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I like the 5foot bed for all the reasons listed above, but you can always add a bed extender to the hitch if needed for lumber.
Funny you say that. I'm 5'7". I guess I could sleep diagonally in the shorter bed. Regarding the garage, we may be building an external one for the camper, so we'd make it wide enough to also include the truck. Either bed length would be tight in our current garages.My argument for 6'4" - which is why I have the longer bed -- is that at some point I may need to sleep in it and I'm not quite short enough for the 5'7" bed. As long as you have a trailer, that's not likely to be an issue.
My argument for the 5'7" bed is where you'll be parking. Break out a tape measure and see just exactly how deep your garage is. I'd be kicking myself forever if I bought the long bed and discovered it's 3" too long to garage it. If neither will fit or the garage is full of other stuff, disregard.
Thanks for the input. I found a 2019 version of the option weights and assume it's similar. I've yet to find a Laramie with the diesel that has a payload over the low to mid 1400#s. I really don't see us getting a larger trailer. We are unlikely to ever be full-timers, though I guess you never say never...If you plan on getting a bigger trailer at some point, then a 2500 might be a good choice. It will also allow you to take more extra stuff with you. But anyways...
I had the 6'4" bed on my 1500(was a need for me) and liked it because I could lay our bikes in there and still close the tonneau cover.
Like you said, 8' lumber will fit better.
Depending on layout of your TT the hitch weight could be higher than that, I'd suggest scaling it.
I don't think 9" is going to make much of a difference in length, either way it's hard to pull into spaces in a tighter parking lot with a truck. I always just parked farther away, backed in or pulled through when I parked.
I think your payload estimate is reasonable on a Laramie, mine was 1650ish. There is a thread around here somewhere that has weights of some of the options but not sure where it is exactly.
For sure some heavy options to avoid: multi-function tailgate, rambox, off road group, sunroof.
Remember adding running boards, tonneau cover/cap etc. will decrease your available payload.
The thinking here was that we wanted as much interior storage as possible and probably won't go with a bed cover (to save some weight.) Obviously our dogs don't need a huge back seat, but this would allow us to carry more items in the cab.How often will you use the back seats? If you don't need the rear legroom, Quad Cabs all have the 6' 4" bed and are 4" shorter in overall length than a Crew Cab 5' 7" bed (Quad fits in my garage, Crew barely did not). My payload sticker is a little over 1700# (see signature below for truck details).
Thanks for the input and new points. I'd forgotten about those hitch-mounted bed extenders.I'm going to be the odd man out here that votes for the 5'7" bed:
1. If you ever want a truck cap it's more available and less money.
2. Since you're not getting the Ram boxes you already have a boatload of storage that 9 extra inches isn't going to make a difference.
3. If you want to park in a garage it will be easier. My truck wouldn't fit in my garage if I had the longer bed.
4. You can carry anything up to 16 feet long in a 5'7" bed with a hitch-mounted extender. I carry 16' deck boards and pressure treated lumber all the time in my "short" bed. I don't break out the extender for anything shorter than 12 feet.
5. It will be a little easier to park and maneuver.
6. Better resale; long-bed trucks are harder to sell and trade in. As handy as they are most people use their trucks for nothing but commuting or the odd Home Depot run and don't want all that extra length (because of garage, parking, etc).
I posted in another reply that we'd probably be building a garage for the camper and the truck. I think the longer bed would fit in our lower garage (under the house) but there is a brick wall along the carport on one side that might make getting it out a little more of a process. It already requires precision turning when backing out our Grand Cherokee.If your garage will allow it 6'4" all the way. My garage was too short. I think the 6'4" bed looks more balanced. Mine looks a little stubby, (like other things I have). Plus you have more cargo room.
I've thought about just putting the Ford into our company so I'd still have access. Before I really understood payload, a friend and I picked up a one ton pallet of stone. Add 300 pounds of us to the cab and we were well over the payload capacity. It rode low, but we took it slowly on backroads for the thirty minute drive to his house.Glad to here you are keeping the 8 foot bed.
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I vote 6'4.
Get the VIN, then head HERE. Click "Lookup my vehicle" and paste the VIN and hit "Find." It will give you the max towing and actual payload for the truck you're looking at.Thanks for the input. I found a 2019 version of the option weights and assume it's similar. I've yet to find a Laramie with the diesel that has a payload over the low to mid 1400#s. I really don't see us getting a larger trailer. We are unlikely to ever be full-timers, though I guess you never say never...
We do plan to get it to a scale. A friend had one of those tongue scales and we were at about 500#, without the WDH attached and it weighs maybe 60-80#? Feels like it, anyway. I'd spread the payload in the trailer to aim for 12% at the hitch, unless I find it needs to be more or less to handle better.
That site has never worked for my truck..Get the VIN, then head HERE. Click "Lookup my vehicle" and paste the VIN and hit "Find." It will give you the max towing and actual payload for the truck you're looking at.
Interesting. It works clean back to 2009. It is spot on for payload. You just have to understand the towing number is not max trailer weight. It is just GCWR minus base weight. You still have to make adjustments for passengers, cargo, and your hitch. Then you also must make sure you have the available payload for tongue weightThat site has never worked for my truck..
It doesn't work for my 2500 either, but it was lease/fleet purpose built. Usually it works though.That site has never worked for my truck..
Totally understand the process, thanks. Just pointing out the site does not work.. bough the truck brand new in Dec 2019.Interesting. It works clean back to 2009. It is spot on for payload. You just have to understand the towing number is not max trailer weight. It is just GCWR minus base weight. You still have to make adjustments for passengers, cargo, and your hitch. Then you also must make sure you have the available payload for tongue weight
Atleast I'm not the only one!It doesn't work for my 2500 either, but it was lease/fleet purpose built. Usually it works though.
That wasnt directed at you. It is just every day 7 or 8 times we have someone not understanding this.Totally understand the process, thanks. Just pointing out the site does not work.. bough the truck brand new in Dec 2019.
I was set on a 6 4 bed until I drove a crew cab with the 5 7. Parking the truck takes up more space than what is available length wise in a regular parking spot and your nose will be sticking out into the lane about a foot with your back bumper on the line. With the 6 4 it will be out further. Unless you have a need to regularly use those extra 9 inches, you won't notice it. You can also purchase the bed extender for about 350 that adds 15 inches of space to the bed if that problem ever presents itself.With the chip shortage, it will likely be a 2022 model, but I'll assume the bed choices are the same. Here are the details, if they help.
- We're getting a truck to pull a 24'9", 6200# max weight, travel trailer--a Lance 2075. Hope to be taking some long trips around the country.
- I'm going with a Ram 1500 because I like the truck and will use it for other duties, but nothing that would require a 2500.
- We currently have a 1996 F150 regular cab with an 8' bed and I love being able to carry a lot of stuff. But, I don't know about keeping the Ford just to have for the times I need an 8' bed--I have a 4' x 8' trailer I could use.
- Don't want the RamBox, which I believe is only available on the 5'7" bed.
- Will be getting a crew cab (Laramie) EcoDiesel
- Will get the air suspension
Below is a start on arguments in favor of each length. Please help me think of other things to consider. Note, the question marks indicate I'm not sure its correct.
5'7" Bed
- More maneuverable/easier to park
- More payload due to slightly less weight?
- Shorter wheelbase for better breakover angle, in the rare case I get into an offroad situation where it's an issue?
- Shorter total length for RV campgrounds--though probably wouldn't come into play that often.
- I read elsewhere that the driveshaft is two-piece on the longer bed? (This was on the previous generation.) So, possibly fewer moving parts to break?
6'4" Bed
- More cargo room
- Longer wheelbase for better stability when towing?
- Bed extender would allow for items 8' long?
Does anyone know how much payload you lose with the longer bed? That's pretty important to me. If we put our tongue weight at 12% and have the trailer at max weight, that's about 750# of payload consumed. We're not big people and our two traveling companions are beagles, but I'd like to have as much payload as possible--ideally 1350-1400#.