Anyone wanna help me with this mystery?

[Redz72]

After my 5100s and 35" tires I was feeling a floating feeling. Jumped in the suspensionmaxx front end link bandwagon getting the set for lifted applications, and they made a difference. Definitely eliminated the floating feeling.

I’ll be jumping in the SuspensionMaxx bandwagon as well in the next few weeks so it’s good to hear another good opinion on them. I don’t have the floats, but I’m sure the stock front end links won’t last long and I’d like to return the front sway bar to near stock geometry.

 

[Detroitmikeb]

After my 5100s and 35" tires I was feeling a floating feeling. Jumped in the suspensionmaxx front end link bandwagon getting the set for lifted applications, and they made a difference. Definitely eliminated the floating feeling.

Was it like being in a boat prior to the end links? Like a sway if you hit a bump?

 

[CalvinC]

This is highly perplexing.

Do you have any sense enough to guess whether the side to side tossing is more likely coming from the front or rear?

Wondering if rear coils are clocked incorrectly… or if it’s even possible they be installed incorrectly clocked, as fronts can?

Other thing to check maybe is rear panhard bar / lateral link. I could see if it had loose bushings or perhaps not extended properly that it might cause a “fight” side to side every time the suspension is unloaded the reloaded.

Sorry man sort of reaching here.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Was it like being in a boat prior to the end links? Like a sway if you hit a bump?

It wasn't horrible, but definitely noticeable. The longer and stiffer end links corrected the sway bar position to make it more effective

 

[Detroitmikeb]

This is highly perplexing.

Do you have any sense enough to guess whether the side to side tossing is more likely coming from the front or rear?

Wondering if rear coils are clocked incorrectly… or if it’s even possible they be installed incorrectly clocked, as fronts can?

Other thing to check maybe is rear panhard bar / lateral link. I could see if it had loose bushings or perhaps not extended properly that it might cause a “fight” side to side every time the suspension is unloaded the reloaded.

Sorry man sort of reaching here.

Thanks. It's hard to tell, it's like any shift in weight rocks the truck. Feels like it's from the front.

I actually replaced the panhard bar with a core 4x4. Much higher quality but still didn't make a difference. I have no lift in the rear so I just got the OEM size.

I think signs are pointing toward the wheels and or tires. sigh.

 

[PurpleRT]

Not that I want you spending more money but if you end up swapping endlinks you cant go wrong w/ Suspension Maxx and either Moog or Energy suspension for swaybar bushings.. it might not be a bad idea to have both these on hands during your wheel swap troubleshooting fiasco.


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[Detroitmikeb]

Not that I want you more money but if you end up swapping endlinks you cant go wrong w/ Suspension Maxx and either Moog or Energy suspension for swaybar bushings.. it might not be a bad idea to have both these on hands during your wheel swap troubleshooting fiasco.


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Good advice. I have a pair of Energy Suspensions ready to go. Saturday I'll go under there and put them on and make sure everything is nice and tight. Suspension Max end links have been on my list but I've been waiting for Core 4x4 to possibly release some fronts, so they match my rears, I'm a tad OCD.

I might just take my truck to the dealer. I dunno. I'll see when my cousin can spare some time and swap wheels/tires with me.

 

[PurpleRT]

Just think about it Core 4x4 has had ram products out for a while and still no front endlinks probably not gonna happen lol. So tell your OCD to get on board with the Suspension Maxx idea.


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[Detroitmikeb]

Just think about it Core 4x4 has had ram products out for a while and still no front endlinks probably not gonna happen lol. So tell your OCD to get on board with the Suspension Maxx idea.


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lol. I probably will. Check this out…

I bought a 2nd hellwig swaybar just to compare. I can return it on Amazon easily. Look at the difference. The arms sit at a different angle on the new one. They are angled up more. And yes they are both laying the same way.

 

[Redz72]

lol. I probably will. Check this out…

I bought a 2nd hellwig swaybar just to compare. I can return it on Amazon easily. Look at the difference. The arms sit at a different angle on the new one. They are angled up more. And yes they are both laying the same way.

Are they both 7709’s? Because Hellwig released a newer, beefier (7/8” vs 1” OD) sway bar.

 

[Detroitmikeb]

Are they both 7709’s? Because Hellwig released a newer, beefier (7/8” vs 1” OD) sway bar.

Checked my receipts. Both 7709

 

[mplaramie]

If both the first and second sway bars came from Amazon, one may be a knock off.....

 

[Redz72]

Checked my receipts. Both 7709

Id reach out to Hellwig directly and show them. If I were them, I’d like to know if my product wasn’t up to par, or failing over time, or being bootlegged etc. They would know best. Maybe you got a bad bar the first time?

 

[Detroitmikeb]

Id reach out to Hellwig directly and show them. If I were them, I’d like to know if my product wasn’t up to par, or failing over time, or being bootlegged etc. They would know best. Maybe you got a bad bar the first time?

One is from realtruck.com and one is from Amazon. Hmmm. They both feel the same material wise? I haven’t driven my truck yet since swapping. I will soon.

 

[Detroitmikeb]

The one from amazkn’s box looks legit.

 

[Redz72]

Mine came in a Blue (I think) and white box with Hellwig plastered on the Front/top big cover that you flip open. I also ordered mine from Amazon. Regardless of where they came from, reaching out to Hellwig directly would be best. As you stated and showed in the pictures, the geometry is significantly off which would concern me quite a bit.

 

[Detroitmikeb]

Mine came in a Blue (I think) and white box with Hellwig plastered on the Front/top big cover that you flip open. I also ordered mine from Amazon. Regardless of where they came from, reaching out to Hellwig directly would be best. As you stated and showed in the pictures, the geometry is significantly off which would concern me quite a bit.

Both of mine came in the same white box. No logos or anything. Odd. I’m going to email them.

 

[Detroitmikeb]

Guys it was that ****ing hellwig! Just drove with the new one, center setting and it’s phenomenal. I didn’t even need the 5100’s I guess but it feels more planted, firmer in a good way so whatever. But damn I swore I tried it with the stock swaybar.

When you mod, mod slowly one thing at a time. Lesson learned.

Here’s a pic just for fun.

Thanks for all the help!

 

[PurpleRT]

Really lol thats unexpected


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[Ready Go]

Yep, one at a time is the best way!
Slow is good, smooth is fast!