Slight vibration

[Overlander]

I have a 2019 Limited w/ a build date of 3/19 (~1k miles). Came with Yokahama AT, have since switched to Bridgestones. I have now gone through a total of 16 tires and the issues have been improved but still remain. I have gone through road force balance with each and confirmed very low numbers (that's good). I'm still experiencing intermittent vibrations at different speeds/RPM's. I think several theories on here are very possible explanations for whatever we are experiencing (torque converter, buffeting, engine mounts, etc).

One question I would like to get answered and haven't had a chance: do we have hub centric or lug centric OE wheels? If the balance is set with lug centric and it's slightly off, then I assume a low RFB number could still create random vibrations if we have hub centric wheels....?

These random vibrations are about to drive me crazy. I'm a new a new Ram convert from Ford and I'm starting to regret my decision.


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[Billy James]

It’s the tires not the truck!

Hey everyone I have a ram limited with 22” and same vibration...console, door, and accelerator. I have had this for little while and I decided to do some more detail work. Had discount tire do one tire at a time and then rotate front to back and all this and so forth with about 10 trips there to do one thing at a time so they don’t screw up something all ready good. So in short all balancing and road force and swapping 2 tires as soon as I moved only left driver front to left driver rear the vibration in console, door, and accelerator dramatically reduced. The concole and door not longer vibrate at all but the accelerator does. So that would mean the driver front that was moved to the rear is and was the culprit.

I am at discount now doing the rear driver rebalance and see if at that high speed it stops. If it doesn’t then I’m going to right side and rotate front to back. Also please note that when at high speed you break and your steering wheel shakes that is also a clue to the front. If your steering wheel doesn’t shake when you brake from high speed but your butt or rear does then go to back. Do a test then do rotation without rebalance and see if that shake moves.

Ram claims that all wheels is on independent suspension so each side has its own movement up and down and all the stuff you guys are feeling is most likely the wheel right under the driver side.

Let me know your thoughts.

I tend to agree with you. I haven't done anything about mine yet. However, mine began around 5500 miles; right after the dealership rotated my tires when the truck was in for service. I noticed it the very next morning after my tires were rotated.

 

[Diamond Black Hemi]

November build date on my truck Laramie sport 4x2 blackout 22" wheels 3.92 gears. Vibrations at 60 mph as well, seems like the magic number for most people.

 

[mdw3998]

I feel like I may be getting a slight vibration between the speeds of 57-63 mph. It’s not mds related because I have used the gear selector to turn it off. Anyone else experiencing this? I can mainly feel it in the floor.

I put on new wheels, new Michelins, RFBed, vibration still there. Dealer is escalating issue. ANYONE WITH THIS ONGOING ISSUE SHOULD CALL THE CHRYSLER HOTLINE @ 1-800-334-9200
They open a case and work with your dealer. Also if we all open cases, they will see it's a widespread issue.

 

[mdw3998]

I tend to agree with you. I haven't done anything about mine yet. However, mine began around 5500 miles; right after the dealership rotated my tires when the truck was in for service. I noticed it the very next morning after my tires were rotated.

I respectfully disagree, however some may be having different root causes or multiple causes. I put on new Michelins and new wheels, no run out and RFBed them all. Still vibrates. Recheck RFB. Moved one tire at a time around the truck. No difference. My guess is drive line. Dealer can't figure it out so it's been escalated.

 

[Billy James]

I respectfully disagree, however some may be having different root causes or multiple causes. I put on new Michelins and new wheels, no run out and RFBed them all. Still vibrates. Recheck RFB. Moved one tire at a time around the truck. No difference. My guess is drive line. Dealer can't figure it out so it's been escalated.

Please post results. I think there are a lot of us interested in that one.

 

[mdw3998]

Update....FCA done a buy back on my 2019 Ram for other issues....Ordered another 1500 Ram Laramie and it has zero vibration and its at just over 5000 miles.

I have ongoing issues with vibration, front end pop around corners and on and on. I opened a case through the Chrysler hotline and they told me they don't do buy backs. Could you please let me know the process you used with FCA? Thanks man.

 

[Fidomac]

November build date on my truck Laramie sport 4x2 blackout 22" wheels 3.92 gears. Vibrations at 60 mph as well, seems like the magic number for most people.

My vibration was at 65 miles an hour and Road Force balancing and front end alignment resolved it completely

 

[Billy James]

I have ongoing issues with vibration, front end pop around corners and on and on. I opened a case through the Chrysler hotline and they told me they don't do buy backs. Could you please let me know the process you used with FCA? Thanks man.

There is a warranty fix for the front end pop around corners. Research the TSBs on this forum and find a good Dealership for service. If you find a TSB that applies to your problem, print it out for your Service Department. I had a lot of problems with my truck. 80% of my problems have been resolved by my Service Department....the other 20% I haven't reported to them yet.

 

[mdw3998]

Please post results. I think there are a lot of us interested in that one.

Will do. Today the dealer tech had a good idea. He took out the driveshaft and we went for a ride in 4wd. Didn't fix it, but eliminated it from the list. Perhaps others have a drive shaft issue and can try this as well. I wish I could find a place in New England that does on car tire balancing.

 

[mdw3998]

There is a warranty fix for the front end pop around corners. Research the TSBs on this forum and find a good Dealership for service. If you find a TSB that applies to your problem, print it out for your Service Department. I had a lot of problems with my truck. 80% of my problems have been resolved by my Service Department....the other 20% I haven't reported to them yet.

Thanks. They already changed out the body mount bolts per the TSB. We'll see....

 

[rrbhokies]

Since getting my truck last month, I often feel vibrations at various speeds. Sometimes at low speeds and sometime at higher speeds. Someone suggested the tires may be out of balance. I also read something about the red dots on tires an how they are supposed to initially line up with the valve stem. Here is a picture of my four tires. All but one are unaligned. The top left is by far the worst. That's my driver's side front tire. Based on what you see, should I ask my dealer to road force balance all my tires to see if that resolves some/all of the issues?

 

[Ramit392]

Why not? If it may help have them do it. Not sure but I would say its supposed to be near the stem not dead on but that is just a guess on my part. Hope you get the vibration out and let us know the results when you do.

 

[mdw3998]

Since getting my truck last month, I often feel vibrations at various speeds. Sometimes at low speeds and sometime at higher speeds. Someone suggested the tires may be out of balance. I also read something about the red dots on tires an how they are supposed to initially line up with the valve stem. Here is a picture of my four tires. All but one are unaligned. The top left is by far the worst. That's my driver's side front tire. Based on what you see, should I ask my dealer to road force balance all my tires to see if that resolves some/all of the issues?

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If you just get a regular balance those dots should be lined up with the stems ( if they take the time to do it on a balance - should have been done when new). This way you can tell if the tire is slipping on the wheel, which is unusual unless they lather it up too much when mounting. However, if you get road force balancing done, this may, depending on the tire and wheel, move the dot away from the stem since with RFB they are also taking into account any highspot on the wheel and may rotate the tire on the wheel to account for it. If that happens, after an RFB I would make very small tick mark on the rim lined up with the dots.

 

[rrbhokies]

If you just get a regular balance those dots should be lined up with the stems ( if they take the time to do it on a balance - should have been done when new). This way you can tell if the tire is slipping on the wheel, which is unusual unless they lather it up too much when mounting. However, if you get road force balancing done, this may, depending on the tire and wheel, move the dot away from the stem since with RFB they are also taking into account any highspot on the wheel and may rotate the tire on the wheel to account for it. If that happens, after an RFB I would make very small tick mark on the rim lined up with the dots.

I should point out that this is how they came when I bought the truck. It was built 12/18 and sat on the dealer's lot until the end of June when I bought it. I will schedule an appt to have them balance them. Thanks

 

[Jasonml24]

I’ve had the same issue and it’s not a tire or balance issue or a driveline issue so that’s why it comes and goes. I had my truck in twice and they went through all of the same steps everyone is taking and there is no improvement. It wasn’t till I had it in the 2nd time last fall that the tech found something out. There is a malfunction with the ANC module that he claims FCA is aware of and supposedly they are working on a fix. The way he explained it to me is that when the ANC malfunctions, it is sending a vibration through the speakers and that’s what you are feeling. It’s usually rpm or engine load dependent and that’s why it can vary on your speed. Mine is usually worse between 50-62 at about 1800 rpms. I can go two weeks and it won’t do it or it’ll do it for a few days in a row.

 

[Fidomac]

Since getting my truck last month, I often feel vibrations at various speeds. Sometimes at low speeds and sometime at higher speeds. Someone suggested the tires may be out of balance. I also read something about the red dots on tires an how they are supposed to initially line up with the valve stem. Here is a picture of my four tires. All but one are unaligned. The top left is by far the worst. That's my driver's side front tire. Based on what you see, should I ask my dealer to road force balance all my tires to see if that resolves some/all of the issues?

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Yes... and also check alignment... Mine was out of alignment on Toe in from the factory

 

[mdw3998]

I’ve had the same issue and it’s not a tire or balance issue or a driveline issue so that’s why it comes and goes. I had my truck in twice and they went through all of the same steps everyone is taking and there is no improvement. It wasn’t till I had it in the 2nd time last fall that the tech found something out. There is a malfunction with the ANC module that he claims FCA is aware of and supposedly they are working on a fix. The way he explained it to me is that when the ANC malfunctions, it is sending a vibration through the speakers and that’s what you are feeling. It’s usually rpm or engine load dependent and that’s why it can vary on your speed. Mine is usually worse between 50-62 at about 1800 rpms. I can go two weeks and it won’t do it or it’ll do it for a few days in a row.

So if you unplug the amp that provides ANC it goes away?

 

[Jasonml24]

So if you unplug the amp that provides ANC it goes away?

I’ve never tried it but I’d say it’s worth a shot. I was like everyone else thinking tires, driveline, etc till I had a long conversation with the tech and he told me about the ANC and also the ATTMS. If you read through all these post on this issue guys have changed tires, wheels and whatever else and it’s still there. The fact that it comes and goes makes me think he could be right. At this point mine isn’t hardly doing it at all and I’m at about 7500 miles.

 

[Joshrebel19]

I seem to be having a different vibration problem than everyone on this thread. At around 11K miles I started getting a high frequency vibration at lower speeds when accelerating (25 - 40 MPH). The vibration is unmistakably coming though the gas pedal / floor area - I can feel it in my right foot. After reading this thread I'm going to pay attention to what RPM it's happening at and also try it in Tow/Haul Mode to deactivate the MDS as a test. I will report back...

Did you ever get to the bottom of your vibration? Mine seems the same as yours. Lower speeds upon acceleration. Seems smooth when coasting. I feel it in the gas pedal but also in the steering wheel.