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2024 Ram electric pickup

IvoryHemi

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Doesn’t mention if it’ll be 1500 or not but I would assume so to compete with Ford’s F-150

 

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To me electric vehicles are a joke because we don't have the power generation plants to support a complete conversion to electric powered vehicles. Our ignorant federal government is eliminating coal & natural gas fired power plants, nuclear energy is dead so what are we going to do for more power needs not less? Wind turbines? Solar cells? Some states have rolling blackouts when its extremely hot because they cant even support people using their AC! I just cant see these vehicles as replacing gas/diesel powered vehicles. Then when you get into towing capabilities and maximum driving range you open up even more questions. Maybe these things are great for big city commuters but they don't make sense for everyone. We should not let the federal government force consumer behavior by making fuel so expensive they force us to convert to these political ideals.
 

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To me electric vehicles are a joke because we don't have the power generation plants to support a complete conversion to electric powered vehicles. Our ignorant federal government is eliminating coal & natural gas fired power plants, nuclear energy is dead so what are we going to do for more power needs not less? Wind turbines? Solar cells? Some states have rolling blackouts when its extremely hot because they cant even support people using their AC! I just cant see these vehicles as replacing gas/diesel powered vehicles. Then when you get into towing capabilities and maximum driving range you open up even more questions. Maybe these things are great for big city commuters but they don't make sense for everyone. We should not let the federal government force consumer behavior by making fuel so expensive they force us to convert to these political ideals.
It's a chicken and egg problem (electricity production vs. consumption), but technological innovation is inevitable. You can ignore it, complain about it, or profit from it ;)
 

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I can't help but wonder that at some point our beloved full-size gas V8 pickups will be nearly impossible to unload/sell due to gas prices being sky high.
Guessing that could be a reality in less than 10 years.
 

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It's a chicken and egg problem (electricity production vs. consumption), but technological innovation is inevitable. You can ignore it, complain about it, or profit from it ;)
Actually its not so much any more the chicken egg issue. This country has stabilized CO2 emissions as the table shows since our high in 2003/2004. While we regulate the hell out of cars & trucks they are not the sole producers of CO2. For instance our high and mighty politicians fly on private jets when they could take commercial flights like the rest of us do, but will that happen because they care about the environment? No, they only take issue with things that don't inconvenience them (ergo Al Gore flying to environmental conferences in a private jet). How hypocritical can these people get? There's many more ways to reduce CO2 that are ignored. Sorry for the long winded lecture!

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I can't help but wonder that at some point our beloved full-size gas V8 pickups will be nearly impossible to unload/sell due to gas prices being sky high.
Guessing that could be a reality in less than 10 years.

Don’t sell, hold.
 

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I can't help but wonder that at some point our beloved full-size gas V8 pickups will be nearly impossible to unload/sell due to gas prices being sky high.
Guessing that could be a reality in less than 10 years.
oil industry is suffering from enormous over capacity right now. i'd say we are good for the lives of ours.
 

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Electric is inevitable, ICE Isn't going away any time soon, politicians going to politic and for-profit auto makers are going to do whatever is most profitable that people will buy.

When enough people buy electric, that's when most cars will be electric. On an infinite timeline, EV is the future and will be the default..when? who knows.

What's clear in USA and Canada, the 'public transit' dream isn't going to happen in my lifetime (I'm 34) and no matter how much we try to say we're like Europe, we're not. Our country is not setup for public transit coast to coast in a cost-effective and convenient-enough way to convince people to give up their personal vehicles.

I have owned an EV car for 2 years and just sold it. I'll re-consider EV in 10 years. It's not good enough for me yet where I live. A 33 Gallon tank Diesel RAM is going to be the best truck for me at the moment. Wife is looking at a hybrid which seems to be the best of both worlds.

I have an order in on a Tri-Motor Cybertruck. Why am I not going to exercise that order?
1. 250 mile range estimated when towing
2. Having to stop for an hour to recharge on road trips
3. 'simplistic' cabin is worse user experience. I want a mute button, screen off button, turn signal stalks, ventilated seats, CarPlay, under seat storage, etc etc
4. No price negotiation. that truck is going to be 80 grand, my RAM is going to be 63K with every option and immediate fill ups and longer range
5. Unknown resale value
6. Tesla can't seem to repair cars very fast. some fender bender people waiting 3 months for parts
7. Generally poor manufacturing experience.
8. Poor customer service where features just lock or go missing with software updates

If a truck company can make a 1000 mile pickup truck with 30 minute charging and buttons everywhere and reliability...I'll consider it.
 

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Electric is going to happen, but as mentioned, the chicken or the egg situation. But it starts somewhere, things will get built and capacity will eventually get met. I think the timelines proposed may be a bit ambitious but they aren't written in stone. Those goals can change as well to adjust to reality.

Even in the most strictest of proposal regarding gas powered vehicles, non of them ban them outright. You should still be able to enjoy your gas truck or car for at least your lifetime.
 

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Electric cars are still in R&D. They need to figure out the power source, 1000 lbs of battery is not the answer. There was a Tesla accident a few weeks ago and the battery was on fire/arcing for 4 over hours
 

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It'll be fascinating to see whether we're still having these same conversation in 10 years...or even 5. Dozens, if not hundreds, of EVs will hit the market in the next 5 years (if manufacturers' plans are to be believed). My Ram has been great, but when it comes time to replace my wife's Audi, we find that we are talking more and more about which of the forthcoming EVs will replace it...
 

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Electric cars are still in R&D. They need to figure out the power source, 1000 lbs of battery is not the answer. There was a Tesla accident a few weeks ago and the battery was on fire/arcing for 4 over hours

I remember reading an article recently that the majority of fire departments are not trained and don’t have the proper equipment to handle EV fires.
 

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I remember reading an article recently that the majority of fire departments are not trained and don’t have the proper equipment to handle EV fires.
That's another good market opportunity (PPE, training, and FP equipment) to invest in...
 

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Some states have rolling blackouts when its extremely hot because they cant even support people using their AC!

We have rolling blackouts here in CA in hot weather, but not because there isn't enough power. It's because the infrastructure is so poorly maintained that overheated and sparking transformers spark wildfires. Their theory is that by turning off power to some areas, they lessen the spark risk.
 

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We've owned Teslas since the first Roadster, and I just ordered a Limited. While I love Tesla for a daily driver, there isn't a viable electric truck now that has the range while towing. But once there is, I'll switch in a heartbeat. I love being able to leave the house every day with a full "tank." and I love the lack of emissions. Plus when you compare cradle-to-grave impact on the environment (including electricity generation vs petroleum production and battery disposal), EVs are better for the environment.

My guess is we're about 5 years, minimum, away from viable electric trucks. Until then, I'll enjoy my Limited :)
 

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I'm ambivalent about all of it, but I know I tend to lean Ludditish :) . I love the sound of a good V8 but that's what I grew up with. I love the fact that I can drive hundreds of miles, stop for 10 minutes and then drive hundreds more. I love that it has an absurd amount of power.

On the other hand, I can see the appeal of electric stuff. I've gone electric/battery powered with a good number of my gas yard tools - I love the battery weedeater especially; despite using Stabil, high-octane no-ethanol gas those freaking weedeaters still don't run worth a **** in the spring. I love the battery leaf blower, which is strong, quiet, instantly on, and I can run for about an hour with 3 batteries. Last summer I jumped for a battery-powered chain saw (I really call it a trim saw) for hauling around in the truck when I'm at a property and see a couple of small limbs that need to be lopped - no gas or priming needed. Yeah, I still keep a good 18" Huskie in the shed for the bigger stuff (I really need a 24") but I find I'm using it less and less because the battery one is just 5 seconds and I'm finished, no smell no gas no fuss. I especially love that electric stuff is so much quieter and doesn't stink.

So I'm guessing I'll probably never have an electric truck, and I don't feel bad about that. But if they came out with a reasonable hybrid Ram - say one that had 50-100 miles of electric juice in there for most of your daily out and about town stuff, and a good V-whatever (prefer 8, but you know) to charge it up and run you down the road a couple hundred more miles besides - and the price and repair parts was reasonable - I would probably buy it.
 

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All Ram has to do is bring out an electric version of my Limited with a range of around 400 miles while towing and I'm in. Yes, I'll miss the throatiness of my Hemi, but hey I can always record it and play it back for nostalgia. :cool:
 

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Electric cars are still in R&D. They need to figure out the power source, 1000 lbs of battery is not the answer. There was a Tesla accident a few weeks ago and the battery was on fire/arcing for 4 over hours

I just read a new report about this crash. The Fire Chief says the “four hour fire” wasn’t true, and they had the main fire out within 4 minutes.

After that, they had to continue to passively cool - since there were still bodies in the car and it was an investigation site, they couldn’t be as aggressive as usual in putting out the residual fire. I expect that usually, the would have blasted a car fire until was completely out, but that would have damaged the bodies.

 

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