ESC nearly killed me !

[TKC432]

Had tires rotated yesterday. 35" tires and a 3.5" lift on the truck. Anyway while on the freeway going into a banked turn at high speed as usual the ESC activated and applied brake to the right wheel which jerked the truck hard right into the other lane. Nobody was in the lane and I was able to regain control of the truck quick enough to avoid hitting the guard rail. Needless to say this 'safety feature '. Is far from safe ! Reading through the forums I see there is a lot of similar issues with these trucks and the ESC nanny crap. I can't afford to have a mechanic chase this wild goose and the warranty is up. Hit 60k miles last week. Naturally I see some people opt to pop the ABS fuse and eliminate all the nanny stuff. Is there any other option ? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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[Rebelguy2020]

Must have something to do with your 3.5” lift and the extra 2” tire size. The extra height of your truck will create more sway, and the ESC is not calibrated for it.

 

[User_3336]

Yet, you modified the truck with a lift and bigger tires, don't guess the "nanny ESC" can handle that.

 

[Cbty2050]

Almost got killed by a lift and oversized tires.

I fixed the thread title for you.

 

[Scram1500]

Get a Hellwig sway bar to control the body roll, until then slow down maybe?

 

[VectorZ]

Breaking news, area man greatly alters his vehicle, doesn't reprogram anything and then suffers the consequences of his actions.

 

[User_3336]

Call "ESC Nanny 911".

 

[Darksteel165]

Just turn it off. It's right in your radio.

But yes it's extremely dangerous I almost got into 2 different accidents because of it, one was on the highway in the passing lane going dead straight and it locked up and I had to slam on the gas and almost got rear ended.

Also activates in the city of someone in front of you is turning and it thinks you are going to hit a car that is no longer there.

As far as I know it causes all wheels to brake, so if you lost control that's because you were not expecting it or are poor driver it doesn't just trigger random brakes on 1 wheel.

Also having a mechanic properly calibrate your truck is not "chasing" am issue. You got a lift and larger tires. You need to get your safety systems recalibrated. How do you think any of the cameras and sensors work? Even when you get a windshield replaced they are suppose to be recalibrated.

Hate the truck for problems it has, not problems you created yourself by not knowing what you are doing with it.

 

[Idahoktm]

Just turn it off. It's right in your radio.

But yes it's extremely dangerous I almost got into 2 different accidents because of it, one was on the highway in the passing lane going dead straight and it locked up and I had to slam on the gas and almost got rear ended.

Also activates in the city of someone in front of you is turning and it thinks you are going to hit a car that is no longer there.

As far as I know it causes all wheels to brake, so if you lost control that's because you were not expecting it or are poor driver it doesn't just trigger random brakes on 1 wheel.

Also having a mechanic properly calibrate your truck is not "chasing" am issue. You got a lift and larger tires. You need to get your safety systems recalibrated. How do you think any of the cameras and sensors work? Even when you get a windshield replaced they are suppose to be recalibrated.

Hate the truck for problems it has, not problems you created yourself by not knowing what you are doing with it.

The OP is talking about ESC, not FCW.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Just turn it off. It's right in your radio.

But yes it's extremely dangerous I almost got into 2 different accidents because of it, one was on the highway in the passing lane going dead straight and it locked up and I had to slam on the gas and almost got rear ended.

Also activates in the city of someone in front of you is turning and it thinks you are going to hit a car that is no longer there.

As far as I know it causes all wheels to brake, so if you lost control that's because you were not expecting it or are poor driver it doesn't just trigger random brakes on 1 wheel.

Also having a mechanic properly calibrate your truck is not "chasing" am issue. You got a lift and larger tires. You need to get your safety systems recalibrated. How do you think any of the cameras and sensors work? Even when you get a windshield replaced they are suppose to be recalibrated.

Hate the truck for problems it has, not problems you created yourself by not knowing what you are doing with it.

You are talking brake assist, not ESP

 

[HSKR R/T]

Had tires rotated yesterday. 35" tires and a 3.5" lift on the truck. Anyway while on the freeway going into a banked turn at high speed as usual the ESC activated and applied brake to the right wheel which jerked the truck hard right into the other lane. Nobody was in the lane and I was able to regain control of the truck quick enough to avoid hitting the guard rail. Needless to say this 'safety feature '. Is far from safe ! Reading through the forums I see there is a lot of similar issues with these trucks and the ESC nanny crap. I can't afford to have a mechanic chase this wild goose and the warranty is up. Hit 60k miles last week. Naturally I see some people opt to pop the ABS fuse and eliminate all the nanny stuff. Is there any other option ? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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Did you have the computer adjusted for the larger tires? How much body roll does the truck have?

 

[Cbty2050]

The OP is talking about ESC, not FCW.

This right here. I am glad I don't believe everything I see on the internet.

 

[Darksteel165]

You are talking brake assist, not ESP

Is not ESP a form of brake assist?
I fail to see how that could make OP almost "hit a guard rail" on the highway unless he was going to smash into it anyways.

 

[Jimmy07]

Is not ESP a form of brake assist?
I fail to see how that could make OP almost "hit a guard rail" on the highway unless he was going to smash into it anyways.

ESC- electronic stability control. It automatically applies braking to individual wheels when it feels the vehicle is swaying too much, in a skid, etc.
FCW is what you described happening to you. I have mine set to warning only for reasons similar to yours with my aggressive driving habits- following a car that is turning right into a shopping plaza, I know that his *** end will be clear so I don’t have to slow down much (and can speed up sooner than most conservative drivers would), but FCW waits until the entire profile of the vehicle is clear from its path otherwise it doesn’t think you are going to react to the vehicle slowing down.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Is not ESP a form of brake assist?
I fail to see how that could make OP almost "hit a guard rail" on the highway unless he was going to smash into it anyways.

If it senses too much body roll, or too much differential in wheel speeds side to side, it will apply the brake to appropriate wheel to try and counter a skid. If he did.not reprogram for different tire diameter, and was taking the ramp aggressively, the computer could interpret the signals incorrectly and apply the brake to one wheel. Which if you are in control of the vehicle, and not ready for it, and throw you one way or another depending on which brake was applied.

 

[MannyN]

The differential in wheel speeds side to side would be the same for 31" tires and 35" tires. 35" tires would just have less impulses per revolution.

 

[User_3336]

When I turn off traction control, it seems to disable ESC and FCW. 2 icons come on. One is the truck and a little curvy road icom (traction control), and another shows the two wheels, a line on top, and a collision icon.

 

[HSKR R/T]

When I turn off traction control, it seems to disable ESC and FCW. 2 icons come on. One is the truck and a little curvy road icom (traction control), and another shows the two wheels, a line on top, and a collision icon.

Traction control, TCS and Stability control, ESC, are two different systems. When you hit the traction control button, it reduces traction control, but ESP is still active.

 

[Jeffrey_Sasquatch]

Had tires rotated yesterday. 35" tires and a 3.5" lift on the truck. Anyway while on the freeway going into a banked turn at high speed as usual the ESC activated and applied brake to the right wheel which jerked the truck hard right into the other lane. Nobody was in the lane and I was able to regain control of the truck quick enough to avoid hitting the guard rail. Needless to say this 'safety feature '. Is far from safe ! Reading through the forums I see there is a lot of similar issues with these trucks and the ESC nanny crap. I can't afford to have a mechanic chase this wild goose and the warranty is up. Hit 60k miles last week. Naturally I see some people opt to pop the ABS fuse and eliminate all the nanny stuff. Is there any other option ? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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Purchase the MOPAR EXTENDED WARRANTY. Ours has paid for itself 4 times over already.

 

[VectorZ]

Purchase the MOPAR EXTENDED WARRANTY. Ours has paid for itself 4 times over already.

Not sure what a warranty has to do with this predicament. OP lifted his truck and put on much bigger tires without configuring the truck for those changes. This is not a 1990 truck with no computers, stability control etc.