start on the hurricanes. Jimm07 answered. It yes it is the traditional starter motor they use but it is a heavy duty version.

Yes, I mistakenly thought it was in reference to the e-tourque motor that was eliminated.