E torque alternator.

[zlman]

I'm at 2 months........no end in sight.

 

[GyRoCoN]

Well you can add another poor slob to the list of dead trucks due to the Failed MGU. No charging provided to the 12 volt system, nor the 48 Volt pack. Other than some increased noises during cold start recently, I hadn't noticed anything out of the ordinary other than for a period of about two days back in December, the start stop system didn't function as expected, even after being fully up to temp after 30 minutes on the highway. That seemed to resolve itself and I hadn't thought any more about it until leaving work the other morning I got the dreaded red battery symbol on the dash and the voltage meter steadily dropping from 12 to low 11's. I was lucky to make it home.
The dealership has told me that both the MGU and the 48 Volt Battery pack are cooked and need replacing. unfortunately the parts are back ordered "indefinitely" with no idea when it will become available. In My case, the truck only has 52,000 98% highway Kilometers on it (32000 miles). not a good omen for the long term durability of the system.

 

[1791]

first i hope everyone gets their trucks repaired soon. i'm mad for you
making ET standard was BS. both times i got 5th gen's i searched long and hard for a truck that didn't have it and that was before this became a big issue and man am i glad i did. i could have got new but i bought used in 23 because i saw the writing on the wall.
while the truck is down the warranty time is ticking away and your beloved truck is useless.
lemon law is what i would push. you guys should look into that i would hope that ram would get the part's out for repairs if they are forced to buyback alot of trucks. stalintus is still making V6 trucks with the battery and MGU everyday. it seems like the supply of parts is going into new trucks leaving none for repairs.
when they bring back the hemi and they are the production line will place even more demand for them.
RAM CARES? YEAH RIGHT!!! you a-holes, if you care start pulling MGU's from the production line and get these owners trucks back on the road. you are losing customers over this. so do you CARE? if you do i can't tell. these customers are not going to buy another ram again.

 

[oe542bob]

Just wondering if there is any way to eliminate the MGU and just go back to just having an alternator? I’m certainly not tech savvy enough to do it, but maybe there are some folks that are??? Just like the air ride system which some have replaced with a standard spring suspension, some things can be done. My ‘22 was available with or without the eTorque, so in theory in my mind, just maybe it would be doable.

 

[Kennyc2680]

I am in this predicament myself now, 2023 with 21,000 miles and I started getting a burning rubber smell in the cab. Took it into the dealer and they found the etorque unit was seizing up causing the serpentine belt to be dragging and making the burning rubber smell. It has now sat on their lot for 1 week. They tell me a date of February 27th for part but not to hold my breath on this. Luckily they got me into a new Dodge Charger loaner. I need a truck though. Hopefully we all get the parts soon

 

[1791]

Just wondering if there is any way to eliminate the MGU and just go back to just having an alternator? I’m certainly not tech savvy enough to do it, but maybe there are some folks that are??? Just like the air ride system which some have replaced with a standard spring suspension, some things can be done. My ‘22 was available with or without the eTorque, so in theory in my mind, just maybe it would be doable.

my 2020 had and my 2019 have the battery ground and the harness for the battery behind the back seat so the harness is similar to a point. as far as i can tell you are stuck with it. so far looks like no one has taken the time to do the R+D or even attempt removing the system, it's seems to be cost prohibitive. if i could figure it out i would turn it into a business and sell a kit. there is a market for it now and in the future.
i passed on a minty 32000 dollar LOADED 22 hydro blue laramie sport with 45k on it because of that dam E-T. i ended up paying 30k for a super clean loaded 2019 ivory white laramie with 65k on it because it had no MGU. i think i made the right decision, no i know i did.

 

[oe542bob]

The way these vehicles are integrated with electronics ( PCM, TCM, BCM, etc ) it isn’t like years past. Those days past I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the hardware and switch it over. Just I’m not sure if you would switch hardware necessary if you could then get it “communicate” with the modules within the electronics. That’s my biggest worry. Out of my wheelhouse.
My thought is on my ‘22 1500 Hemi, it could be eTorque or not when I ordered it. Makes me think that at least through ‘22 models that it can be done. So, find a wrecked truck with useable parts ( or new parts “IF” you can get them ) and swap stuff to a regular alternator. Naturally there may be some conditions that make it impossible such as maybe the block of an eTorque motor might be made differently so as not to allow a mounting bracket or something to fit. I don’t really know. But NO MGUs to be had really makes these trucks nothing more than a boat anchor, or how about this, put them aboard the SS UNITED STATES and they all can turn into a reef off the Florida keys.

 

[bigdodge]

Just to be clear… the Generator unit has nothing to do with the initial starting of the truck. That’s 100% battery and the traditional 12V starter. The Generator has nothing to do with starting the motor until certain criteria is met.. some of them being engine temp, cabin temp, etc.

The Generator is only active for S/S once the criteria is met.

not exactly

 

[SpeedyV]

my 2020 had and my 2019 have the battery ground and the harness for the battery behind the back seat so the harness is similar to a point. as far as i can tell you are stuck with it. so far looks like no one has taken the time to do the R+D or even attempt removing the system, it's seems to be cost prohibitive. if i could figure it out i would turn it into a business and sell a kit. there is a market for it now and in the future.
i passed on a minty 32000 dollar LOADED 22 hydro blue laramie sport with 45k on it because of that dam E-T. i ended up paying 30k for a super clean loaded 2019 ivory white laramie with 65k on it because it had no MGU. i think i made the right decision, no i know i did.

I’m just surprised nobody is remanufacturing MGUs yet (that I’m aware of). Seems like it would be a money maker.

Knock on wood…no issues with my ‘19 eTorque HEMI.

 

[1791]

The way these vehicles are integrated with electronics ( PCM, TCM, BCM, etc ) it isn’t like years past. Those days past I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the hardware and switch it over. Just I’m not sure if you would switch hardware necessary if you could then get it “communicate” with the modules within the electronics. That’s my biggest worry. Out of my wheelhouse.
My thought is on my ‘22 1500 Hemi, it could be eTorque or not when I ordered it. Makes me think that at least through ‘22 models that it can be done. So, find a wrecked truck with useable parts ( or new parts “IF” you can get them ) and swap stuff to a regular alternator. Naturally there may be some conditions that make it impossible such as maybe the block of an eTorque motor might be made differently so as not to allow a mounting bracket or something to fit. I don’t really know. But NO MGUs to be had really makes these trucks nothing more than a boat anchor, or how about this, put them aboard the SS UNITED STATES and they all can turn into a reef off the Florida keys.

no same block just different programing and accessory drive. i assume this situation will affect resale values of these trucks. i thought i saw here you can take the control unit off the top and put it on another generator then you don't have to get it reprogramed. it's a hail mary but if the v6 generator is the same as the 5.7 then i would get a used unit off ebay i see several available they are 200-300 then i would put in on myself however if it's under warranty that will void it

 

[1791]

I’m just surprised nobody is remanufacturing MGUs yet (that I’m aware of). Seems like it would be a money maker.

Knock on wood…no issues with my ‘19 eTorque HEMI.

supposedly ram is keeping a tight leash on the cores......even a service that you send in you MGU for rebuild would be good???

 

[dajogejr]

not exactly

Please elaborate.

 

[1791]

t

Please elaborate.

the generator actually turns the motor over not the starter on start stop and turns the wheels a whopping 1/2 turn to get the truck going from a stop.
go down the youtube video rabbit hole

 

[Cbty2050]

t

the generator actually turns the motor over not the starter on start stop and turns the wheels a whopping 1/2 turn to get the truck going from a stop.
go down the youtube video rabbit hole

You might want to go read the posts. what he has stated is 100% accurate. The MGU has nothing to do with the initial starting of the truck. The MGU doesn't start the truck in S/S until all requirements are met....

 

[1791]

You might want to go read the posts. what he has stated is 100% accurate. The MGU has nothing to do with the initial starting of the truck. The MGU doesn't start the truck in S/S until all requirements are met....

no i get it, but s/s also don't use the starter. s/s uses the MGU to start the truck. the idea was to keep the wear and tear off the starter and it's kind of a bandaid to meet fuel and emission requirements.

 

[dajogejr]

• The eTorque system replaces the traditional alternator with a motor generator that's powered by a 48-volt battery.

calling it an alternator is incorrect as the heading of this post states

Look, I’m not trying to be a clown..
But you realize, in the very post you quoted me, I called it a generator…not once, not twice, but 3 times…

I’m not the OP, therefore I didn’t create the headline for the post.. I know it’s not an alternator.
The fact you quoted me calling it a generator…and didn’t think to go back and see who the original poster (OP) was…maybe this internet thing isn’t for you.

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[dajogejr]

no i get it, but s/s also don't use the starter. s/s uses the MGU to start the truck. the idea was to keep the wear and tear off the starter and it's kind of a bandaid to meet fuel and emission requirements.

Yep, I covered that too. I said it only is used for S/S once it meets certain criteria..
I literally posted this:
The Generator is only active for S/S once the criteria is met.

 

[Brutal_HO]

wow
you state "Please elaborate" in post 72 and then go all postal when I do.

you are something..........

You're attributing a falsehood to the wrong author. He responded in kind.

Drop it and move on everyone. Please.

 

[GM26J]

Update. Supposedly I have an MGU coming March 3 (according to Chrysler/RAM corporate. We shall see, but I'll post back here.

 

[MotorcycleBoy]

I try to understand by reading what you write....
here in Italy, due to absurd regulations, new cars must all be at least mild hybrid (more or less like the RAM)
but .... I seem to have understood that the RAM (I have a 1500 e-torque 2022) uses the generator ONLY for starting with S/S.... is this correct?
yet when starting from a standing start the ram seems very "ready" to me