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2025 RAM 1500 BIGHORN 3.0 I HURRICANE twin-turbo, SO, 420HP - check engine light

At some point ""NOW"" Stellantis needs to step in and support the product that they released and educate the d.....f....k lazy dealers that only know how to change oil and filter (most of them f...k this up also).
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

This is the issue, the training is there. The dealers/techs can scroll through the info and call it done. You go to a training class, they give you a book, that book has all the post test answers in it. It is like this at every automotive manufacturers training.
 
I truly appreciate your work ethic. It is refreshing. Thank you.
our problem is most of the dealer network that is not up to the acceptable standard of ethics/intelligence.
 
I truly appreciate your work ethic. It is refreshing. Thank you.
our problem is most of the dealer network that is not up to the acceptable standard of ethics/intelligence.
It's not the dealer, it's the pile of **** techs that don't want to do better/be better. Most are just hacks, duct taped boot wearing lazy slobs. They wait for someone else to solve the hard problems and then piggy back off of them for the fix.
 
Hardly. I don't recall '19s being sidelines in mid 2018 with these issues....and I took delivery of my '19 in mid 2018, about 6-7 weeks after placing the order.

Stellantis is a s%#@ show right now. Feel bad for the guys who forked over a lot of cash only to be without their new trucks...
I've owned a 2019 3500, a 2007 Ram C&C (which was available in early 06 as a 2007 MY). Also owned a 2004.5 2500 4X4 5.9 CTD with manual trans, and a 1994 2500 360 magnum, (The truck that saved Dodge trucks) but I have never read so much trouble that the 2025 3.0 SST has, then all of the first edition trucks I've owned.
 
I’m going to keep reporting on my truck as I haven’t experienced any check engine lights yet but it does have some issues. Shifting from 2-3 has a small Hiccup. Almost like it holds the gear and then pops into 3rd too quick. Down shifting from 4-3-2 has some very horrible spots. It surges a bit and makes the truck jolt like it’s engaging and disengaging the gears. This only happens when I apply very light brakes and let the engine speed lower through the gear. As for the engine, I do feel like it’s misfiring or like it can’t build up boost around 1800-2200 rpm but only on 2-3 gear at very light throttle. Almost feels like it has no power then it rushes in. I started driving it a bit harder and it feels better that way. FYI I’ve been pumping only 93 octane from Costco now.
 
Interesting events in regards to my check engine light issues....loner 2025 Ram 1500 Big Horn the check engine light came on...was going to call the dealer to bring that truck in too...I got a flat and put the spare on to make it home...tire pressure system error came on...okay, BUT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS OFF NOW!!! Maybe the fix is to take off a tire, let it register with the vehicle, and then put it back on...lol
 
Interesting events in regards to my check engine light issues....loner 2025 Ram 1500 Big Horn the check engine light came on...was going to call the dealer to bring that truck in too...I got a flat and put the spare on to make it home...tire pressure system error came on...okay, BUT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS OFF NOW!!! Maybe the fix is to take off a tire, let it register with the vehicle, and then put it back on...lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Keep us updated. Mine is still running like crap at startup and 1000-2000 rpm when driving.
 
Hello all! I've been keeping up with this thread for over a week. I'm sharing my situation. I bought my truck early June in Orlando. As with any new vehicle purchase it was an all-day ordeal. After detailing the service dept was working on the vehicle for another 90 minutes. The salesman said they were "charging the turbos" , saying they were at 80% from the factory which I knew was BS. At the end I was out of patience and asked the sales manager what was really going on. He looked into it and said they needed to charge the battery. It sounded like another lame excuse.

Fast forward... I managed to put over 2k miles on it in 3 weeks without issue... then the light came on. I brought it to another dealership and they said it was a loose wiring harness and a frayed wire. Two days later and the light came back on again... and here I am waiting for answers while the dealership has it sitting in their lot for 11 days now. I finally got an update today. I was told there is a specialist who is working on 80 different cases of this but the software update needs to be approved by the federal govt since it's emissions related. No resolution today but maybe by next week? I'm not holding my breath. I plan on going to the original dealership tomorrow to voice my displeasure in person!
 
Hello all! I've been keeping up with this thread for over a week. I'm sharing my situation. I bought my truck early June in Orlando. As with any new vehicle purchase it was an all-day ordeal. After detailing the service dept was working on the vehicle for another 90 minutes. The salesman said they were "charging the turbos" , saying they were at 80% from the factory which I knew was BS. At the end I was out of patience and asked the sales manager what was really going on. He looked into it and said they needed to charge the battery. It sounded like another lame excuse.

Fast forward... I managed to put over 2k miles on it in 3 weeks without issue... then the light came on. I brought it to another dealership and they said it was a loose wiring harness and a frayed wire. Two days later and the light came back on again... and here I am waiting for answers while the dealership has it sitting in their lot for 11 days now. I finally got an update today. I was told there is a specialist who is working on 80 different cases of this but the software update needs to be approved by the federal govt since it's emissions related. No resolution today but maybe by next week? I'm not holding my breath. I plan on going to the original dealership tomorrow to voice my displeasure in person!

Sorry you guys have to go through this. "Charging the turbos", wow dealership folks never cease to amaze me on what they will say. However, you would think a simple mid-cycle refresh with an engine that has been on the market for 2 years in other vehicles wouldn't have this type of trouble.

Hoping it's a simple non-invasive fix for you guys, to spend that kind of money these days and have to put up with this stuff sucks.
 
Checking In: Trucks been at the dealer for the 2nd Check Engine Light since purchasing. Dropped it off on 7/5/24. I contacted Mike Macdonald from Stellantis and complained about the issues I've been having. Luckily he got back to me and said he was going to stay ontop of my case. I haven't heard anything new from the dealership besides "We're working with the top engineers and software techs for Chrysler". I told Mike that I refuse to make any payments on this truck until Its fixed and its in my hands. He ended up cutting me a check for 3 monthly payments of my loan. Still in a dealer loaner Grand Cherokee for now.
 
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Hello all! I've been keeping up with this thread for over a week. I'm sharing my situation. I bought my truck early June in Orlando. As with any new vehicle purchase it was an all-day ordeal. After detailing the service dept was working on the vehicle for another 90 minutes. The salesman said they were "charging the turbos" , saying they were at 80% from the factory which I knew was BS. At the end I was out of patience and asked the sales manager what was really going on. He looked into it and said they needed to charge the battery. It sounded like another lame excuse.

Fast forward... I managed to put over 2k miles on it in 3 weeks without issue... then the light came on. I brought it to another dealership and they said it was a loose wiring harness and a frayed wire. Two days later and the light came back on again... and here I am waiting for answers while the dealership has it sitting in their lot for 11 days now. I finally got an update today. I was told there is a specialist who is working on 80 different cases of this but the software update needs to be approved by the federal govt since it's emissions related. No resolution today but maybe by next week? I'm not holding my breath. I plan on going to the original dealership tomorrow to voice my displeasure in person!
If there’s gonna be some sort of software update for this issue, is that something you’d have to take it back to the dealership for? Since I’ve been dealing with this CEL problem that affects my remote start, they told me it was throwing a code for misfiring on start up and the cause was because of foreign fluid in the fuel. Since it’s currently at the dealership I’m wondering if I should just leave it there in the mean time if they end up needing it for any software update
 
It is hard to determine how many people own 2025, how many of them have cel and other issues
It will be helpful to have a poll created for 2025.
It should give us a better idea about the CEL and other issues with 2025.
 
Yesterday while fill-up, a owner of a 2025 pulled up next to me. I got to talking to him and asked him if he had any issues with his truck and his mileage. He was about to hit 6k miles and said he had no issues with the CEL, but did have some funky transmission shifts. He said he didn't feel them much anymore, but it could be because he was getting use to it and ignoring it.
 
You are working with a dealer that is full of it. The phasers/gears are separate from the camshafts and can be serviced. There is a whole class on it offered by Stellantis, every tech should take it(many do not). How long has Alfa used the 3.0 Hurricane engine?
I'm no mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, at least on new technology. I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night either, so I'm not going to claim I have a clue what they're talking about. They haven't laid a finger on my truck, so I don't know how they've deduced it needs a cam. I did talk to three separate Dodge dealers yesterday, and they all said the same thing almost word for word...If the cam is bad, the entire engine needs to be replaced. Stellantis corporate is involved now, along with Ram Care Customer Retention. This entire situation is fubar, but the dealer seems to be holding all the cards. At least I have a loaner (a Charger GT), and believe me, I'm driving it like I stole it. It has the Pentastar V6 in it, but you wouldn't know it by the way it drives. Quick little car, yes sir.
 
Hopefully I’ll be able to pick my truck up this week, as it seemed like they were done with it when I spoke with them last week and from checking the location, it’s just been sitting in their lot. After having told me that there was foreign fluid in the fuel which was causing my misfires on startup which caused the CEL, I planned on asking them if they took an actual fuel sample or if they’re just assuming, etc. I’m having to pay for the flush of the fuel system because they’re telling me it’s not covered under warranty, but if they didn’t take a fuel sample should I not be able to refuse paying that? If it ends up being that it’s a software issue like possibly everyone else is dealing with, just figured I might throw some feelers here for what yall would do
 
Hopefully I’ll be able to pick my truck up this week, as it seemed like they were done with it when I spoke with them last week and from checking the location, it’s just been sitting in their lot. After having told me that there was foreign fluid in the fuel which was causing my misfires on startup which caused the CEL, I planned on asking them if they took an actual fuel sample or if they’re just assuming, etc. I’m having to pay for the flush of the fuel system because they’re telling me it’s not covered under warranty, but if they didn’t take a fuel sample should I not be able to refuse paying that? If it ends up being that it’s a software issue like possibly everyone else is dealing with, just figured I might throw some feelers here for what yall would do
When the 2019 & 2020 6.7 CTD trucks started to lose the CP4.2 HPFP early on at low miles, the first thing Ram went to was contaminated fuel. As time went on, more and more CP4.2 failures, Ram eventually recalled them and replaced them with an updated CP3. I don't remember if the owners with early failures, had to pay for it. Demand a fuel sample, and be present when the sample is taken. Don't pay for it, unless they hold it hostage, then document every penny paid on it. If its not the fuel, then the CEL's will come back.

Knowing that Ram now wants to blame fuel, you/everyone can do what I did with my 2019 CTD HO with the CP4.2 debacle. I only used 3 major gas Credit Cards, Shell, Exxon/Mobil and Chevron. I documented ever gallon, milage, MPG and wrote the location for the station used. The CC company's have their own warranty process as a safety, if its proven it was their fuel. Lucky for me it never failed, but that was sweating it out on 4K mile trips towing as well as empty, over the move from Las Vegas to Kentucky.
 
Update on my 2025 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie with the check engine light issue...They think it is the fuel delivery system that is contributing to the issue or the actual issue...the fuel pump is not delivering the required pressure is one issue he said (he told me the pressure it was putting out but it was vastly off for what he said was needed). He also said maybe a kinked fuel line (i saw this excuse on this forum so it is probably bullsh*t). He said there is no available fuel pump atm from Stellanis and to get one would be to get one off the assembly line (his words). No check engine light Codes as of yet but the Star Case # is 102539533.

They have had it for a about a total of two weeks with no defined solution in sight or peeking the horizon. Why would Stellanis offer a truck to production for customer purchases is beyond me with an issue like this? You can't tell me an issue like this just presents itself after fully testing a production model fully. I should have kept my 2009 ram 1500 and rolled the dice that a major mechanical break down didn't happen.

Beyond aggravated...
Update:

Fuel pump ordered and should be to the dealership Wednesday, July 31st. I guess this is their remedy at the moment. How they found one when the Service Advisor said there werent any I dont know. I just hope it fixes my problem, I can post the solution here so you all can get closure too, and I can get back to enjoying my new truck and start pimpin' it out. BTW, July 31st they would have had my truck longer than I have had it.
 
Update for mine is they said they took a fuel sample and it was definitely contaminated fuel. Quoting me $1200 to flush the system. I still have a hard time believing this, after having driven so many different cars in so many different countries for the past 12 years, then I just happen to buy a brand new truck and fill it with gas from the same places I always fill up at for the last 5 years since I’ve been at my current location, and all of a sudden contaminated fuel causes my misfires at cylinders 3 and 5, as well as a random misfire. I’m not saying it’s impossible because I’m sure it happens, but with so many others having similar issues as early as 50 miles on their same brand new truck, this is weird.
 
Yes - it is possible that you had contaminated fuel.
Did they provide you with a report from an establishment/lab?
What is the contamination source?
Do you fill up your other cars at the same station? If yes -- do they have any issues?
Call/contact RamCares @ least to document the event.
Unless your dealer's folks are rocket scientists - I would not trust many things they say!
 
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