4WD Off Road

[LouNY]

Found the video. Guess it wasn't RWD, but 4x4 without a limited slip or e-locker. And TFL did the test

I am impressed by how well it did in those tests, I don't see the same results in many situations, those are very steep and hard pulls.

 

[devildodge]

BLDS is not designed for high speed anything.

I want so badly to join in on the conversation...but not having a 5th Gen, the route to get there is different than my 4th Gen HeftyDuty.

Man, some very interesting stuff gets discussed in some very odd ways at this place.

Carry on.

 

[HSKR R/T]

That was a good video. He said basic 4WD without locker. I’m assuming it didn’t have limited slip, (said “without goodies”).

The BLD worked great, first off.

HIS terminology was a little off, he always referred to the Traction Control, even when traction control was turned off (4WD Low), but that does not matter. Never mentioned BLD but we know truck had it.

In 4WD LOW (where we know the traction control is off) the front and rear axle was able to get torque through the BLD by applying wheel braking, even when the other wheel was airborne. The front axle obviously has no LSD or locker, and the rear no locker and we have to assume no LSD also.

So from that video, the BLD works great.
Not a reason to not have locker or limited slip.

Note to self:
The best test for BLD with the switchology, is have one wheel on the axle in question
airborne.

Yes, I hope we all understand the feature that was doing the work was the BLD, which is part of traction control. And it was a very good video showcasing it. I'm glad I was able to find it again. The roller test really showed it in action the best. And was glad he mentioned that applying steady movement of gas pedal to keep power to wheels was needed for it to properly work. A lot of people try to gun it, or will stop and start to try and get it going

 

[devildodge]

A lot of people try to gun it, or will stop and start to try and get it going

These are the key things to avoid with it.

Which is why I can not figure out why there is such a need to try doing a burnout to prove it works. Makes no sense...but who am I.

Put the truck in something slippy, get the tires spinning, remain even and steady in the accelerator, the BLDS does its magic and out you come.

This is why it works best in 4wd low.

It is the single best thing, next to a Locked PowerWagon.

In numerous posts, I have explained to hold steady. Do not start/stop or Gun it.

Most Everytime, someone comes and says BLDS does not work...and Everytime they are shown to hold that throttle steady...wow...it works.

Great stuff.

 

[Ramroo]

Happy to see to see how the truck performed on the rollers and wheel airborne tests.

The truck in 4WD Low, the BLD works awesome on BOTH front and rear. I know Ram said all trucks have it and nice to see confirmation on the front also.

The first test in 2WD on a single roller (didn’t turn TC off), it did not move off the rollers.
It was kind of a quick test. Maybe didn’t give it enough time, or maybe needed to turn off TC, but the BLD didn’t work. Any ideas?

I bet the truck with Power Reduction and braking on spinning wheel (TC On), was unable to pull off the rollers , especially the power reduction. I wish he tried just turning TC off and try again in 2WD as opposed to going straight to 4WD.

 

[theblet]

Ok lets see some doughnuts.

I grew out of this phase of life

 

[HSKR R/T]

I grew out of this phase of life

Blasphemy

 

[Dewey]

I grew out of this phase of life

Never too old to do donuts.

Just the other day I turned of TC and had some fun in the snow spinning a few. Miss the old days when we didn’t have all the extra crap to turn off. Takes the fun out of it.

 

[Ramroo]

I grew out of this phase of life

Yea, we are past the doughnuts. Keep up
I think you need to get some wheels airborne. What else do you have to do?

 

[Dewey]

Yea, we are past the doughnuts. Keep up
I think you need to get some wheels airborne. What else do you have to do?

 

[Ramroo]

Never too old to do donuts.

Just the other day I turned off TC and had some fun in the snow spinning a few. Miss the old days when we didn’t have all the extra crap to turn off. Takes the fun out of it.

Does take some fun out of it for sure. I still get too crazy in the mud. That’s why I always carry at least 1 chainsaw with me, prefer 2.
I have slid down too many off camber hills into the woods from the field. Cut my way out.

 

[theblet]

Never too old to do donuts.

Just the other day I turned of TC and had some fun in the snow spinning a few. Miss the old days when we didn’t have all the extra crap to turn off. Takes the fun out of it.

Well, I had a corvette years ago and the rear tires only lasted 5,000 miles and I had to change them. Ever since then no burnouts or donuts haha. If I had s field to do it it maybe. But my subdivision frowns upon that

 

[theblet]

Yea, we are past the doughnuts. Keep up
I think you need to get some wheels airborne. What else do you have to do?

If I had a place to do it maybe so lol

 

[HSKR R/T]

Well, I had a corvette years ago and the rear tires only lasted 5,000 miles and I had to change them. Ever since then no burnouts or donuts haha. If I had s field to do it it maybe. But my subdivision frowns upon that

Back in the day, I went through a full set of four tires every 6 months in my Dakota R/T for three years

 

[theblet]

Back in the day, I went through a full set of four tires every 6 months in my Dakota R/T for three years

Yikes. Good times I bet

 

[HSKR R/T]

Yikes. Good times I bet

Yep, back when I was young and single with no debt and few bills.

 

[LouNY]

Happy to see to see how the truck performed on the rollers and wheel airborne tests.

The truck in 4WD Low, the BLD works awesome on BOTH front and rear. I know Ram said all trucks have it and nice to see confirmation on the front also.

The first test in 2WD on a single roller (didn’t turn TC off), it did not move off the rollers.
It was kind of a quick test. Maybe didn’t give it enough time, or maybe needed to turn off TC, but the BLD didn’t work. Any ideas?

It was impressive in that test.
However put that truck on a 25-26% slope on snow and ice and that system doesn't seem to work near that well.

 

[theblet]

Yep, back when I was young and single with no debt and few bills.

Yes sir!

 

[WXman]

48-11 AWD t-case sucks for off road use in ANY range selection. That's something I learned 30 seconds after leaving a roadway for the first time. Never again will I buy a truck with AWD or "Auto".

In fact if I end up keeping this truck the t-case may get swapped out for a 48-12 at some point.

 

[theblet]

You can see BLD working on this jeep. Not sure what diff he has, what traclock is, or if he had TC disabled, but he did get out of the ditch without grips.