E TORQUE was a big mistake.

[1923bob]

I had read on forums that the start stop feature was hell on the eTorque motor. Although you can turn that feature off, you have to do it with every start , which most people forget to do. I purchased a module for $100.00 that permanently disables the start stop. I hope this will help avoid eTorque issues.

Yep have my start stop off 99% of the time with the Tazer hope it helps also.

 

[Trooper4]

There is a thread here that is all about doing the bearings yourself if that is what the problem is. If the unit puked, it's a new one.

 

[Ramgoose]

It’s not really a big deal. I bought a 2019 first year 5th gen Rebel in Oct 2018. It was one of the first Rebels available in town at the time. No issues with ET at all after seven years. I probably won’t would have taken a non ET if available but not tripping about what may go wrong. Still Love this truck.

 

[1923bob]

It’s not really a big deal. I bought a 2019 first year 5th gen Rebel in Oct 2018. It was one of the first Rebels available in town at the time. No issues with ET at all after seven years. I probably won’t would have taken a non ET if available but not tripping about what may go wrong. Still Love this truck.

Good looking truck !!! Dog's look cute also.

 

[dajogejr]

without stop start you basically totally disable the e-t system and it provides no benefit, not that it had much in the first place.

That’s actually not accurate. S/S is only one feature. Other benefits…we can debate if they are useful or not, sure. But S/S is only one feature of e-t.
Plenty of videos and documentation about its other features. Again, not arguing if they’re useful/beneficial, that’s personal opinion.
Just to name a few.
Extra 100 plus lb ft of torque for the first half rotation of the tires.
Smoother shifts between gears.
Regenerative braking does increase pad/rotor/overall brake life.

If you want to debate if that’s 1% or 50%…I’m with you…but to say disabling S/S is basically disabling the E-T system is not accurate.

 

[1791]

That’s actually not accurate. S/S is only one feature. Other benefits…we can debate if they are useful or not, sure. But S/S is only one feature of e-t.
Plenty of videos and documentation about its other features. Again, not arguing if they’re useful/beneficial, that’s personal opinion.
Just to name a few.
Extra 100 plus lb ft of torque for the first half rotation of the tires.
Smoother shifts between gears.
Regenerative braking does increase pad/rotor/overall brake life.

If you want to debate if that’s 1% or 50%…I’m with you…but to say disabling S/S is basically disabling the E-T system is not accurate.

point taken, smoother shifts is interesting because i think it's already to smooth lol. i loved barking gears on demand but that don't happen anymore.

 

[Gren71]

That’s actually not accurate. S/S is only one feature. Other benefits…we can debate if they are useful or not, sure. But S/S is only one feature of e-t.
Plenty of videos and documentation about its other features. Again, not arguing if they’re useful/beneficial, that’s personal opinion.
Just to name a few.
Extra 100 plus lb ft of torque for the first half rotation of the tires.
Smoother shifts between gears.
Regenerative braking does increase pad/rotor/overall brake life.

If you want to debate if that’s 1% or 50%…I’m with you…but to say disabling S/S is basically disabling the E-T system is not accurate.

I actually thought the same thing..disabling the s/s basically took the whole etorque system out of play. Is that not the case?

 

[CHeYeNNe71]

Glad i passed and it's a gimmick.

 

[Gren71]

I actually thought the same thing..disabling the s/s basically took the whole etorque system out of play. Is that not the case?

Welp, i learned something today

 

[dajogejr]

point taken, smoother shifts is interesting because i think it's already to smooth lol. i loved barking gears on demand but that don't happen anymore.

More than fair. My comparison is three prior rams, all Hemi, 06, 08, and a 15.
I went 3:21 in my 2023 cause I really don’t tow too much anymore.. if anything, I don’t feel a slight dip going from gear to gear.
I 100% can tell… regenerative braking. Going from car to car… big difference slowing down.

I do notice much better gas mileage overall, tank per tank, between my 15 Limited with 3:92 and my current 23 Limited with e-t and 3:21. Do I save a few RPMs when cruising? Of course. Does it save a little stop/start, yes.
I haven’t had an etorque issue to date, so of course I’m good with it.

Could my tune change should I have an issue. Like anything else, very possible… and yes, I’m knocking on wood

 

[dajogejr]

Welp, i learned something today

There’s a pretty good video of a lead engineer that worked on the e-torque and he goes over each “feature” of it while someone else is driving.
Here you go…not an overly long video…but it does a good job explaining.

 

[Scram1500]

Welp, i learned something today

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The AI can be wrong sometimes

 

[WXman]

MGUs aren't $2400. I just bought one, $1000 out the door. It did take two months.

That's good to hear. Still sucks that it's 5X more expensive than an alternator, and that you can't just walk into a store and get one like an alternator....

 

[392DCGC]

MGUs aren't $2400. I just bought one, $1000 out the door. It did take two months.

That's good to hear. Still sucks that it's 5X more expensive than an alternator, and that you can't just walk into a store and get one like an alternator....

And just like that, the promised fuel savings are completely wiped out.

 

[Gren71]

And just like that, the promised fuel savings are completely wiped out.

I honestly think that most things labeled as “fuel saving” I really just gimmick that give the placebo effect. And if any of them provide any real legitimate fuel savings, it’s a negligible or only really even measurable over a very long distance. The ET system was definitely just an EPA block checked by FCA in my opinion.

 

[John Kloehr]

I honestly think that most things labeled as “fuel saving” I really just gimmick that give the placebo effect. And if any of them provide any real legitimate fuel savings, it’s a negligible or only really even measurable over a very long distance. The ET system was definitely just an EPA block checked by FCA in my opinion.

The entire package still beats the 10mpg I got from '70s vehicles. The only thing which made those affordable in the '90s was I could buy one and recondition it for another 100,000 miles of use for a few thousand dollars. The savings over a modern car (of the time) bought a lot of gas.

Over the course of 100,000 miles, there was an additional $15,000 in fuel cost compared to a vehicle which got double the mileage. This was still cheaper than buying a late 90s vehicle before even filling it for the first time.

I'll agree eTorque by itself probably does not save a lot of fuel, still a nice truck.

 

[1791]

i saw

There’s a pretty good video of a lead engineer that worked on the e-torque and he goes over each “feature” of it while someone else is driving.
Here you go…not an overly long video…but it does a good job explaining.

i saw this when i was truck shopping and it helped me decide that i did not want it.....the truck already thinks enough i didn't want to blow it's mind.
people complain about replacing the mgu. well that 48v battery is not cheap and it fail's also. as a whole the cost to repair it will outweigh the "fuel" savings.
IMO it was developed to meet cafe standards then pushed on us as a selling point.
up to 2022 i feel like most people got it because they bought from lot inventory. like, i wonder how many buyers actually opted for it when they ordered their truck?
in 2023 you got stuck with it.