Trucks with and without Anti-Spin

[19llhpb]

A dealership ordering a 2019 Ram without either the anti-spin or locking diff is just stupid. Mind you, where I'm from a truck without 4WD is a blasphemy. For how cheap the option is, every truck should have one or the other.

Completely agree. It amazes me how many dealer lot trucks around here have neither.

 

[fact mechanic]

For someone who makes a turn onto a highway in the rain or snow a couple times a day for about 3-5 months out of the year and goes off road (mining roads and fire trails) maybe 10 times a year, betwen the e-locker and the anti-spin, is the anti-spin going to be a better fit? I mean, the anti-spin will still work on a boat ramp more or less like an e-locker, right? Just a little spin until the clutch engages vs. the e-locker being locked at start? Trying to build a truck to order and wrestling with understanding this.

 

[firecadet613]

For someone who makes a turn onto a highway in the rain or snow a couple times a day for about 3-5 months out of the year and goes off road (mining roads and fire trails) maybe 10 times a year, betwen the e-locker and the anti-spin, is the anti-spin going to be a better fit? I mean, the anti-spin will still work on a boat ramp more or less like an e-locker, right? Just a little spin until the clutch engages vs. the e-locker being locked at start? Trying to build a truck to order and wrestling with understanding this.

Go anti spin. Auto engagement vs manual engagement of the e locker. I never used my e locker on either F150 I had.

 

[alwi228]

I've driving my limited with ani-slip for about 2k miles so far. After driving a friends f150 with an open diff, its chaos when turning right and the roads are freshly wet. This is my first anti slip rear end and I figure this big truck with no weight in the back will break sliding all over the place. I had envisioned myself always leaving in in 4A , but in al sorts of weather, my rear end has been completely predictable and super effective., my vote Is antislip

 

[habfan]

I am going to be a first time truck owner, and will be pulling a boat so this thread is very interesting. Do i really need antispin or will it just be a very nice to have? after researching antispin, I've read a lot of folks who swear by it and a few people who said they don't have it and can do just fine without it. but based on what I have read i am too wondering why dealers would order things like power running boards, but not order antispin. I I'm looking online and see some 19s that have basically that, power running boards, pano moonroof, and 3.92, but no antispin or elocker listed in the options.. Is the traction control , electronic stability control and 4wd auto going to be enough for 5 -6 months of winter here in the prairies of Canada?

 

[19llhpb]

I am going to be a first time truck owner, and will be pulling a boat so this thread is very interesting. Do i really need antispin or will it just be a very nice to have? after researching antispin, I've read a lot of folks who swear by it and a few people who said they don't have it and can do just fine without it. but based on what I have read i am too wondering why dealers would order things like power running boards, but not order antispin. I I'm looking online and see some 19s that have basically that, power running boards, pano moonroof, and 3.92, but no antispin or elocker listed in the options.. Is the traction control , electronic stability control and 4wd auto going to be enough for 5 -6 months of winter here in the prairies of Canada?

Hello, and congrats on getting a truck soon. IMO, I would definitely get the anti-spin especially for where you are located and if you are going to pull anything at all. Also, with the 3:92 there will be more ‘torque’ so to speak at the wheel especially at take off. Once again, IMO, you would not be getting the full benefit of the 3:92 without antispin. Good luck!

 

[JXL118]

Just to offer the opposite perspective, I've never had anti spin or even all wheel drive on my trucks before. It could just be that you can't miss something you've never had but unless you're planning some serious off roading it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me as long as you have 4 wheel drive. I can't imagine there's that many situations anti slip will get you out of that 4 wheel drive wouldn't. Now it might mean using the all wheel drive or even 4-hi more often but the truck will still be capable of handling almost any normal situation. You'll want All wheel drive on in the snow and ice anyways.

Edit: To clarify, if ordering I would add one or the other but if I found one on a lot with everything else i wanted it wouldn't stop me.

 

[Cattail cruncher]

I love to duck hunt, so I deal with all kinds of crazy weather, frozen boat launches, black ice, snow etc. 4 weel drive alone can not do what it can with limited slip.
I would never go with out limited slip, add snow tires and you have a ice eater

 

[Cattail cruncher]

Anti slip kicks in when needed, elocker you need to engage.

 

[Biga]

I've had both open and anti slip rear ends on trucks. It is deffinatly nice to have the limited slip when making a right out into heavy traffic as well as in general driving on wet and snowing roads. Now, I will say in certain instances the rear end can slide out faster with an anti spin rear if you do break traction, Like say when accelerating around a corner. With a open rear end the non driving wheel acts like a crutch and holds the road while the other drives. Much more fun to do donuts with a limited slip truck then an open rear end not that I do that kind of thing anymore.

 

[JXL118]

I love to duck hunt, so I deal with all kinds of crazy weather, frozen boat launches, black ice, snow etc. 4 weel drive alone can not do what it can with limited slip.
I would never go with out limited slip, add snow tires and you have a ice eater

OK yeah frozen boat launches definitely would be one of those situations where I'd want to know i had every possible mechanical advantage before getting into. Hell just the thought of it makes me pucker up.

 

[habfan]

Great responses , how well does traction control help ? I take it that it doesnt make up for antispin. Still wondering why dealers here would order trucks without limited slip if it is beneficial. I suppose cost is a factor, but it’s barely 1% more, I’d rather give up the power running boards for limited slip....

 

[mikemcfarland]

simple question maybe? what is the REAL LIFE difference between - auto 4wd and limited slip?

 

[SpeedyV]

simple question maybe? what is the REAL LIFE difference between - auto 4wd and limited slip?

Opposite ends of the truck

 

[mikemcfarland]

Opposite ends of the truck

OK. speedyV educate me please.. do both not engage the front wheels when slipping?

 

[JXL118]

OK. speedyV educate me please.. do both not engage the front wheels when slipping?

Auto 4 wheel drive (all wheel drive) sends power to the front wheels when the rear wheels start to slip. 4-hi sends power to both the front and rear all the time. An open diff will send all the power to the wheel (left or right on an axel) with the least resistance (the wheel that's spinning with no traction), a limited slip should only allow one wheel to turn at some ratio to the other wheel on the axel ensuring that both rear wheels are always receiving some power, a locker, when engaged, forces both wheels to turn at the same speed and therefore receive the same amount of power but also means that turning is very difficult since the inner wheel has to skip and hop if it has too much traction.

 

[mikemcfarland]

Auto 4 wheel drive (all wheel drive) sends power to the front wheels when the rear wheels start to slip. 4-hi sends power to both the front and rear all the time. An open diff will send all the power to the wheel (left or right on an axel) with the least resistance (the wheel that's spinning with no traction), a limited slip should only allow one wheel to turn at some ratio to the other wheel on the axel ensuring that both rear wheels are always receiving some power, a locker, when engaged, forces both wheels to turn at the same speed and therefore receive the same amount of power but also means that turning is very difficult since the inner wheel has to skip and hop if it has too much traction.

thanks for the education. greatly appreciated

 

[habfan]

simple question maybe? what is the REAL LIFE difference between - auto 4wd and limited slip?

I see by your sig you have a sport, does it have antispin or a locking diff? And if not how do you find driving it in winter?

Other question still remains . Will the traction control and 4x4 be able to make up a little for lsd? I have read that other brands of trucks (f series) don’t have antispin or like Nissan that use active brake limited slip which sounds like traction control

 

[alwi228]

I just took my truck out for a spin on newly wet roads and made a hard acceleration from a right hand turn with and without 4Auto engaged. 2wd with antislip spun, but still moved the truck quickly and traction control limited wheel spin. In 4Auto, nothing slipped, it was glued. This was pretty similar to my experience owning a 2014 wrangler without antislip and in 2wd (would basically stand still on wet roads making a right turn) and my Jeep Grand Cherokee with full-time 4wd which was always glued to the road. In my experience, it goes 2wd without antislip, 2wd with antislip, and the best is 4auto. Ram and GM offer the 4auto with (I think) every trim, and Ford doesn't offer it until the Lariat. Long story short, 4auto is the best, but for those that dont feel comfortable leaving the truck in 4auto all the time, antislip is a must.

 

[alwi228]

Just reread your question about winter driving. My wrangler was either RWD or 4WD, so when the roads were cold, wet and possibly icy, I usually didn't have 4WD engaged and it always made me uneasy on how squirrelly it could get real quick if I came across ice or something. The Grand Cherokee will be the last time I own a vehicle without the option of 4auto. I like the option in the ram of engaging 4A when I feel the slightest need.